Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
11-03-2003 | 08:55 PM
#61
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the specs
> printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles. For
> God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be sourced
> through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>
> FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> installation and it completely transform the handling.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the specs
> printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles. For
> God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be sourced
> through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>
> FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> installation and it completely transform the handling.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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11-03-2003 | 10:55 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
for the end user, just the manufacturer.
Chris
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>
> Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>
> > Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
specs
> > printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> > probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
For
> > God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
sourced
> > through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >
> > FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> > brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> > installation and it completely transform the handling.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
for the end user, just the manufacturer.
Chris
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>
> Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>
> > Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
specs
> > printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> > probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
For
> > God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
sourced
> > through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >
> > FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> > brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> > installation and it completely transform the handling.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-03-2003 | 10:55 PM
#63
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
for the end user, just the manufacturer.
Chris
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>
> Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>
> > Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
specs
> > printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> > probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
For
> > God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
sourced
> > through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >
> > FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> > brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> > installation and it completely transform the handling.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
for the end user, just the manufacturer.
Chris
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>
> Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>
> > Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
specs
> > printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> > probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
For
> > God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
sourced
> > through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >
> > FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> > brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> > installation and it completely transform the handling.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-03-2003 | 10:55 PM
#64
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
for the end user, just the manufacturer.
Chris
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>
> Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>
> > Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
specs
> > printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> > probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
For
> > God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
sourced
> > through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >
> > FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> > brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> > installation and it completely transform the handling.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
for the end user, just the manufacturer.
Chris
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>
> Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>
> > Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
specs
> > printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> > probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
For
> > God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
sourced
> > through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >
> > FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> > brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
> > installation and it completely transform the handling.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-03-2003 | 11:08 PM
#65
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
c wrote:
> The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
> blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
> are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
> machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
> for the end user, just the manufacturer.
>
> Chris
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
>
>>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>>
>>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
>
> specs
>
>>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
>>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
>
> For
>
>>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
>
> sourced
>
>>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
>>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
>>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
c wrote:
> The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
> blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
> are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
> machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
> for the end user, just the manufacturer.
>
> Chris
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
>
>>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>>
>>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
>
> specs
>
>>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
>>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
>
> For
>
>>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
>
> sourced
>
>>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
>>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
>>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
11-03-2003 | 11:08 PM
#66
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
c wrote:
> The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
> blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
> are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
> machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
> for the end user, just the manufacturer.
>
> Chris
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
>
>>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>>
>>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
>
> specs
>
>>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
>>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
>
> For
>
>>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
>
> sourced
>
>>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
>>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
>>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
c wrote:
> The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
> blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
> are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
> machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
> for the end user, just the manufacturer.
>
> Chris
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
>
>>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>>
>>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
>
> specs
>
>>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
>>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
>
> For
>
>>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
>
> sourced
>
>>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
>>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
>>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
11-03-2003 | 11:08 PM
#67
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
c wrote:
> The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
> blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
> are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
> machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
> for the end user, just the manufacturer.
>
> Chris
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
>
>>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>>
>>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
>
> specs
>
>>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
>>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
>
> For
>
>>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
>
> sourced
>
>>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
>>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
>>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
c wrote:
> The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims and
> blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If they
> are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much cheaper to
> machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no benefit
> for the end user, just the manufacturer.
>
> Chris
>
> "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
>
>>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
>>
>>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
>
> specs
>
>>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
>>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
>
> For
>
>>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
>
> sourced
>
>>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
>>>
>>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
>>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple, simple
>>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
11-03-2003 | 11:25 PM
#68
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Right, Chris. On the front axle they're far more liable to break and spit
out the side. Having this happen in the rear is one thing, in the front
something else again.
Funny, I tried to get shims at the local NAPA and got blank stares, then
they scratched their heads. Next I went to an alignment shop & they gave me
a blank look. I finally called Avalanche who put me on to Poison Spyder.
Something else, it's a good idea to get shims that are held in place by the
spring pins.
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:PKEpb.719$4D4.447184997@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
>
> c wrote:
>
> > The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims
and
> > blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If
they
> > are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much
cheaper to
> > machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no
benefit
> > for the end user, just the manufacturer.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> >
> >>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
> >
> > specs
> >
> >>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> >>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
> >
> > For
> >
> >>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
> >
> > sourced
> >
> >>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >>>
> >>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> >>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple,
simple
> >>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>03 TJ Rubicon
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
out the side. Having this happen in the rear is one thing, in the front
something else again.
Funny, I tried to get shims at the local NAPA and got blank stares, then
they scratched their heads. Next I went to an alignment shop & they gave me
a blank look. I finally called Avalanche who put me on to Poison Spyder.
Something else, it's a good idea to get shims that are held in place by the
spring pins.
