Starting problems
11-22-2003 | 12:26 PM
#1
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Starting problems
This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
(most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
broke off. Questions:
1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
fly-wheel have to be replaced.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
(most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
broke off. Questions:
1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
fly-wheel have to be replaced.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
11-22-2003 | 12:34 PM
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Re: Starting problems
OK - hold on the spindle only spins free in one direction either position...
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
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> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-22-2003 | 12:34 PM
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Re: Starting problems
OK - hold on the spindle only spins free in one direction either position...
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
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> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-22-2003 | 12:34 PM
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Re: Starting problems
OK - hold on the spindle only spins free in one direction either position...
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-22-2003 | 02:33 PM
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Re: Starting problems
Approximately 11/22/03 08:26, JimG uttered for posterity:
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
The Bendix on your starter is worn out. This is the doohickey that
shoves that pinion gear out and into good contact with the ring gear.
If it fails, it will usually take out one or more spots on the ring
gear in the process.
OK, I guess you might have just a bad ring gear, but never seen
one break a tooth without help from a bad bendix.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
The Bendix on your starter is worn out. This is the doohickey that
shoves that pinion gear out and into good contact with the ring gear.
If it fails, it will usually take out one or more spots on the ring
gear in the process.
OK, I guess you might have just a bad ring gear, but never seen
one break a tooth without help from a bad bendix.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
11-22-2003 | 02:33 PM
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Re: Starting problems
Approximately 11/22/03 08:26, JimG uttered for posterity:
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
The Bendix on your starter is worn out. This is the doohickey that
shoves that pinion gear out and into good contact with the ring gear.
If it fails, it will usually take out one or more spots on the ring
gear in the process.
OK, I guess you might have just a bad ring gear, but never seen
one break a tooth without help from a bad bendix.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
The Bendix on your starter is worn out. This is the doohickey that
shoves that pinion gear out and into good contact with the ring gear.
If it fails, it will usually take out one or more spots on the ring
gear in the process.
OK, I guess you might have just a bad ring gear, but never seen
one break a tooth without help from a bad bendix.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
11-22-2003 | 02:33 PM
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Re: Starting problems
Approximately 11/22/03 08:26, JimG uttered for posterity:
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
The Bendix on your starter is worn out. This is the doohickey that
shoves that pinion gear out and into good contact with the ring gear.
If it fails, it will usually take out one or more spots on the ring
gear in the process.
OK, I guess you might have just a bad ring gear, but never seen
one break a tooth without help from a bad bendix.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
The Bendix on your starter is worn out. This is the doohickey that
shoves that pinion gear out and into good contact with the ring gear.
If it fails, it will usually take out one or more spots on the ring
gear in the process.
OK, I guess you might have just a bad ring gear, but never seen
one break a tooth without help from a bad bendix.
--
Still a Raiders fan, but no longer sure why.
11-23-2003 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Starting problems
It was the starter!.... what a relief, I wasn't ready to do clutch/flywheel
job. $36 dollars at Advance Auto.
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
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> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
job. $36 dollars at Advance Auto.
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-23-2003 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Starting problems
It was the starter!.... what a relief, I wasn't ready to do clutch/flywheel
job. $36 dollars at Advance Auto.
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
job. $36 dollars at Advance Auto.
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
11-23-2003 | 01:58 PM
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Re: Starting problems
It was the starter!.... what a relief, I wasn't ready to do clutch/flywheel
job. $36 dollars at Advance Auto.
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>
job. $36 dollars at Advance Auto.
JimG
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message
news:%6Mvb.2409$vZ7.1628@news01.roc.ny...
> This problem has got worse over the last year. The started will sometimes
> (most times now) just spin without turning the motor. I took the starter
> off and tested it on the bench and it appears to be fine. After removing
> the inspection plate I can see one place where a couple of the teeth are
> broke off. Questions:
> 1 - Is there a gear in the starter that could be worn out - the spindle
> spins free until the solenoid shoves it forward.
> 2 - Can the ring gear on the fly-wheel be changed, or does the whole
> fly-wheel have to be replaced.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
>