Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
08-24-2004 | 03:57 PM
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Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
forward and not reverse.
Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
importantly, for Jeeps?
Bob
one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
forward and not reverse.
Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
importantly, for Jeeps?
Bob
08-24-2004 | 04:28 PM
#2
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
Generally that is correct 'they say'.
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004 | 04:28 PM
#3
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
Generally that is correct 'they say'.
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004 | 04:28 PM
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
Generally that is correct 'they say'.
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004 | 04:28 PM
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
Generally that is correct 'they say'.
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
reverse, etc...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004 | 05:28 PM
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
just to add a little about Landys:
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
08-24-2004 | 05:28 PM
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
just to add a little about Landys:
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
08-24-2004 | 05:28 PM
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
just to add a little about Landys:
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
08-24-2004 | 05:28 PM
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
just to add a little about Landys:
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
Rovers
have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
that
was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
the Dana 60).
Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
problems with them.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>
> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>
> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
> reverse, etc...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> > forward and not reverse.
> >
> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> > importantly, for Jeeps?
> >
> > Bob
08-24-2004 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
While on the Landy topic this is a cool video that I ran across the other
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>