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:PKEpb.719$4D4.447184997@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
>
> c wrote:
>
> > The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims
and
> > blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If
they
> > are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much
cheaper to
> > machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no
benefit
> > for the end user, just the manufacturer.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> >
> >>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
> >
> > specs
> >
> >>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> >>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
> >
> > For
> >
> >>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
> >
> > sourced
> >
> >>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >>>
> >>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> >>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple,
simple
> >>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>03 TJ Rubicon
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-03-2003 | 11:25 PM
#69
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Right, Chris. On the front axle they're far more liable to break and spit
out the side. Having this happen in the rear is one thing, in the front
something else again.
Funny, I tried to get shims at the local NAPA and got blank stares, then
they scratched their heads. Next I went to an alignment shop & they gave me
a blank look. I finally called Avalanche who put me on to Poison Spyder.
Something else, it's a good idea to get shims that are held in place by the
spring pins.
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:PKEpb.719$4D4.447184997@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
>
> c wrote:
>
> > The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims
and
> > blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If
they
> > are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much
cheaper to
> > machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no
benefit
> > for the end user, just the manufacturer.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> >
> >>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
> >
> > specs
> >
> >>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> >>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
> >
> > For
> >
> >>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
> >
> > sourced
> >
> >>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >>>
> >>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> >>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple,
simple
> >>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>03 TJ Rubicon
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
out the side. Having this happen in the rear is one thing, in the front
something else again.
Funny, I tried to get shims at the local NAPA and got blank stares, then
they scratched their heads. Next I went to an alignment shop & they gave me
a blank look. I finally called Avalanche who put me on to Poison Spyder.
Something else, it's a good idea to get shims that are held in place by the
spring pins.
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:PKEpb.719$4D4.447184997@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
>
> c wrote:
>
> > The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims
and
> > blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If
they
> > are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much
cheaper to
> > machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no
benefit
> > for the end user, just the manufacturer.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> >
> >>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
> >
> > specs
> >
> >>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> >>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
> >
> > For
> >
> >>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
> >
> > sourced
> >
> >>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >>>
> >>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> >>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple,
simple
> >>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>03 TJ Rubicon
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
11-03-2003 | 11:25 PM
#70
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Right, Chris. On the front axle they're far more liable to break and spit
out the side. Having this happen in the rear is one thing, in the front
something else again.
Funny, I tried to get shims at the local NAPA and got blank stares, then
they scratched their heads. Next I went to an alignment shop & they gave me
a blank look. I finally called Avalanche who put me on to Poison Spyder.
Something else, it's a good idea to get shims that are held in place by the
spring pins.
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:PKEpb.719$4D4.447184997@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
>
> c wrote:
>
> > The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims
and
> > blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If
they
> > are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much
cheaper to
> > machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no
benefit
> > for the end user, just the manufacturer.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> >
> >>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
> >
> > specs
> >
> >>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> >>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
> >
> > For
> >
> >>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
> >
> > sourced
> >
> >>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >>>
> >>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> >>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple,
simple
> >>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>03 TJ Rubicon
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
out the side. Having this happen in the rear is one thing, in the front
something else again.
Funny, I tried to get shims at the local NAPA and got blank stares, then
they scratched their heads. Next I went to an alignment shop & they gave me
a blank look. I finally called Avalanche who put me on to Poison Spyder.
Something else, it's a good idea to get shims that are held in place by the
spring pins.
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:PKEpb.719$4D4.447184997@newssvr30.news.prodig y.com...
> Ah, thanks Chris. Makes sense.
>
> c wrote:
>
> > The advantage is all in the manufacturing. Most of the aluminum shims
and
> > blocks are cast, so there is no, or very little machining involved. If
they
> > are machined, as in some billet blocks, then the aluminum is much
cheaper to
> > machine and wears out much less tooling per 1000 pieces. There is no
benefit
> > for the end user, just the manufacturer.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:dOCpb.702$sQ.431604800@newssvr30.news.prodigy .com...
> >
> >>Just curious. What would be the advantage to aluminum shims at all?
> >>
> >>Gerald G. McGeorge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Let me jump in here. Get the Jeep up on an alignment rack and have the
> >
> > specs
> >
> >>>printed out. It should have 6-7 degrees of caster in front, and it's
> >>>probably more like 3.5 - 5 depending upon the length of the shackles.
> >
> > For
> >
> >>>God's sake don;'t put aluminum shims up front. Steel shims can be
> >
> > sourced
> >
> >>>through Foothill Offroad or Poison Spyder Customs (check web sites).
> >>>
> >>>FWIW, I have an RE 4.5' kit on my 94 YJ, it needed 2 degree shims which
> >>>brought it to 6.5 degrees. I got them from Poison Spyder. Simple,
simple
> >>>installation and it completely transform the handling.
> >>
> >>--
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>tw
> >>03 TJ Rubicon
> >>01 XJ Sport
> >>
> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> >>-- Dave Barry
> >>
> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp
> >>Function: noun
> >>Date: 1940
> >>
> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> >>World War II.
> >>
> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> >>________________________________________________ ___________
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>