IsellJeeps

There are good salesman and bad yes I think TWaldron got something rammed
up his *** during a car purchase and has a vendetta against all salesman!
Yes I am proud to sell Jeeps.. that is all I do... I sold cars for several
years before opening up my own car lot & when I opened up I told everyone I
was going to have nothing but Jeep Wranglers.. Everyone told me I was
crazy.. They are the best vehicles made in my opinion... yes they have
querks but they are very solid reliable and have the best resale value out
there... I dont know a lot of technicle sh*t like Bill & Mike and others but
I will help anyone in the sale of a wrangler with any questions where ever
they are buying.......I pride myself in what I do & I have sold over 1500
wranglers and have had 2 people mad at me due to something happening to the
Jeep after they bought it....well I help any way I can & if anyone has
questions about buying any vehicle in the future email & I can try to answer
any questions!


--
Jarod Sprauer

Talk is JEEP at
www.sprauermotorsports.com
281-807-JEEP (5337)

IsellJeeps

There are good salesman and bad yes I think TWaldron got something rammed
up his *** during a car purchase and has a vendetta against all salesman!
Yes I am proud to sell Jeeps.. that is all I do... I sold cars for several
years before opening up my own car lot & when I opened up I told everyone I
was going to have nothing but Jeep Wranglers.. Everyone told me I was
crazy.. They are the best vehicles made in my opinion... yes they have
querks but they are very solid reliable and have the best resale value out
there... I dont know a lot of technicle sh*t like Bill & Mike and others but
I will help anyone in the sale of a wrangler with any questions where ever
they are buying.......I pride myself in what I do & I have sold over 1500
wranglers and have had 2 people mad at me due to something happening to the
Jeep after they bought it....well I help any way I can & if anyone has
questions about buying any vehicle in the future email & I can try to answer
any questions!


--
Jarod Sprauer

Talk is JEEP at
www.sprauermotorsports.com
281-807-JEEP (5337)

twaldron

Nope, never anything up my ***, however you guys keep trying. Makes one
wonder why you guys are so facinated with male asses, doesn't it? I have
no vendetta either, just think you are largely criminals that hide
behind a facade of a 'business'. The manufacturers look the other way
while you take unsuspecting lambs to slaughter. There is not one of you
that wouldn't sell his own mother "paint sealant" or some other crap,
and internally justify it to fill your own bank account. You do what you
do because you are losers who cannot fit into the workplace any other
way. Look at the turnover, right on par with teenagers in the restaurant
business. Not to be all negative, your "occupation" was best illustrated
in the film, "Fargo".

Now, run along and peddle your BS elsewhere and stop thinking about my ***.

IsellJeeps wrote:

> There are good salesman and bad yes I think TWaldron got something rammed
> up his *** during a car purchase and has a vendetta against all salesman!
> Yes I am proud to sell Jeeps.. that is all I do... I sold cars for several
> years before opening up my own car lot & when I opened up I told everyone I
> was going to have nothing but Jeep Wranglers.. Everyone told me I was
> crazy.. They are the best vehicles made in my opinion... yes they have
> querks but they are very solid reliable and have the best resale value out
> there... I dont know a lot of technicle sh*t like Bill & Mike and others but
> I will help anyone in the sale of a wrangler with any questions where ever
> they are buying.......I pride myself in what I do & I have sold over 1500
> wranglers and have had 2 people mad at me due to something happening to the
> Jeep after they bought it....well I help any way I can & if anyone has
> questions about buying any vehicle in the future email & I can try to answer
> any questions!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

Nope, never anything up my ***, however you guys keep trying. Makes one
wonder why you guys are so facinated with male asses, doesn't it? I have
no vendetta either, just think you are largely criminals that hide
behind a facade of a 'business'. The manufacturers look the other way
while you take unsuspecting lambs to slaughter. There is not one of you
that wouldn't sell his own mother "paint sealant" or some other crap,
and internally justify it to fill your own bank account. You do what you
do because you are losers who cannot fit into the workplace any other
way. Look at the turnover, right on par with teenagers in the restaurant
business. Not to be all negative, your "occupation" was best illustrated
in the film, "Fargo".

Now, run along and peddle your BS elsewhere and stop thinking about my ***.

