Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
#1
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Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full time
top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
Marty
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suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full time
top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
Marty
--
There is only one race....the Human race
See our webpage: www.theramp.net/cinmar.
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
Rock Crusher is a cheap offshore knock-off brand sold by 4 Wheel Parts and
others. If their top is anything like their other products you'll rue the
day you bought it.
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6io1i0nm7m57@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
> suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
> because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
> leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full
time
> top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
> like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
>
> Marty
>
> --
>
>
> There is only one race....the Human race
> See our webpage: www.theramp.net/cinmar.
>
>
others. If their top is anything like their other products you'll rue the
day you bought it.
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6io1i0nm7m57@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
> suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
> because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
> leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full
time
> top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
> like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
>
> Marty
>
> --
>
>
> There is only one race....the Human race
> See our webpage: www.theramp.net/cinmar.
>
>
#3
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
Rock Crusher is a cheap offshore knock-off brand sold by 4 Wheel Parts and
others. If their top is anything like their other products you'll rue the
day you bought it.
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6io1i0nm7m57@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
> suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
> because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
> leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full
time
> top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
> like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
>
> Marty
>
> --
>
>
> There is only one race....the Human race
> See our webpage: www.theramp.net/cinmar.
>
>
others. If their top is anything like their other products you'll rue the
day you bought it.
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6io1i0nm7m57@corp.supernews.com...
> Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
> suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
> because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
> leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full
time
> top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
> like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
>
> Marty
>
> --
>
>
> There is only one race....the Human race
> See our webpage: www.theramp.net/cinmar.
>
>
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not pleased.
There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few bows
to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would still
take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she bought
it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few bows
to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would still
take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she bought
it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
#5
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not pleased.
There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few bows
to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would still
take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she bought
it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few bows
to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would still
take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she bought
it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
Don W
'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's
And it finally runs!!!!!
#6
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't want
my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
Thanks again,
Marty
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not pleased.
> There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
> rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few
bows
> to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
still
> take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
bought
> it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
>
> If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
>
> Don W
>
> '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> AMC 360
> T/F 727
> Dana 300
> One-piece model 20 rear
> Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> 2" shackle lift/reversal
> 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> 33" Mickey's
>
> And it finally runs!!!!!
my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
Thanks again,
Marty
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not pleased.
> There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
> rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few
bows
> to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
still
> take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
bought
> it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
>
> If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
>
> Don W
>
> '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> AMC 360
> T/F 727
> Dana 300
> One-piece model 20 rear
> Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> 2" shackle lift/reversal
> 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> 33" Mickey's
>
> And it finally runs!!!!!
#7
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't want
my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
Thanks again,
Marty
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not pleased.
> There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
> rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few
bows
> to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
still
> take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
bought
> it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
>
> If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
>
> Don W
>
> '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> AMC 360
> T/F 727
> Dana 300
> One-piece model 20 rear
> Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> 2" shackle lift/reversal
> 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> 33" Mickey's
>
> And it finally runs!!!!!
my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
Thanks again,
Marty
"Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not pleased.
> There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and water
> rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a few
bows
> to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
still
> take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
bought
> it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
>
> If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
>
> Don W
>
> '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> AMC 360
> T/F 727
> Dana 300
> One-piece model 20 rear
> Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> 2" shackle lift/reversal
> 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> 33" Mickey's
>
> And it finally runs!!!!!
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
Just to soap box a moment on this issue.
Steel Horse, Rock Crusher, etc., are managed by parasites who intentionally
import crap, often not even tested, which they reverse engineer from quality
products made by reputable Companies like Currie, Durango, Warn, Bestop,
etc. These outfits' general scam is to make the items look in catalog print
just like competitors' functional, high-quality, items and then sell them at
half-price. The unsuspecting consumer bites on the scam, buys the junk, is
disappointed and ends up having to spend even more to get the quality item
they thought they were getting in the first place. Both the consumer and the
quality mfr lose in the process, the only entities making out in this deal
are the scumbags at 4 Wheel Parts and the offshore sweatshops.
