I'm looking for recommendations for a good rear bumper for an '04 TJ, and
am wanting one that has as many of the following features as possible:

1) Swing-away carrier for up to 35" spare tire
2) Hi-lift jack mount
3) Gerry can storage
4) Mount point for CB antenna
5) Storage rack
6) Tow points
7) 2" Receiver hitch

I have found the Bulletproof bumper website, and am considering their
unit, but don't know anyone who actually has their bumper. I like the
supposed ability of this unit to allow close-up spare storage by forgoing
the gerry-can mount, but still allowing the full storage to be used if
needed.

I also don't know if there are other, possibly better, choices with these
features.

Thanks for any input.

PLM

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I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really NEED to carry
gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for one 5-7 day long off road
trip - and I put it in the CJ's and ******'s that are with us. I dont need it for
myself. But that is just me. If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the
tire way up tight. the gas can mounts dont take up much space. Remember with a
storage rack that that raises your center of gravity quickly when used. I run a
Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a little bit off of the
reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank skid. It is well made, it is
strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when it does something is usually loose.

Are you in the PNW? If so, I would sell you mine. I got what I thought I needed and
it turns out it isnt what I really do need. I dont need to carry gas/water outside,
I dont need an outside mount for my hi-lift (it lives on the inside gear rack), I
dont use the antenna mount either.

Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they have out,
but I have some freinds with theirs and they like them a lot.



On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:15:17 -0600, Patrick Mills <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>>I'm looking for recommendations for a good rear bumper for an '04 TJ, and
>>am wanting one that has as many of the following features as possible:
>>
>>1) Swing-away carrier for up to 35" spare tire
>>2) Hi-lift jack mount
>>3) Gerry can storage
>>4) Mount point for CB antenna
>>5) Storage rack
>>6) Tow points
>>7) 2" Receiver hitch
>>
>>I have found the Bulletproof bumper website, and am considering their
>>unit, but don't know anyone who actually has their bumper. I like the
>>supposed ability of this unit to allow close-up spare storage by forgoing
>>the gerry-can mount, but still allowing the full storage to be used if
>>needed.
>>
>>I also don't know if there are other, possibly better, choices with these
>>features.
>>
>>Thanks for any input.
>>
>>PLM

 

I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really NEED to carry
gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for one 5-7 day long off road
trip - and I put it in the CJ's and ******'s that are with us. I dont need it for
myself. But that is just me. If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the
tire way up tight. the gas can mounts dont take up much space. Remember with a
storage rack that that raises your center of gravity quickly when used. I run a
Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a little bit off of the
reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank skid. It is well made, it is
strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when it does something is usually loose.

Are you in the PNW? If so, I would sell you mine. I got what I thought I needed and
it turns out it isnt what I really do need. I dont need to carry gas/water outside,
I dont need an outside mount for my hi-lift (it lives on the inside gear rack), I
dont use the antenna mount either.

Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they have out,
but I have some freinds with theirs and they like them a lot.



On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:15:17 -0600, Patrick Mills <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>>I'm looking for recommendations for a good rear bumper for an '04 TJ, and
>>am wanting one that has as many of the following features as possible:
>>
>>1) Swing-away carrier for up to 35" spare tire
>>2) Hi-lift jack mount
>>3) Gerry can storage
>>4) Mount point for CB antenna
>>5) Storage rack
>>6) Tow points
>>7) 2" Receiver hitch
>>
>>I have found the Bulletproof bumper website, and am considering their
>>unit, but don't know anyone who actually has their bumper. I like the
>>supposed ability of this unit to allow close-up spare storage by forgoing
>>the gerry-can mount, but still allowing the full storage to be used if
>>needed.
>>
>>I also don't know if there are other, possibly better, choices with these
>>features.
>>
>>Thanks for any input.
>>
>>PLM

 

I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really NEED to carry
gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for one 5-7 day long off road
trip - and I put it in the CJ's and ******'s that are with us. I dont need it for
myself. But that is just me. If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the
tire way up tight. the gas can mounts dont take up much space. Remember with a
storage rack that that raises your center of gravity quickly when used. I run a
Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a little bit off of the
reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank skid. It is well made, it is
strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when it does something is usually loose.

Are you in the PNW? If so, I would sell you mine. I got what I thought I needed and
it turns out it isnt what I really do need. I dont need to carry gas/water outside,
I dont need an outside mount for my hi-lift (it lives on the inside gear rack), I
dont use the antenna mount either.

Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they have out,
but I have some freinds with theirs and they like them a lot.



