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Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight
= 112 lb) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438A1E87.11DFE649@cox.net... > Hi Will, > Well they're not that heavy here, I remember throwing them around > at six years old without hooks, and I'm sure the baling wire would have > cut through my hands if they were heavier than: > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/onslow/AG/hay/tips.html > I guess you're talking about a full sized Jeep truck, because not > even in an old brochure were they silly enough to suggest they carry a > bale of hay: http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/FarmJeep.html > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Will Honea wrote: > > > > Bill, my old man prided himself on consistent 90 pound bales for > > peanut or oat hay - and having spent more than a few days loading hay > > for him before he went to the round bales I'm sure that it was a > > minimum. The ones at the end of the day must have weighed at least > > 250 pounds apiece. If memory serves, 6 bales is a good fit for a > > wrangler with the rear seat out. > > > > On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:34:28 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III > > <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > > > > A bale of hay weighs fifty pounds, can you picture six of these in > > > the back of your car? > > > http://www.nnu.edu/athletics/crossco...hay%20bale.jpg And have you > > > driven down the road with the dust form a feed sake, clogging your nose > > > and eyes? A cazillion times worse than just driving down a dusty road > > > with the rear flap open. > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > > > > Tomes wrote: > > > > > > > > 300 pounds is like 2 people in the back seat. I suspect that he might take > > > > the back seat out and have plenty of room for the feed. > > > > Tomes > > > > -- > > Will Honea |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight
= 112 lb) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438A1E87.11DFE649@cox.net... > Hi Will, > Well they're not that heavy here, I remember throwing them around > at six years old without hooks, and I'm sure the baling wire would have > cut through my hands if they were heavier than: > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/onslow/AG/hay/tips.html > I guess you're talking about a full sized Jeep truck, because not > even in an old brochure were they silly enough to suggest they carry a > bale of hay: http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/FarmJeep.html > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Will Honea wrote: > > > > Bill, my old man prided himself on consistent 90 pound bales for > > peanut or oat hay - and having spent more than a few days loading hay > > for him before he went to the round bales I'm sure that it was a > > minimum. The ones at the end of the day must have weighed at least > > 250 pounds apiece. If memory serves, 6 bales is a good fit for a > > wrangler with the rear seat out. > > > > On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:34:28 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III > > <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > > > > A bale of hay weighs fifty pounds, can you picture six of these in > > > the back of your car? > > > http://www.nnu.edu/athletics/crossco...hay%20bale.jpg And have you > > > driven down the road with the dust form a feed sake, clogging your nose > > > and eyes? A cazillion times worse than just driving down a dusty road > > > with the rear flap open. > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > > > > Tomes wrote: > > > > > > > > 300 pounds is like 2 people in the back seat. I suspect that he might take > > > > the back seat out and have plenty of room for the feed. > > > > Tomes > > > > -- > > Will Honea |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Yours is also called a "long ton". It is equal to 1.016 metric tons. 2000
pounds is a "short ton", equal to 0.907 metric tons. Earle "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:FYJif.17385$Lw5.2520@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > = 112 lb) > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:438A1E87.11DFE649@cox.net... > > Hi Will, > > Well they're not that heavy here, I remember throwing them around > > at six years old without hooks, and I'm sure the baling wire would have > > cut through my hands if they were heavier than: > > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/onslow/AG/hay/tips.html > > I guess you're talking about a full sized Jeep truck, because not > > even in an old brochure were they silly enough to suggest they carry a > > bale of hay: http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/FarmJeep.html > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Will Honea wrote: > > > > > > Bill, my old man prided himself on consistent 90 pound bales for > > > peanut or oat hay - and having spent more than a few days loading hay > > > for him before he went to the round bales I'm sure that it was a > > > minimum. The ones at the end of the day must have weighed at least > > > 250 pounds apiece. If memory serves, 6 bales is a good fit for a > > > wrangler with the rear seat out. > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:34:28 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III > > > <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > A bale of hay weighs fifty pounds, can you picture six of these > in > > > > the back of your car? > > > > http://www.nnu.edu/athletics/crossco...hay%20bale.jpg And have you > > > > driven down the road with the dust form a feed sake, clogging your > nose > > > > and eyes? A cazillion times worse than just driving down a dusty road > > > > with the rear flap open. > > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 300 pounds is like 2 people in the back seat. I suspect that he > might take > > > > > the back seat out and have plenty of room for the feed. > > > > > Tomes > > > > > > -- > > > Will Honea > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Yours is also called a "long ton". It is equal to 1.016 metric tons. 2000
pounds is a "short ton", equal to 0.907 metric tons. Earle "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:FYJif.17385$Lw5.2520@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > = 112 lb) > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:438A1E87.11DFE649@cox.net... > > Hi Will, > > Well they're not that heavy here, I remember throwing them around > > at six years old without hooks, and I'm sure the baling wire would have > > cut through my hands if they were heavier than: > > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/onslow/AG/hay/tips.html > > I guess you're talking about a full sized Jeep truck, because not > > even in an old brochure were they silly enough to suggest they carry a > > bale of hay: http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/FarmJeep.html > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Will Honea wrote: > > > > > > Bill, my old man prided himself on consistent 90 pound bales for > > > peanut or oat hay - and having spent more than a few days loading hay > > > for him before he went to the round bales I'm sure that it was a > > > minimum. The ones at the end of the day must have weighed at least > > > 250 pounds apiece. If memory serves, 6 bales is a good fit for a > > > wrangler with the rear seat out. > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:34:28 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III > > > <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > A bale of hay weighs fifty pounds, can you picture six of these > in > > > > the back of your car? > > > > http://www.nnu.edu/athletics/crossco...hay%20bale.jpg And have you > > > > driven down the road with the dust form a feed sake, clogging your > nose > > > > and eyes? A cazillion times worse than just driving down a dusty road > > > > with the rear flap open. > > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 300 pounds is like 2 people in the back seat. I suspect that he > might take > > > > > the back seat out and have plenty of room for the feed. > > > > > Tomes > > > > > > -- > > > Will Honea > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Yours is also called a "long ton". It is equal to 1.016 metric tons. 2000
pounds is a "short ton", equal to 0.907 metric tons. Earle "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:FYJif.17385$Lw5.2520@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > = 112 lb) > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:438A1E87.11DFE649@cox.net... > > Hi Will, > > Well they're not that heavy here, I remember throwing them around > > at six years old without hooks, and I'm sure the baling wire would have > > cut through my hands if they were heavier than: > > http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/onslow/AG/hay/tips.html > > I guess you're talking about a full sized Jeep truck, because not > > even in an old brochure were they silly enough to suggest they carry a > > bale of hay: http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/FarmJeep.html > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > Will Honea wrote: > > > > > > Bill, my old man prided himself on consistent 90 pound bales for > > > peanut or oat hay - and having spent more than a few days loading hay > > > for him before he went to the round bales I'm sure that it was a > > > minimum. The ones at the end of the day must have weighed at least > > > 250 pounds apiece. If memory serves, 6 bales is a good fit for a > > > wrangler with the rear seat out. > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 22:34:28 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III > > > <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > A bale of hay weighs fifty pounds, can you picture six of these > in > > > > the back of your car? > > > > http://www.nnu.edu/athletics/crossco...hay%20bale.jpg And have you > > > > driven down the road with the dust form a feed sake, clogging your > nose > > > > and eyes? A cazillion times worse than just driving down a dusty road > > > > with the rear flap open. > > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 300 pounds is like 2 people in the back seat. I suspect that he > might take > > > > > the back seat out and have plenty of room for the feed. > > > > > Tomes > > > > > > -- > > > Will Honea > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > = 112 lb) > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > = 112 lb) > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross
truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Dave Milne wrote: > > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > = 112 lb) > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
artics. How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... > Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross > truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at > least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > > = 112 lb) > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
artics. How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... > Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross > truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at > least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > > = 112 lb) > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled
artics. How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... > Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross > truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at > least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred weight > > = 112 lb) > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle (13K-16K
pounds per axle) "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > artics. > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> Dave Milne wrote: >> > >> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred > weight >> > = 112 lb) >> > >> > Dave Milne, Scotland >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle (13K-16K
pounds per axle) "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > artics. > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> Dave Milne wrote: >> > >> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred > weight >> > = 112 lb) >> > >> > Dave Milne, Scotland >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle (13K-16K
pounds per axle) "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > artics. > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> Dave Milne wrote: >> > >> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred > weight >> > = 112 lb) >> > >> > Dave Milne, Scotland >> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Hi Dave,
I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Dave Milne wrote: > > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > artics. > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Hi Dave,
I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Dave Milne wrote: > > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > artics. > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Hi Dave,
I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Dave Milne wrote: > > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > artics. > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Hi Bill,
Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding 80,000 pounds." God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle (13K-16K > pounds per axle) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Hi Bill,
Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding 80,000 pounds." God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle (13K-16K > pounds per axle) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Hi Bill,
Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding 80,000 pounds." God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle (13K-16K > pounds per axle) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
"...there are only about
