Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
11-01-2004, 10:02 PM
#201
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Every service station in Kalifornia was required to carry unleaded
> by '69 when I lost my 105 octane Custom Supreme pumps to it. One of the
> decals I put on my spare tire carrier:
> http://www.----------.com/chevdecal.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
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01 XJ Sport
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Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Every service station in Kalifornia was required to carry unleaded
> by '69 when I lost my 105 octane Custom Supreme pumps to it. One of the
> decals I put on my spare tire carrier:
> http://www.----------.com/chevdecal.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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11-01-2004, 10:02 PM
#202
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Every service station in Kalifornia was required to carry unleaded
> by '69 when I lost my 105 octane Custom Supreme pumps to it. One of the
> decals I put on my spare tire carrier:
> http://www.----------.com/chevdecal.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Every service station in Kalifornia was required to carry unleaded
> by '69 when I lost my 105 octane Custom Supreme pumps to it. One of the
> decals I put on my spare tire carrier:
> http://www.----------.com/chevdecal.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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11-01-2004, 10:16 PM
#203
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
If you still had the trap door on your filler pipe, you'd see the
hole size limited it to the smaller unleaded neck. We still sold leaded
regular and supreme until about ten years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
> was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
> in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
hole size limited it to the smaller unleaded neck. We still sold leaded
regular and supreme until about ten years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
> was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
> in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
11-01-2004, 10:16 PM
#204
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
If you still had the trap door on your filler pipe, you'd see the
hole size limited it to the smaller unleaded neck. We still sold leaded
regular and supreme until about ten years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
> was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
> in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
hole size limited it to the smaller unleaded neck. We still sold leaded
regular and supreme until about ten years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
> was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
> in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
11-01-2004, 10:16 PM
#205
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Posts: n/a
Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
If you still had the trap door on your filler pipe, you'd see the
hole size limited it to the smaller unleaded neck. We still sold leaded
regular and supreme until about ten years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
> was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
> in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
hole size limited it to the smaller unleaded neck. We still sold leaded
regular and supreme until about ten years ago.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twaldron wrote:
>
> I know you ran a CA service station back then, but everywhere else it
> was 1974 for unleaded fuel and cats. What about the non hardened valving
> in the heads in the sixties and early seventies?
11-01-2004, 11:45 PM
#206
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Smells best if you use the fryer oil from a clean and often changed
local fast food place.
Peter Pontbriand proclaimed:
> Ya know, all the unburned hydrocarbons spewing from the tailpipe of a
> Nuttered 258 with no catcon doesn't smell all that great either ... I think
> I prefer the smell of diesel exhaust to be honest.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>>
>>They are heavier than they look too.
>>
>>Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>>
>>Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>me@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>>>you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
>
> of
>
>>>>what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>>What are the reasons?
>
>
>
local fast food place.
Peter Pontbriand proclaimed:
> Ya know, all the unburned hydrocarbons spewing from the tailpipe of a
> Nuttered 258 with no catcon doesn't smell all that great either ... I think
> I prefer the smell of diesel exhaust to be honest.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>>
>>They are heavier than they look too.
>>
>>Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>>
>>Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>me@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>>>you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
>
> of
>
>>>>what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>>What are the reasons?
>
>
>
11-01-2004, 11:45 PM
#207
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Smells best if you use the fryer oil from a clean and often changed
local fast food place.
Peter Pontbriand proclaimed:
> Ya know, all the unburned hydrocarbons spewing from the tailpipe of a
> Nuttered 258 with no catcon doesn't smell all that great either ... I think
> I prefer the smell of diesel exhaust to be honest.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>>
>>They are heavier than they look too.
>>
>>Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>>
>>Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>me@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>>>you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
>
> of
>
>>>>what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>>What are the reasons?
>
>
>
local fast food place.
Peter Pontbriand proclaimed:
> Ya know, all the unburned hydrocarbons spewing from the tailpipe of a
> Nuttered 258 with no catcon doesn't smell all that great either ... I think
> I prefer the smell of diesel exhaust to be honest.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>>
>>They are heavier than they look too.
>>
>>Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>>
>>Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>me@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>>>you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
>
> of
>
>>>>what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>>What are the reasons?
>
>
>
11-01-2004, 11:45 PM
#208
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
Smells best if you use the fryer oil from a clean and often changed
local fast food place.