On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:15:17 -0600, Patrick Mills <plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

>>I'm looking for recommendations for a good rear bumper for an '04 TJ, and
>>am wanting one that has as many of the following features as possible:
>>
>>1) Swing-away carrier for up to 35" spare tire
>>2) Hi-lift jack mount
>>3) Gerry can storage
>>4) Mount point for CB antenna
>>5) Storage rack
>>6) Tow points
>>7) 2" Receiver hitch
>>
>>I have found the Bulletproof bumper website, and am considering their
>>unit, but don't know anyone who actually has their bumper. I like the
>>supposed ability of this unit to allow close-up spare storage by forgoing
>>the gerry-can mount, but still allowing the full storage to be used if
>>needed.
>>
>>I also don't know if there are other, possibly better, choices with these
>>features.
>>
>>Thanks for any input.
>>
>>PLM

 

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:52:23 -0800, jbjeep wrote:

Thanks for your input, and Happy New Year! Comments inline...

> I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really
> NEED to carry gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for
> one 5-7 day long off road trip

Hmmm - that's what *I'm* planning on, too. We may be by ourselves for a
couple of days at a time, and I figured the water and gas would be handy
to have on-board, but I suppose there are other ways...

> If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the tire way up tight.
> the gas can mounts dont take up much space.

Yes - that's one of the features I liked, as well. In fact, this was also
one of the reasons I thought that my infrequent need to carry Gerry cans
was not a big deal with this bumper, since the tire can be mounted back in
close when you don't have the cans in place. What's your opinion about
this? I'm curious why you see the bumper as such a poor fit for your
needs, if there is not a disadvantage to not actually carrying the Gerry
cans. Do you object to the appearance without Gerry cans? Is it too
heavy?

> Remember with a storage rack that that raises your center of gravity
> quickly when used.

Yep - the outfitter I'm having build up the jeep cautioned against this
option for this very reason. However, I believe for my own type of use
that it won't be a big issue, and can run without the rack except for
those times it is really needed.

> I run a Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a
> little bit off of the reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank
> skid. It is well made, it is strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when
> it does something is usually loose.

The vehicle will be a Rubicon (want to buy a new Wrangler X? Can't believe
I'm already selling it...) with the factory skid plate. I don't know if
this one would have the same problem or not... If I decide to do the BP
bumper, I'll make sure and warn the installer to watch out for this.

> Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they
> have out, but I have some friends with theirs and they like them a lot.

Thanks for that tip. I had briefly seen their web page, but hadn't really
looked at their products. Seems like a viable alternative to the BP
bumper, and I'll definitely check them out. The lighting options for the
YB bumper are interesting...

Thanks again for your post - happy new year.

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:52:23 -0800, jbjeep wrote:

Thanks for your input, and Happy New Year! Comments inline...

> I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really
> NEED to carry gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for
> one 5-7 day long off road trip

Hmmm - that's what *I'm* planning on, too. We may be by ourselves for a
couple of days at a time, and I figured the water and gas would be handy
to have on-board, but I suppose there are other ways...

> If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the tire way up tight.
> the gas can mounts dont take up much space.

Yes - that's one of the features I liked, as well. In fact, this was also
one of the reasons I thought that my infrequent need to carry Gerry cans
was not a big deal with this bumper, since the tire can be mounted back in
close when you don't have the cans in place. What's your opinion about
this? I'm curious why you see the bumper as such a poor fit for your
needs, if there is not a disadvantage to not actually carrying the Gerry
cans. Do you object to the appearance without Gerry cans? Is it too
heavy?

> Remember with a storage rack that that raises your center of gravity
> quickly when used.

Yep - the outfitter I'm having build up the jeep cautioned against this
option for this very reason. However, I believe for my own type of use
that it won't be a big issue, and can run without the rack except for
those times it is really needed.

> I run a Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a
> little bit off of the reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank
> skid. It is well made, it is strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when
> it does something is usually loose.

The vehicle will be a Rubicon (want to buy a new Wrangler X? Can't believe
I'm already selling it...) with the factory skid plate. I don't know if
this one would have the same problem or not... If I decide to do the BP
bumper, I'll make sure and warn the installer to watch out for this.

> Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they
> have out, but I have some friends with theirs and they like them a lot.

Thanks for that tip. I had briefly seen their web page, but hadn't really
looked at their products. Seems like a viable alternative to the BP
bumper, and I'll definitely check them out. The lighting options for the
YB bumper are interesting...

Thanks again for your post - happy new year.

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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:52:23 -0800, jbjeep wrote:

Thanks for your input, and Happy New Year! Comments inline...

> I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really
> NEED to carry gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for
> one 5-7 day long off road trip

Hmmm - that's what *I'm* planning on, too. We may be by ourselves for a
couple of days at a time, and I figured the water and gas would be handy
to have on-board, but I suppose there are other ways...