IsellJeeps wrote:

> There are good salesman and bad yes I think TWaldron got something rammed
> up his *** during a car purchase and has a vendetta against all salesman!
> Yes I am proud to sell Jeeps.. that is all I do... I sold cars for several
> years before opening up my own car lot & when I opened up I told everyone I
> was going to have nothing but Jeep Wranglers.. Everyone told me I was
> crazy.. They are the best vehicles made in my opinion... yes they have
> querks but they are very solid reliable and have the best resale value out
> there... I dont know a lot of technicle sh*t like Bill & Mike and others but
> I will help anyone in the sale of a wrangler with any questions where ever
> they are buying.......I pride myself in what I do & I have sold over 1500
> wranglers and have had 2 people mad at me due to something happening to the
> Jeep after they bought it....well I help any way I can & if anyone has
> questions about buying any vehicle in the future email & I can try to answer
> any questions!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

Nope, never anything up my ***, however you guys keep trying. Makes one
wonder why you guys are so facinated with male asses, doesn't it? I have
no vendetta either, just think you are largely criminals that hide
behind a facade of a 'business'. The manufacturers look the other way
while you take unsuspecting lambs to slaughter. There is not one of you
that wouldn't sell his own mother "paint sealant" or some other crap,
and internally justify it to fill your own bank account. You do what you
do because you are losers who cannot fit into the workplace any other
way. Look at the turnover, right on par with teenagers in the restaurant
business. Not to be all negative, your "occupation" was best illustrated
in the film, "Fargo".

Now, run along and peddle your BS elsewhere and stop thinking about my ***.

IsellJeeps wrote:

> There are good salesman and bad yes I think TWaldron got something rammed
> up his *** during a car purchase and has a vendetta against all salesman!
> Yes I am proud to sell Jeeps.. that is all I do... I sold cars for several
> years before opening up my own car lot & when I opened up I told everyone I
> was going to have nothing but Jeep Wranglers.. Everyone told me I was
> crazy.. They are the best vehicles made in my opinion... yes they have
> querks but they are very solid reliable and have the best resale value out
> there... I dont know a lot of technicle sh*t like Bill & Mike and others but
> I will help anyone in the sale of a wrangler with any questions where ever
> they are buying.......I pride myself in what I do & I have sold over 1500
> wranglers and have had 2 people mad at me due to something happening to the
> Jeep after they bought it....well I help any way I can & if anyone has
> questions about buying any vehicle in the future email & I can try to answer
> any questions!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

They suck, no doubt, but I've seen worse. This is just the norm for the
industry. They look you straight in the eye and lie, one right after the
other. You did OK...and you're right, the gas is a bribe to 'smooth
over' the reaming. You're not falling for it. Be honest on the survey.

One way to fix the sticker would be to get two towels. Place one on an
ironing board, put down the sticker, and place the other towel on top.
Iron the top towel, use steam if necessary, and the paper in between
will straighten out.

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> heh, i dont doubt a word of it. just _once_ id like to buy a new vehicle
> and come out of it feeling like everything was fair. on this deal in the
> beginning i _thought_ the dealership was doing me a big favor by offering to
> sell my '01 cummins dodge on consignment....told me it wouldnt cost me a
> dime. i wanted $19,400 for it and since there was an identical truck on the
> lot down the road for $24,000 i thought for sure they would sell it quickly.
> a couple weeks later i got a call from the sales manager (owners son)
> suggesting that i drop the price another $1,500 to sell it (an '01 dodge
> cummins quad cab 4x4 diesel in PERFECT condition for $17,900 YEAH RIGHT!)
> and i told him flat out no way in hell. i had a friend call down there to
> ask them how much they wanted for the only '01 dodge cummins 4x4 on their
> lot and they told him $23,800. NO WONDER it hadnt sold! strike one.
> during financing they told me that the employee number on my relative was no
> good (not true) so they couldnt honor the green sheet pricing. strike two,
> we're settling that one now. to top it off they jacked up the chryco
> interest rate to 17.2%? no thanks, i got my own credit union. strike 3.
> to top it off they took my "made especially for nathan w. collier" window
> sticker and they folded it up like a used hamburger wrapper and shoved it in
> the glovebox, making it permanently creased
> (http://7slotgrille.com/images/forump...bi/sticker.jpg you can see
> the criss cross crease marks in the picture). now i know its just a sticker
> and should be insignificant but it was MY sticker and they should have at
> least asked if i wanted it folded.
>
> after everything else they offered me a free tank of gas if i entered 100%
> satisfaction on the chryco customer survey and bring it in to them to mail.
> well, a free tank of gas just isnt that important to me and im going to be
> honest in my customer survey. the sales staff was great, i couldnt have
> asked for better treatment. they always made time to talk to me any time i
> came down to check my status and they went out of their way to make it a
> pleasurable experience for me. this will be noted. the management and
> finance department however, will not get the same response. im glad its all
> over, and im really glad to have my jeep.....but i do hate feeling dirty
> anytime i buy a new vehicle.
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

They suck, no doubt, but I've seen worse. This is just the norm for the
industry. They look you straight in the eye and lie, one right after the
other. You did OK...and you're right, the gas is a bribe to 'smooth
over' the reaming. You're not falling for it. Be honest on the survey.