Peter Pontbriand proclaimed:
> Ya know, all the unburned hydrocarbons spewing from the tailpipe of a
> Nuttered 258 with no catcon doesn't smell all that great either ... I think
> I prefer the smell of diesel exhaust to be honest.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>>
>>They are heavier than they look too.
>>
>>Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>>
>>Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>me@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>>>you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
>
> of
>
>>>>what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>>What are the reasons?
>
>
>
local fast food place.
Peter Pontbriand proclaimed:
> Ya know, all the unburned hydrocarbons spewing from the tailpipe of a
> Nuttered 258 with no catcon doesn't smell all that great either ... I think
> I prefer the smell of diesel exhaust to be honest.
>
> /Peter
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:418401FB.3978BABB@sympatico.ca...
>
>>It has the aerodynamics of a brick and two full axles.
>>
>>They are heavier than they look too.
>>
>>Basically the 6 and 4 get the same mileage, so would a diesel.
>>
>>Diesel also is way too stinky to have in a convertible Jeep.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>>me@privacy.net wrote:
>>
>>>>you are never going to get great mileage out of a Wrangler regardless
>
> of
>
>>>>what engine you put in it, for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>>What are the reasons?
>
>
>
11-01-2004, 11:49 PM
#209
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Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
The great emasculation started in Kalifornia much earlier than
elsewhere, and went nationwide in 1971 with the massive drop in
compression [even without unleaded]. Easy way to remember is that
in 1970 you could drive a 370hp LT1 Camaro off the dealer lot and
hit over 140 mph with quarters in the low teens. In 1971 you were
lucky to drive it off the lot.
twaldron proclaimed:
> You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>> They surely were down here, not just Kalifornia, from '64 on. One
>> of the injection flange nuts from my '67 CJ-5:
>> http://www.----------.com/airInjectionPlug.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>> My brother's '70 Torino (which I also drove through high school) had
>>> no smog
>>> equipment that I can remember, just a vacuum advance on the
>>> distributor...
>>>
>>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled/torinohome.html
>
>
elsewhere, and went nationwide in 1971 with the massive drop in
compression [even without unleaded]. Easy way to remember is that
in 1970 you could drive a 370hp LT1 Camaro off the dealer lot and
hit over 140 mph with quarters in the low teens. In 1971 you were
lucky to drive it off the lot.
twaldron proclaimed:
> You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>> They surely were down here, not just Kalifornia, from '64 on. One
>> of the injection flange nuts from my '67 CJ-5:
>> http://www.----------.com/airInjectionPlug.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>> My brother's '70 Torino (which I also drove through high school) had
>>> no smog
>>> equipment that I can remember, just a vacuum advance on the
>>> distributor...
>>>
>>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled/torinohome.html
>
>
11-01-2004, 11:49 PM
#210
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Posts: n/a
Re: Why no fuel effecient Jeep?
The great emasculation started in Kalifornia much earlier than
elsewhere, and went nationwide in 1971 with the massive drop in
compression [even without unleaded]. Easy way to remember is that
in 1970 you could drive a 370hp LT1 Camaro off the dealer lot and
hit over 140 mph with quarters in the low teens. In 1971 you were
lucky to drive it off the lot.
twaldron proclaimed:
> You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>> They surely were down here, not just Kalifornia, from '64 on. One
>> of the injection flange nuts from my '67 CJ-5:
>> http://www.----------.com/airInjectionPlug.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>> My brother's '70 Torino (which I also drove through high school) had
>>> no smog
>>> equipment that I can remember, just a vacuum advance on the
>>> distributor...
>>>
>>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled/torinohome.html
>
>
elsewhere, and went nationwide in 1971 with the massive drop in
compression [even without unleaded]. Easy way to remember is that
in 1970 you could drive a 370hp LT1 Camaro off the dealer lot and
hit over 140 mph with quarters in the low teens. In 1971 you were
lucky to drive it off the lot.
twaldron proclaimed:
> You mean '74 on?? Unleaded fuel wasn't widely available before 1973.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
>> They surely were down here, not just Kalifornia, from '64 on. One
>> of the injection flange nuts from my '67 CJ-5:
>> http://www.----------.com/airInjectionPlug.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:--------------------
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>> My brother's '70 Torino (which I also drove through high school) had
>>> no smog
>>> equipment that I can remember, just a vacuum advance on the
>>> distributor...
>>>
>>> http://home.triad.rr.com/redsled/torinohome.html
>
>