Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
05-07-2004 | 11:06 PM
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
On 7 May 2004 21:00:22 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote:
>In <409BD2E4.182E18BC@sympatico.ca> Mike Romain wrote:
>> We undid the shocks and still couldn't get the springs out. We are
>> both over 200 lb and standing on the brake drum wouldn't come close.
>>
>> Then we undid the anti sway bar and the axle dropped right down so the
>> spring fell out.
>>
>> The shock is not the limiting factor.
>
>That doesn't prove anything, except that without the shocks in place,
>the swaybar does become the limiting factor in axle droop. When you
>removed the shocks, was the axle hanging at that point (i.e. frame on
>stands) and if so, was there any extension left?
>
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My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
can find it now though. :(
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote:
>In <409BD2E4.182E18BC@sympatico.ca> Mike Romain wrote:
>> We undid the shocks and still couldn't get the springs out. We are
>> both over 200 lb and standing on the brake drum wouldn't come close.
>>
>> Then we undid the anti sway bar and the axle dropped right down so the
>> spring fell out.
>>
>> The shock is not the limiting factor.
>
>That doesn't prove anything, except that without the shocks in place,
>the swaybar does become the limiting factor in axle droop. When you
>removed the shocks, was the axle hanging at that point (i.e. frame on
>stands) and if so, was there any extension left?
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
can find it now though. :(
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-07-2004 | 11:06 PM
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
On 7 May 2004 21:00:22 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote:
>In <409BD2E4.182E18BC@sympatico.ca> Mike Romain wrote:
>> We undid the shocks and still couldn't get the springs out. We are
>> both over 200 lb and standing on the brake drum wouldn't come close.
>>
>> Then we undid the anti sway bar and the axle dropped right down so the
>> spring fell out.
>>
>> The shock is not the limiting factor.
>
>That doesn't prove anything, except that without the shocks in place,
>the swaybar does become the limiting factor in axle droop. When you
>removed the shocks, was the axle hanging at that point (i.e. frame on
>stands) and if so, was there any extension left?
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
can find it now though. :(
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote:
>In <409BD2E4.182E18BC@sympatico.ca> Mike Romain wrote:
>> We undid the shocks and still couldn't get the springs out. We are
>> both over 200 lb and standing on the brake drum wouldn't come close.
>>
>> Then we undid the anti sway bar and the axle dropped right down so the
>> spring fell out.
>>
>> The shock is not the limiting factor.
>
>That doesn't prove anything, except that without the shocks in place,
>the swaybar does become the limiting factor in axle droop. When you
>removed the shocks, was the axle hanging at that point (i.e. frame on
>stands) and if so, was there any extension left?
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
can find it now though. :(
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-07-2004 | 11:06 PM
#53
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
On 7 May 2004 21:00:22 GMT, Del Rawlins
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote:
>In <409BD2E4.182E18BC@sympatico.ca> Mike Romain wrote:
>> We undid the shocks and still couldn't get the springs out. We are
>> both over 200 lb and standing on the brake drum wouldn't come close.
>>
>> Then we undid the anti sway bar and the axle dropped right down so the
>> spring fell out.
>>
>> The shock is not the limiting factor.
>
>That doesn't prove anything, except that without the shocks in place,
>the swaybar does become the limiting factor in axle droop. When you
>removed the shocks, was the axle hanging at that point (i.e. frame on
>stands) and if so, was there any extension left?
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
can find it now though. :(
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
<del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote:
>In <409BD2E4.182E18BC@sympatico.ca> Mike Romain wrote:
>> We undid the shocks and still couldn't get the springs out. We are
>> both over 200 lb and standing on the brake drum wouldn't come close.
>>
>> Then we undid the anti sway bar and the axle dropped right down so the
>> spring fell out.
>>
>> The shock is not the limiting factor.
>
>That doesn't prove anything, except that without the shocks in place,
>the swaybar does become the limiting factor in axle droop. When you
>removed the shocks, was the axle hanging at that point (i.e. frame on
>stands) and if so, was there any extension left?