One way to fix the sticker would be to get two towels. Place one on an
ironing board, put down the sticker, and place the other towel on top.
Iron the top towel, use steam if necessary, and the paper in between
will straighten out.

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> heh, i dont doubt a word of it. just _once_ id like to buy a new vehicle
> and come out of it feeling like everything was fair. on this deal in the
> beginning i _thought_ the dealership was doing me a big favor by offering to
> sell my '01 cummins dodge on consignment....told me it wouldnt cost me a
> dime. i wanted $19,400 for it and since there was an identical truck on the
> lot down the road for $24,000 i thought for sure they would sell it quickly.
> a couple weeks later i got a call from the sales manager (owners son)
> suggesting that i drop the price another $1,500 to sell it (an '01 dodge
> cummins quad cab 4x4 diesel in PERFECT condition for $17,900 YEAH RIGHT!)
> and i told him flat out no way in hell. i had a friend call down there to
> ask them how much they wanted for the only '01 dodge cummins 4x4 on their
> lot and they told him $23,800. NO WONDER it hadnt sold! strike one.
> during financing they told me that the employee number on my relative was no
> good (not true) so they couldnt honor the green sheet pricing. strike two,
> we're settling that one now. to top it off they jacked up the chryco
> interest rate to 17.2%? no thanks, i got my own credit union. strike 3.
> to top it off they took my "made especially for nathan w. collier" window
> sticker and they folded it up like a used hamburger wrapper and shoved it in
> the glovebox, making it permanently creased
> (http://7slotgrille.com/images/forump...bi/sticker.jpg you can see
> the criss cross crease marks in the picture). now i know its just a sticker
> and should be insignificant but it was MY sticker and they should have at
> least asked if i wanted it folded.
>
> after everything else they offered me a free tank of gas if i entered 100%
> satisfaction on the chryco customer survey and bring it in to them to mail.
> well, a free tank of gas just isnt that important to me and im going to be
> honest in my customer survey. the sales staff was great, i couldnt have
> asked for better treatment. they always made time to talk to me any time i
> came down to check my status and they went out of their way to make it a
> pleasurable experience for me. this will be noted. the management and
> finance department however, will not get the same response. im glad its all
> over, and im really glad to have my jeep.....but i do hate feeling dirty
> anytime i buy a new vehicle.
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

They suck, no doubt, but I've seen worse. This is just the norm for the
industry. They look you straight in the eye and lie, one right after the
other. You did OK...and you're right, the gas is a bribe to 'smooth
over' the reaming. You're not falling for it. Be honest on the survey.

One way to fix the sticker would be to get two towels. Place one on an
ironing board, put down the sticker, and place the other towel on top.
Iron the top towel, use steam if necessary, and the paper in between
will straighten out.

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> heh, i dont doubt a word of it. just _once_ id like to buy a new vehicle
> and come out of it feeling like everything was fair. on this deal in the
> beginning i _thought_ the dealership was doing me a big favor by offering to
> sell my '01 cummins dodge on consignment....told me it wouldnt cost me a
> dime. i wanted $19,400 for it and since there was an identical truck on the
> lot down the road for $24,000 i thought for sure they would sell it quickly.
> a couple weeks later i got a call from the sales manager (owners son)
> suggesting that i drop the price another $1,500 to sell it (an '01 dodge
> cummins quad cab 4x4 diesel in PERFECT condition for $17,900 YEAH RIGHT!)
> and i told him flat out no way in hell. i had a friend call down there to
> ask them how much they wanted for the only '01 dodge cummins 4x4 on their
> lot and they told him $23,800. NO WONDER it hadnt sold! strike one.
> during financing they told me that the employee number on my relative was no
> good (not true) so they couldnt honor the green sheet pricing. strike two,
> we're settling that one now. to top it off they jacked up the chryco
> interest rate to 17.2%? no thanks, i got my own credit union. strike 3.
> to top it off they took my "made especially for nathan w. collier" window
> sticker and they folded it up like a used hamburger wrapper and shoved it in
> the glovebox, making it permanently creased
> (http://7slotgrille.com/images/forump...bi/sticker.jpg you can see
> the criss cross crease marks in the picture). now i know its just a sticker
> and should be insignificant but it was MY sticker and they should have at
> least asked if i wanted it folded.
>
> after everything else they offered me a free tank of gas if i entered 100%
> satisfaction on the chryco customer survey and bring it in to them to mail.
> well, a free tank of gas just isnt that important to me and im going to be
> honest in my customer survey. the sales staff was great, i couldnt have
> asked for better treatment. they always made time to talk to me any time i
> came down to check my status and they went out of their way to make it a
> pleasurable experience for me. this will be noted. the management and
> finance department however, will not get the same response. im glad its all
> over, and im really glad to have my jeep.....but i do hate feeling dirty
> anytime i buy a new vehicle.
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