> If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the tire way up tight.
> the gas can mounts dont take up much space.

Yes - that's one of the features I liked, as well. In fact, this was also
one of the reasons I thought that my infrequent need to carry Gerry cans
was not a big deal with this bumper, since the tire can be mounted back in
close when you don't have the cans in place. What's your opinion about
this? I'm curious why you see the bumper as such a poor fit for your
needs, if there is not a disadvantage to not actually carrying the Gerry
cans. Do you object to the appearance without Gerry cans? Is it too
heavy?

> Remember with a storage rack that that raises your center of gravity
> quickly when used.

Yep - the outfitter I'm having build up the jeep cautioned against this
option for this very reason. However, I believe for my own type of use
that it won't be a big issue, and can run without the rack except for
those times it is really needed.

> I run a Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a
> little bit off of the reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank
> skid. It is well made, it is strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when
> it does something is usually loose.

The vehicle will be a Rubicon (want to buy a new Wrangler X? Can't believe
I'm already selling it...) with the factory skid plate. I don't know if
this one would have the same problem or not... If I decide to do the BP
bumper, I'll make sure and warn the installer to watch out for this.

> Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they
> have out, but I have some friends with theirs and they like them a lot.

Thanks for that tip. I had briefly seen their web page, but hadn't really
looked at their products. Seems like a viable alternative to the BP
bumper, and I'll definitely check them out. The lighting options for the
YB bumper are interesting...

Thanks again for your post - happy new year.

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I've also been thinking of a BP bumper such as the one shown here:
http://www.bulletproofmfg.com/ricochet.htm

I also got some information on Garvin's product:
http://www.garvin-industries.com/wrangler_bsa.htm

I like BP's warranty not to mention that I like buying from smaller
companies, but I like that Garvin's receiver is welded inside the
bumper itself (vs. on the bottom). Also, Garvin's is much less
expensive than BP.

Does anyone have firsthand experience with Garvin's?

Thanks,

Trevor


On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 09:13:12 -0600, Patrick Mills
<plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:52:23 -0800, jbjeep wrote:
>
>Thanks for your input, and Happy New Year! Comments inline...
>
>> I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really
>> NEED to carry gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for
>> one 5-7 day long off road trip
>
>Hmmm - that's what *I'm* planning on, too. We may be by ourselves for a
>couple of days at a time, and I figured the water and gas would be handy
>to have on-board, but I suppose there are other ways...
>
>> If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the tire way up tight.
>> the gas can mounts dont take up much space.
>
>Yes - that's one of the features I liked, as well. In fact, this was also
>one of the reasons I thought that my infrequent need to carry Gerry cans
>was not a big deal with this bumper, since the tire can be mounted back in
>close when you don't have the cans in place. What's your opinion about
>this? I'm curious why you see the bumper as such a poor fit for your
>needs, if there is not a disadvantage to not actually carrying the Gerry
>cans. Do you object to the appearance without Gerry cans? Is it too
>heavy?
>
>> Remember with a storage rack that that raises your center of gravity
>> quickly when used.
>
>Yep - the outfitter I'm having build up the jeep cautioned against this
>option for this very reason. However, I believe for my own type of use
>that it won't be a big issue, and can run without the rack except for
>those times it is really needed.
>
>> I run a Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a
>> little bit off of the reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank
>> skid. It is well made, it is strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when
>> it does something is usually loose.
>
>The vehicle will be a Rubicon (want to buy a new Wrangler X? Can't believe
>I'm already selling it...) with the factory skid plate. I don't know if
>this one would have the same problem or not... If I decide to do the BP
>bumper, I'll make sure and warn the installer to watch out for this.
>
>> Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they
>> have out, but I have some friends with theirs and they like them a lot.
>
>Thanks for that tip. I had briefly seen their web page, but hadn't really
>looked at their products. Seems like a viable alternative to the BP
>bumper, and I'll definitely check them out. The lighting options for the
>YB bumper are interesting...
>
>Thanks again for your post - happy new year.

 

I've also been thinking of a BP bumper such as the one shown here:
http://www.bulletproofmfg.com/ricochet.htm

I also got some information on Garvin's product:
http://www.garvin-industries.com/wrangler_bsa.htm

I like BP's warranty not to mention that I like buying from smaller
companies, but I like that Garvin's receiver is welded inside the
bumper itself (vs. on the bottom). Also, Garvin's is much less
expensive than BP.

Does anyone have firsthand experience with Garvin's?