The only way to fight this is to expose them and their products for what
they are. If you order an item from any of the usual Jeep suppliers, like 4
Wheel Hardware, Quadratec, the aforementioned slime at 4 Wheel Parts, etc.
and it turns out to be some Asian knock-off piece of junk, then send it
back with a letter of complaint and post it here.
I met the folks at Quadratec's Moab booth back in April and let them know
without a doubt what I thought about the quality of some of the Steel Horse
crap they sent me when I was restoring my '76 CJ5. They claim they're not
using them any longer, but caveat emptor: Before you conclude an order with
any of the mail order houses mentioned here, demand to know it the stuff is
from these bogus vendors, and if it is, refuse the order, the delivery, etc.
Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
..
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6nf9k2oait46@corp.supernews.com...
> OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't
want
> my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
> but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
>
> Thanks again,
> Marty
>
> "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not
pleased.
> > There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and
water
> > rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a
few
> bows
> > to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
> still
> > take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> > I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> > Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
> bought
> > it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
> >
> > If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
> >
> > Don W
> >
> > '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> > AMC 360
> > T/F 727
> > Dana 300
> > One-piece model 20 rear
> > Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> > 2" shackle lift/reversal
> > 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> > 33" Mickey's
> >
> > And it finally runs!!!!!
>
>
Steel Horse, Rock Crusher, etc., are managed by parasites who intentionally
import crap, often not even tested, which they reverse engineer from quality
products made by reputable Companies like Currie, Durango, Warn, Bestop,
etc. These outfits' general scam is to make the items look in catalog print
just like competitors' functional, high-quality, items and then sell them at
half-price. The unsuspecting consumer bites on the scam, buys the junk, is
disappointed and ends up having to spend even more to get the quality item
they thought they were getting in the first place. Both the consumer and the
quality mfr lose in the process, the only entities making out in this deal
are the scumbags at 4 Wheel Parts and the offshore sweatshops.
The only way to fight this is to expose them and their products for what
they are. If you order an item from any of the usual Jeep suppliers, like 4
Wheel Hardware, Quadratec, the aforementioned slime at 4 Wheel Parts, etc.
and it turns out to be some Asian knock-off piece of junk, then send it
back with a letter of complaint and post it here.
I met the folks at Quadratec's Moab booth back in April and let them know
without a doubt what I thought about the quality of some of the Steel Horse
crap they sent me when I was restoring my '76 CJ5. They claim they're not
using them any longer, but caveat emptor: Before you conclude an order with
any of the mail order houses mentioned here, demand to know it the stuff is
from these bogus vendors, and if it is, refuse the order, the delivery, etc.
Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
..
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6nf9k2oait46@corp.supernews.com...
> OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't
want
> my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
> but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
>
> Thanks again,
> Marty
>
> "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not
pleased.
> > There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and
water
> > rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a
few
> bows
> > to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
> still
> > take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> > I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> > Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
> bought
> > it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
> >
> > If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
> >
> > Don W
> >
> > '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> > AMC 360
> > T/F 727
> > Dana 300
> > One-piece model 20 rear
> > Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> > 2" shackle lift/reversal
> > 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> > 33" Mickey's
> >
> > And it finally runs!!!!!
>
>
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
Just to soap box a moment on this issue.
Steel Horse, Rock Crusher, etc., are managed by parasites who intentionally
import crap, often not even tested, which they reverse engineer from quality
products made by reputable Companies like Currie, Durango, Warn, Bestop,
etc. These outfits' general scam is to make the items look in catalog print
just like competitors' functional, high-quality, items and then sell them at
half-price. The unsuspecting consumer bites on the scam, buys the junk, is
disappointed and ends up having to spend even more to get the quality item
they thought they were getting in the first place. Both the consumer and the
quality mfr lose in the process, the only entities making out in this deal
are the scumbags at 4 Wheel Parts and the offshore sweatshops.
The only way to fight this is to expose them and their products for what
they are. If you order an item from any of the usual Jeep suppliers, like 4
Wheel Hardware, Quadratec, the aforementioned slime at 4 Wheel Parts, etc.
and it turns out to be some Asian knock-off piece of junk, then send it
back with a letter of complaint and post it here.
I met the folks at Quadratec's Moab booth back in April and let them know
without a doubt what I thought about the quality of some of the Steel Horse
crap they sent me when I was restoring my '76 CJ5. They claim they're not
using them any longer, but caveat emptor: Before you conclude an order with
any of the mail order houses mentioned here, demand to know it the stuff is
from these bogus vendors, and if it is, refuse the order, the delivery, etc.
Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
..
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6nf9k2oait46@corp.supernews.com...
> OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't
want
> my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
> but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
>
> Thanks again,
> Marty
>
> "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not
pleased.
> > There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and
water
> > rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a
few
> bows
> > to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
> still
> > take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> > I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> > Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
> bought
> > it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
> >
> > If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
> >
> > Don W
> >
> > '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> > AMC 360
> > T/F 727
> > Dana 300
> > One-piece model 20 rear
> > Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> > 2" shackle lift/reversal
> > 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> > 33" Mickey's
> >
> > And it finally runs!!!!!
>
>
Steel Horse, Rock Crusher, etc., are managed by parasites who intentionally
import crap, often not even tested, which they reverse engineer from quality
products made by reputable Companies like Currie, Durango, Warn, Bestop,
etc. These outfits' general scam is to make the items look in catalog print
just like competitors' functional, high-quality, items and then sell them at
half-price. The unsuspecting consumer bites on the scam, buys the junk, is
disappointed and ends up having to spend even more to get the quality item
they thought they were getting in the first place. Both the consumer and the
quality mfr lose in the process, the only entities making out in this deal
are the scumbags at 4 Wheel Parts and the offshore sweatshops.
The only way to fight this is to expose them and their products for what
they are. If you order an item from any of the usual Jeep suppliers, like 4
Wheel Hardware, Quadratec, the aforementioned slime at 4 Wheel Parts, etc.
and it turns out to be some Asian knock-off piece of junk, then send it
back with a letter of complaint and post it here.
I met the folks at Quadratec's Moab booth back in April and let them know
without a doubt what I thought about the quality of some of the Steel Horse
crap they sent me when I was restoring my '76 CJ5. They claim they're not
using them any longer, but caveat emptor: Before you conclude an order with
any of the mail order houses mentioned here, demand to know it the stuff is
from these bogus vendors, and if it is, refuse the order, the delivery, etc.
Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
..
"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vm6nf9k2oait46@corp.supernews.com...
> OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't
want
> my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
> but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
>
> Thanks again,
> Marty
>
> "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not
pleased.
> > There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and
water
> > rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a
few
> bows
> > to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
> still
> > take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> > I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> > Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
> bought
> > it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
> >
> > If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
> >
> > Don W
> >
> > '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> > AMC 360
> > T/F 727
> > Dana 300
> > One-piece model 20 rear
> > Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> > 2" shackle lift/reversal
> > 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> > 33" Mickey's
> >
> > And it finally runs!!!!!
>
>
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Re: Rock Crusher cab top and tonneau boot
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vm6plq47ofc9e4@corp.supernews.com...
> Just to soap box a moment on this issue.
>
> Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
> the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
As a matter of fact, I think StealHorse went out of business... but I've
also heard they're back with another name selling the same crappy stuff.
Even their plastic parts rust!
td
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> Just to soap box a moment on this issue.
>
> Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
> the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
As a matter of fact, I think StealHorse went out of business... but I've
also heard they're back with another name selling the same crappy stuff.
Even their plastic parts rust!
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