IsellJeeps

And what is your great occupation Mr Waldron? & you are WRONG about the
manufactures... They are insulting the populations intelligence..when they
offer 5000-10000 rebates.. they are making all the money when selling to the
dealers...If you knew anything about "the car business" the profit lies in
parts service and body shop! I am sorry you feel I am a Loser criminal car
salesman but you would be riding a bicycle if there were no salesman! :)



"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:dXrZd.12363$WK2.5606@newssvr30.news.prodigy.c om...
> Nope, never anything up my ***, however you guys keep trying. Makes one
> wonder why you guys are so facinated with male asses, doesn't it? I have
> no vendetta either, just think you are largely criminals that hide
> behind a facade of a 'business'. The manufacturers look the other way
> while you take unsuspecting lambs to slaughter. There is not one of you
> that wouldn't sell his own mother "paint sealant" or some other crap,
> and internally justify it to fill your own bank account. You do what you
> do because you are losers who cannot fit into the workplace any other
> way. Look at the turnover, right on par with teenagers in the restaurant
> business. Not to be all negative, your "occupation" was best illustrated
> in the film, "Fargo".
>
> Now, run along and peddle your BS elsewhere and stop thinking about my
***.
>
> IsellJeeps wrote:
>
> > There are good salesman and bad yes I think TWaldron got something
rammed
> > up his *** during a car purchase and has a vendetta against all
salesman!
> > Yes I am proud to sell Jeeps.. that is all I do... I sold cars for
several
> > years before opening up my own car lot & when I opened up I told
everyone I
> > was going to have nothing but Jeep Wranglers.. Everyone told me I was
> > crazy.. They are the best vehicles made in my opinion... yes they have
> > querks but they are very solid reliable and have the best resale value
out
> > there... I dont know a lot of technicle sh*t like Bill & Mike and others
but
> > I will help anyone in the sale of a wrangler with any questions where
ever
> > they are buying.......I pride myself in what I do & I have sold over
1500
> > wranglers and have had 2 people mad at me due to something happening to
the
> > Jeep after they bought it....well I help any way I can & if anyone has
> > questions about buying any vehicle in the future email & I can try to
answer
> > any questions!
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

IsellJeeps

And what is your great occupation Mr Waldron? & you are WRONG about the
manufactures... They are insulting the populations intelligence..when they
offer 5000-10000 rebates.. they are making all the money when selling to the
dealers...If you knew anything about "the car business" the profit lies in
parts service and body shop! I am sorry you feel I am a Loser criminal car
salesman but you would be riding a bicycle if there were no salesman! :)



"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:dXrZd.12363$WK2.5606@newssvr30.news.prodigy.c om...
> Nope, never anything up my ***, however you guys keep trying. Makes one
> wonder why you guys are so facinated with male asses, doesn't it? I have
> no vendetta either, just think you are largely criminals that hide
> behind a facade of a 'business'. The manufacturers look the other way
> while you take unsuspecting lambs to slaughter. There is not one of you
> that wouldn't sell his own mother "paint sealant" or some other crap,
> and internally justify it to fill your own bank account. You do what you
> do because you are losers who cannot fit into the workplace any other
> way. Look at the turnover, right on par with teenagers in the restaurant
> business. Not to be all negative, your "occupation" was best illustrated
> in the film, "Fargo".
>
> Now, run along and peddle your BS elsewhere and stop thinking about my
***.
>
> IsellJeeps wrote:
>
> > There are good salesman and bad yes I think TWaldron got something
rammed
> > up his *** during a car purchase and has a vendetta against all
salesman!
> > Yes I am proud to sell Jeeps.. that is all I do... I sold cars for
several
> > years before opening up my own car lot & when I opened up I told
everyone I
> > was going to have nothing but Jeep Wranglers.. Everyone told me I was
> > crazy.. They are the best vehicles made in my opinion... yes they have
> > querks but they are very solid reliable and have the best resale value
out
> > there... I dont know a lot of technicle sh*t like Bill & Mike and others
but
> > I will help anyone in the sale of a wrangler with any questions where
ever
> > they are buying.......I pride myself in what I do & I have sold over
1500
> > wranglers and have had 2 people mad at me due to something happening to
the
> > Jeep after they bought it....well I help any way I can & if anyone has
> > questions about buying any vehicle in the future email & I can try to
answer
> > any questions!
>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________