Thanks,

Trevor


On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 09:13:12 -0600, Patrick Mills
<plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:52:23 -0800, jbjeep wrote:
>
>Thanks for your input, and Happy New Year! Comments inline...
>
>> I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really
>> NEED to carry gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for
>> one 5-7 day long off road trip
>
>Hmmm - that's what *I'm* planning on, too. We may be by ourselves for a
>couple of days at a time, and I figured the water and gas would be handy
>to have on-board, but I suppose there are other ways...
>
>> If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the tire way up tight.
>> the gas can mounts dont take up much space.
>
>Yes - that's one of the features I liked, as well. In fact, this was also
>one of the reasons I thought that my infrequent need to carry Gerry cans
>was not a big deal with this bumper, since the tire can be mounted back in
>close when you don't have the cans in place. What's your opinion about
>this? I'm curious why you see the bumper as such a poor fit for your
>needs, if there is not a disadvantage to not actually carrying the Gerry
>cans. Do you object to the appearance without Gerry cans? Is it too
>heavy?
>
>> Remember with a storage rack that that raises your center of gravity
>> quickly when used.
>
>Yep - the outfitter I'm having build up the jeep cautioned against this
>option for this very reason. However, I believe for my own type of use
>that it won't be a big issue, and can run without the rack except for
>those times it is really needed.
>
>> I run a Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a
>> little bit off of the reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank
>> skid. It is well made, it is strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when
>> it does something is usually loose.
>
>The vehicle will be a Rubicon (want to buy a new Wrangler X? Can't believe
>I'm already selling it...) with the factory skid plate. I don't know if
>this one would have the same problem or not... If I decide to do the BP
>bumper, I'll make sure and warn the installer to watch out for this.
>
>> Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they
>> have out, but I have some friends with theirs and they like them a lot.
>
>Thanks for that tip. I had briefly seen their web page, but hadn't really
>looked at their products. Seems like a viable alternative to the BP
>bumper, and I'll definitely check them out. The lighting options for the
>YB bumper are interesting...
>
>Thanks again for your post - happy new year.

 

I've also been thinking of a BP bumper such as the one shown here:
http://www.bulletproofmfg.com/ricochet.htm

I also got some information on Garvin's product:
http://www.garvin-industries.com/wrangler_bsa.htm

I like BP's warranty not to mention that I like buying from smaller
companies, but I like that Garvin's receiver is welded inside the
bumper itself (vs. on the bottom). Also, Garvin's is much less
expensive than BP.

Does anyone have firsthand experience with Garvin's?

Thanks,

Trevor


On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 09:13:12 -0600, Patrick Mills
<plm1954_R_E_M_O_V_E@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:52:23 -0800, jbjeep wrote:
>
>Thanks for your input, and Happy New Year! Comments inline...
>
>> I have the BP bumper setup. One thing I caution you on, do you really
>> NEED to carry gas? I found that I use it about once every 2 years for
>> one 5-7 day long off road trip
>
>Hmmm - that's what *I'm* planning on, too. We may be by ourselves for a
>couple of days at a time, and I figured the water and gas would be handy
>to have on-board, but I suppose there are other ways...
>
>> If you dont have the hi-lift mount you can tuck the tire way up tight.
>> the gas can mounts dont take up much space.
>
>Yes - that's one of the features I liked, as well. In fact, this was also
>one of the reasons I thought that my infrequent need to carry Gerry cans
>was not a big deal with this bumper, since the tire can be mounted back in
>close when you don't have the cans in place. What's your opinion about
>this? I'm curious why you see the bumper as such a poor fit for your
>needs, if there is not a disadvantage to not actually carrying the Gerry
>cans. Do you object to the appearance without Gerry cans? Is it too
>heavy?
>
>> Remember with a storage rack that that raises your center of gravity
>> quickly when used.
>
>Yep - the outfitter I'm having build up the jeep cautioned against this
>option for this very reason. However, I believe for my own type of use
>that it won't be a big issue, and can run without the rack except for
>those times it is really needed.
>
>> I run a Kilby gas tank skid and I had the shop who installed it cut a
>> little bit off of the reciever hitch so that it didnt hit the gas tank
>> skid. It is well made, it is strong, and it doesnt rattle much - when
>> it does something is usually loose.
>
>The vehicle will be a Rubicon (want to buy a new Wrangler X? Can't believe
>I'm already selling it...) with the factory skid plate. I don't know if
>this one would have the same problem or not... If I decide to do the BP
>bumper, I'll make sure and warn the installer to watch out for this.
>
>> Also, look at Younger Brothers bumpers. I am not sure what exactly they
>> have out, but I have some friends with theirs and they like them a lot.
>
>Thanks for that tip. I had briefly seen their web page, but hadn't really
>looked at their products. Seems like a viable alternative to the BP
>bumper, and I'll definitely check them out. The lighting options for the
>YB bumper are interesting...
>
>Thanks again for your post - happy new year.