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less than one out of every 350 trucks on the road." -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane blacktop) "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438CE245.F4E8295E@cox.net... > Hi Bill, > Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page > 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf > "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding > 80,000 pounds." > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Billy Ray wrote: >> >> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle >> (13K-16K >> pounds per axle) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
"...there are only about
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less than one out of every 350 trucks on the road." -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane blacktop) "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438CE245.F4E8295E@cox.net... > Hi Bill, > Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page > 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf > "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding > 80,000 pounds." > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Billy Ray wrote: >> >> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle >> (13K-16K >> pounds per axle) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
"...there are only about
850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less than one out of every 350 trucks on the road." -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane blacktop) "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438CE245.F4E8295E@cox.net... > Hi Bill, > Fortunately you don't have to drive a commercial truck. From page > 44, #7 of: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/20...al_17888_7.pdf > "In most cases, an overweight permit is required for weights exceeding > 80,000 pounds." > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Billy Ray wrote: >> >> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle >> (13K-16K >> pounds per axle) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
They still must have to have a trip permit and pilot cars. With a
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > "...there are only about > > 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by > > Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less > > than one out of every 350 trucks on the road." > > -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper > > The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of > rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane > blacktop) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
They still must have to have a trip permit and pilot cars. With a
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > "...there are only about > > 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by > > Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less > > than one out of every 350 trucks on the road." > > -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper > > The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of > rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane > blacktop) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
They still must have to have a trip permit and pilot cars. With a
lowboy (numerous tires) and a Caterpillar every truck may be that weight. I've had the Highway Patrol close bridges for me to cross. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > "...there are only about > > 850 trucks registered at the maximum weight allowed by > > Michigan law (160,000-164,000 pounds), which is less > > than one out of every 350 trucks on the road." > > -Excerpt from Michigan DOT paper > > The local cops stopped at Michigan registered truck with 154,000 pounds of > rolled steel a few years ago on Sharon Road a few years back (4 lane > blacktop) |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
I spent a couple of hours last winter watching 2 recovery trucks
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough power to spin their wheels and start bouncing. Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@cox.net... > Hi Dave, > I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally > loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start > off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least > three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas: > http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales > in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > > artics. > > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
I spent a couple of hours last winter watching 2 recovery trucks
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough power to spin their wheels and start bouncing. Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@cox.net... > Hi Dave, > I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally > loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start > off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least > three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas: > http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales > in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > > artics. > > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
I spent a couple of hours last winter watching 2 recovery trucks
double-headed trying to recover a 100 ton capacity mobile crane up a steep hill. The crane weighed nearly 70 tons, and both recovery trucks had enough power to spin their wheels and start bouncing. Eventually the police cleared all the traffic on the road so they could have a long run up - they managed to get to all of 15 mph by the time they hit the bottom of the hill, but that was enough to make it. Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:438CDE00.D3C20BCA@cox.net... > Hi Dave, > I've forgotten what my tractor weighed dry. I once accidentally > loaded that 97,000 gross with heavy water, and absolutely couldn't start > off without lifting my front wheels off the ground and bouncing at least > three times with a ten speed used on the flat lands of Texas: > http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg Fortunately there were no scales > in-between. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: > > > > We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled > > artics. > > How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET... > In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle > (13K-16K pounds per axle) > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... >> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled >> artics. >> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> >>> Dave Milne wrote: >>> > >>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred >> weight >>> > = 112 lb) >>> > >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> >> > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET... > In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle > (13K-16K pounds per axle) > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... >> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled >> artics. >> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> >>> Dave Milne wrote: >>> > >>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred >> weight >>> > = 112 lb) >>> > >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> >> > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years.
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET... > In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle > (13K-16K pounds per axle) > > > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... >> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled >> artics. >> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> >> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>> >>> Dave Milne wrote: >>> > >>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred >> weight >>> > = 112 lb) >>> > >>> > Dave Milne, Scotland >>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> >> > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
And guess who's paying. Arizona Charged me seventy five bucks each
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Matthew Macchiarolo wrote: > > Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years. |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
And guess who's paying. Arizona Charged me seventy five bucks each
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Matthew Macchiarolo wrote: > > Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years. |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
And guess who's paying. Arizona Charged me seventy five bucks each
trip to go the hundred miles from the California border to Phoenix. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Matthew Macchiarolo wrote: > > Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years. |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
weight. Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by 12-15 thousand. And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund "Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years. > > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET... >> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle >> (13K-16K pounds per axle) >> >> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message >> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... >>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled >>> artics. >>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? >>> >>> Dave Milne, Scotland >>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >>> >>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred >>> weight >>>> > = 112 lb) >>>> > >>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland >>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
weight. Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by 12-15 thousand. And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund "Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years. > > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET... >> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle >> (13K-16K pounds per axle) >> >> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message >> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... >>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled >>> artics. >>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? >>> >>> Dave Milne, Scotland >>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >>> >>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred >>> weight >>>> > = 112 lb) >>>> > >>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland >>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that
weight. Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by 12-15 thousand. And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund "Matthew Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:8MCdnWl1K7dauRPenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Which would explain why we have to rebuild our highways every three years. > > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:81929$438c9708$4831b233$13064@FUSE.NET... >> In Michigan the limit is 164,000 pounds with proper weight per axle >> (13K-16K pounds per axle) >> >> >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message >> news:Eu0jf.17994$Lw5.8782@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... >>> We have an all up weight of 44 metric tonnes ( 97,000 lb) for 6 axled >>> artics. >>> How much did your trucks + trailers weigh, Bill ? >>> >>> Dave Milne, Scotland >>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >>> >>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>> news:438B6E42.F9D3C0F5@cox.net... >>>> Yep, eighty thousand pounds, or forty tons is what the legal gross >>>> truck load limit, without special permits and pilot cars. The UK at >>>> least in Canada is weird on their gallons, too. >>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Is there really 2000lb in a ton ? We have it at 2240 ( 20 x 1 hundred >>> weight >>>> > = 112 lb) >>>> > >>>> > Dave Milne, Scotland >>>> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Knowing how much I paid in taxes while driving, I'll never believe
that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that > weight. > > Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced > to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by > 12-15 thousand. > > And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing > 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund |
Re: Wrangler - What to buy?
Knowing how much I paid in taxes while driving, I'll never believe
that. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Billy Ray wrote: > > MDOT says only about 5% (1 in 20) trucks in Michigan are running at that > weight. > > Of course, in that same paper they claim that if the weight limit is reduced > to 80,000 pounds the number of trucks on Michigan roads will increase by > 12-15 thousand. > > And finally.... Costs for truck traffic is 40% while they are contributing > 15% in taxes and fees to the Michigan Transportation Fund |
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