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
can find it now though. :(
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-07-2004 | 11:37 PM
#54
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-07-2004 | 11:37 PM
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-07-2004 | 11:37 PM
#56
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-07-2004 | 11:37 PM
#57
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
straps:
http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"David C. Moller" wrote:
>
> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
> can find it now though. :(
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-08-2004 | 12:00 AM
#58
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
I dunno Bill... if you follow this thread, you'll see that Mike
removed both rear shocks, stood on one side of the brake drum, and
still couldn't get the spring out. So it wasn't the shock (in stock
configuration anyway) that was the limiting factor. He had to
disconnect the swaybar before he could remove the coil. With my ~2"
coil spacer lift, I'm using the Edelbrock shocks commonly used for a
3" lift.
Dave
On Fri, 07 May 2004 19:37:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
>course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
>position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
>directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
>straps:
>http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
>> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
>> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
>> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
>> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
>> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
>> can find it now though. :(
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
removed both rear shocks, stood on one side of the brake drum, and
still couldn't get the spring out. So it wasn't the shock (in stock
configuration anyway) that was the limiting factor. He had to
disconnect the swaybar before he could remove the coil. With my ~2"
coil spacer lift, I'm using the Edelbrock shocks commonly used for a
3" lift.
Dave
On Fri, 07 May 2004 19:37:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
>course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
>position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
>directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
>straps:
>http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
>> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
>> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
>> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
>> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
>> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
>> can find it now though. :(
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-08-2004 | 12:00 AM
#59
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
I dunno Bill... if you follow this thread, you'll see that Mike
removed both rear shocks, stood on one side of the brake drum, and
still couldn't get the spring out. So it wasn't the shock (in stock
configuration anyway) that was the limiting factor. He had to
disconnect the swaybar before he could remove the coil. With my ~2"
coil spacer lift, I'm using the Edelbrock shocks commonly used for a
3" lift.
Dave
On Fri, 07 May 2004 19:37:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
>course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
>position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
>directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
>straps:
>http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
>> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
>> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
>> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
>> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
>> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
>> can find it now though. :(
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
removed both rear shocks, stood on one side of the brake drum, and
still couldn't get the spring out. So it wasn't the shock (in stock
configuration anyway) that was the limiting factor. He had to
disconnect the swaybar before he could remove the coil. With my ~2"
coil spacer lift, I'm using the Edelbrock shocks commonly used for a
3" lift.
Dave
On Fri, 07 May 2004 19:37:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
>course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
>position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
>directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
>straps:
>http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
>> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
>> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
>> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
>> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
>> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
>> can find it now though. :(
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
05-08-2004 | 12:00 AM
#60
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Re: Are their any tricks for installing a 2" coil spacer in a TJ?
I dunno Bill... if you follow this thread, you'll see that Mike
removed both rear shocks, stood on one side of the brake drum, and
still couldn't get the spring out. So it wasn't the shock (in stock
configuration anyway) that was the limiting factor. He had to
disconnect the swaybar before he could remove the coil. With my ~2"
coil spacer lift, I'm using the Edelbrock shocks commonly used for a
3" lift.
Dave
On Fri, 07 May 2004 19:37:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
>course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
>position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
>directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
>straps:
>http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
>> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
>> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
>> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
>> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
>> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
>> can find it now though. :(
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
removed both rear shocks, stood on one side of the brake drum, and
still couldn't get the spring out. So it wasn't the shock (in stock
configuration anyway) that was the limiting factor. He had to
disconnect the swaybar before he could remove the coil. With my ~2"
coil spacer lift, I'm using the Edelbrock shocks commonly used for a
3" lift.
Dave
On Fri, 07 May 2004 19:37:45 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Not so on the TJ though, it's the shock limits the extension and of
>course you have your bump stop to protect the shock in the collapsed
>position. Most independent suspensions will limit the travel in both
>directions, although the Corvette is kind of primitive with just leather
>straps:
>http://www.dragvette.com/pubimages/s...e5-333-250.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>"David C. Moller" wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that the shock should never be the limiting
>> factor. Shocks aren't made to withstand the stress of sudden full
>> extension like you would get on a trail run. They'll break. Just like
>> when buying a shock, you're supposed to choose a length that won't
>> reach full compression. Read a real good article detailing how to
>> choose the proper length of shock a couple years back... damned if I
>> can find it now though. :(
>>
>> Dave
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm