what exactly happened here?
#41
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Re: what exactly happened here? FYI Only
Today Pink Freud commented courteously on the subject at hand
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:19:31 -0400, Josh Piela wrote:
>
> FYI Only
>
>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to
>> understand that
>> Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> Not quite. Not person, but persons. Many. From many
> different groups.
>
> And because of things like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Josh,
> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses
> you find in
> their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls
> that would spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml USENET
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html PROBE
> ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> The observer.
>
Several people, including yours truly, have tried to get it
back on track but some folks still want to feed the troll, the
same troll that lights down in a NG until people stop
replying, then he quickly tires and moves on. Just plonk the
fool and move on with your life, it'll help everyone, even the
mentally ill person in question.
--
ATM, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:19:31 -0400, Josh Piela wrote:
>
> FYI Only
>
>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to
>> understand that
>> Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> Not quite. Not person, but persons. Many. From many
> different groups.
>
> And because of things like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Josh,
> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses
> you find in
> their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls
> that would spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml USENET
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html PROBE
> ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> The observer.
>
Several people, including yours truly, have tried to get it
back on track but some folks still want to feed the troll, the
same troll that lights down in a NG until people stop
replying, then he quickly tires and moves on. Just plonk the
fool and move on with your life, it'll help everyone, even the
mentally ill person in question.
--
ATM, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
#42
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Re: what exactly happened here? FYI Only
Today Pink Freud commented courteously on the subject at hand
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:19:31 -0400, Josh Piela wrote:
>
> FYI Only
>
>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to
>> understand that
>> Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> Not quite. Not person, but persons. Many. From many
> different groups.
>
> And because of things like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Josh,
> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses
> you find in
> their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls
> that would spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml USENET
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html PROBE
> ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> The observer.
>
Several people, including yours truly, have tried to get it
back on track but some folks still want to feed the troll, the
same troll that lights down in a NG until people stop
replying, then he quickly tires and moves on. Just plonk the
fool and move on with your life, it'll help everyone, even the
mentally ill person in question.
--
ATM, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:19:31 -0400, Josh Piela wrote:
>
> FYI Only
>
>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to
>> understand that
>> Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> Not quite. Not person, but persons. Many. From many
> different groups.
>
> And because of things like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Josh,
> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses
> you find in
> their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls
> that would spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml USENET
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html PROBE
> ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> The observer.
>
Several people, including yours truly, have tried to get it
back on track but some folks still want to feed the troll, the
same troll that lights down in a NG until people stop
replying, then he quickly tires and moves on. Just plonk the
fool and move on with your life, it'll help everyone, even the
mentally ill person in question.
--
ATM, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
#43
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Re: what exactly happened here? FYI Only
Today Pink Freud commented courteously on the subject at hand
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:19:31 -0400, Josh Piela wrote:
>
> FYI Only
>
>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to
>> understand that
>> Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> Not quite. Not person, but persons. Many. From many
> different groups.
>
> And because of things like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Josh,
> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses
> you find in
> their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls
> that would spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml USENET
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html PROBE
> ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> The observer.
>
Several people, including yours truly, have tried to get it
back on track but some folks still want to feed the troll, the
same troll that lights down in a NG until people stop
replying, then he quickly tires and moves on. Just plonk the
fool and move on with your life, it'll help everyone, even the
mentally ill person in question.
--
ATM, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:19:31 -0400, Josh Piela wrote:
>
> FYI Only
>
>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to
>> understand that
>> Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct??
>
> Not quite. Not person, but persons. Many. From many
> different groups.
>
> And because of things like this:
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hi Josh,
> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses
> you find in
> their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls
> that would spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml USENET
> COMPLAINTS -
> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html PROBE
> ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> The observer.
>
Several people, including yours truly, have tried to get it
back on track but some folks still want to feed the troll, the
same troll that lights down in a NG until people stop
replying, then he quickly tires and moves on. Just plonk the
fool and move on with your life, it'll help everyone, even the
mentally ill person in question.
--
ATM, aka Jerry
"Never complain, never explain" - Henry Ford II
#44
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Re: what exactly happened here?
I am in agreement with Nathan and Kate. Ignore trolls and they vanish.
They have no power if no one acknowledges them.
I like to call this the "Eeyore Effect". Trolls like to make others
feel small, especially if they're smaller than the target, anyway.
That makes the troll look big --he thinks.
Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
-JD
They have no power if no one acknowledges them.
I like to call this the "Eeyore Effect". Trolls like to make others
feel small, especially if they're smaller than the target, anyway.
That makes the troll look big --he thinks.
Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
-JD
#45
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Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
I am in agreement with Nathan and Kate. Ignore trolls and they vanish.
They have no power if no one acknowledges them.
I like to call this the "Eeyore Effect". Trolls like to make others
feel small, especially if they're smaller than the target, anyway.
That makes the troll look big --he thinks.
Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
-JD
They have no power if no one acknowledges them.
I like to call this the "Eeyore Effect". Trolls like to make others
feel small, especially if they're smaller than the target, anyway.
That makes the troll look big --he thinks.
Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
-JD
#46
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Re: what exactly happened here?
I am in agreement with Nathan and Kate. Ignore trolls and they vanish.
They have no power if no one acknowledges them.
I like to call this the "Eeyore Effect". Trolls like to make others
feel small, especially if they're smaller than the target, anyway.
That makes the troll look big --he thinks.
Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
-JD
They have no power if no one acknowledges them.
I like to call this the "Eeyore Effect". Trolls like to make others
feel small, especially if they're smaller than the target, anyway.
That makes the troll look big --he thinks.
Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and he
has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint. It
has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate is the
ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist on
------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's example.
-JD
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote
: Since Bill does not appear to post on any other newsgroup, probably
: directing your questions to another one might be helpful too.
Bret, this was sarcasm... right?
Bill has dragged these anonymous anarchists in here with him from the other
groups.
They didn't start here.
Kate
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote
: Since Bill does not appear to post on any other newsgroup, probably
: directing your questions to another one might be helpful too.
Bret, this was sarcasm... right?
Bill has dragged these anonymous anarchists in here with him from the other
groups.
They didn't start here.
Kate
#49
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote
: Since Bill does not appear to post on any other newsgroup, probably
: directing your questions to another one might be helpful too.
Bret, this was sarcasm... right?
Bill has dragged these anonymous anarchists in here with him from the other
groups.
They didn't start here.
Kate
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Re: what exactly happened here?
Just what makes you so goddamn proud of pissing off people like this and
then having them follow you from group to group posting their ilk and
annoying everyone in all of the groups involved?
Honestly Bill, you might try considering the consequences of your actions.
Eventually even those that respect your knowledge and sense of humor may
even turn the other way because of your 'fan club'.
People have a low tolerance for --------, and that's what this is. I know
that I am certainly sick to death of opening the group to see all of the
posts about your supposed affection for barnyard animals.
I suppose that this being the case I could leave, but unlike some people I
am not normally one to be chased off by undesirables, I like to be the one
to do the chasing.
So, how about you try doing whatever it is you have to do to get these guys
to leave you alone? Next time don't antagonize them.
This all falls back on YOUR shoulders, you have to be the one to deal with
it.
It's time for you to clean up the mess that you tracked into the house Bill.
Damn kids, dress them all up, wash behind their ears and they STILL
embarrass you in front of rich Aunt Tillie.
Kate
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:444B2884.548B3BFA@***.net...
: Hi Earle,
: I must be at least irritating the vermin, as they keep changing
: their addresses. There's no doubt I've killed a couple of their favorite
: user names at:
: dstblk-request@nym.alias.net
: remailer@cypherpunks.to
: block+src@anon.lcs.mit.edu
: deuxpi-admin@deuxpi.ca
: mix@remailer.metacolo.com
: admin@pseudo.borked.net
: thrasher_admin@reece.net.au
: mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org
: legalnotice@demon.net
: anon@ecn.org
: abuse@hastio.org
: abuse@remailer.metacolo.com
:
: God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Earle Horton wrote:
: >
: > Bill,
: >
: > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As far
as
: > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
with
: > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
: > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
have
: > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
: >
: > Any clue what to do about them?
: >
: > Earle
then having them follow you from group to group posting their ilk and
annoying everyone in all of the groups involved?
Honestly Bill, you might try considering the consequences of your actions.
Eventually even those that respect your knowledge and sense of humor may
even turn the other way because of your 'fan club'.
People have a low tolerance for --------, and that's what this is. I know
that I am certainly sick to death of opening the group to see all of the
posts about your supposed affection for barnyard animals.
I suppose that this being the case I could leave, but unlike some people I
am not normally one to be chased off by undesirables, I like to be the one
to do the chasing.
So, how about you try doing whatever it is you have to do to get these guys
to leave you alone? Next time don't antagonize them.
This all falls back on YOUR shoulders, you have to be the one to deal with
it.
It's time for you to clean up the mess that you tracked into the house Bill.
Damn kids, dress them all up, wash behind their ears and they STILL
embarrass you in front of rich Aunt Tillie.
Kate
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:444B2884.548B3BFA@***.net...
: Hi Earle,
: I must be at least irritating the vermin, as they keep changing
: their addresses. There's no doubt I've killed a couple of their favorite
: user names at:
: dstblk-request@nym.alias.net
: remailer@cypherpunks.to
: block+src@anon.lcs.mit.edu
: deuxpi-admin@deuxpi.ca
: mix@remailer.metacolo.com
: admin@pseudo.borked.net
: thrasher_admin@reece.net.au
: mixmaster@remailer.paranoici.org
: legalnotice@demon.net
: anon@ecn.org
: abuse@hastio.org
: abuse@remailer.metacolo.com
:
: God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Earle Horton wrote:
: >
: > Bill,
: >
: > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As far
as
: > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
with
: > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
: > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
have
: > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
: >
: > Any clue what to do about them?
: >
: > Earle