Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> I guess you guys have never had a MC fail?
>
> I have and believe me it is an 'emergency' brake and works quite well at
> it.

Yeppers. It's both.

Parking brakes are more for standard trannies since autos have parking pawls.
Although it is recommended to use the parking brake on slopes even if you have
an auto.

As pointed out before.. use them in real cold weather and you may be stuck
for a while.. a long while..

The first thing you should do when the brakes fail is pump the brakes, that
can give you enough pressure to stop. Next is shift down in gears and let
the engine/tranny slow you down. Then the emergency brake but make sure
your going straight or the ends are going to swap places.

(of course on a nice iced parking lot, the emergency brake can also be
called a wahoo lever) :)

--
DougW

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F4678F4.96635577@sympatico.ca...
> > Maybe it's a 'parking brake' down south, but you 'sure' don't want to
> > use it for that up here. Put it on in the winter and you vehicle stays
> > parked until spring....
> >
> > It is an 'emergency' brake for when your main brakes fail. Then you
> > have a mechanical backup.
> >
>
> Jesus Mike, it isn't ALWAYS 45 below 0 in Canada.


I know, I know, only for 8 months or so....
;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F4678F4.96635577@sympatico.ca...
> > Maybe it's a 'parking brake' down south, but you 'sure' don't want to
> > use it for that up here. Put it on in the winter and you vehicle stays
> > parked until spring....
> >
> > It is an 'emergency' brake for when your main brakes fail. Then you
> > have a mechanical backup.
> >
>
> Jesus Mike, it isn't ALWAYS 45 below 0 in Canada.


I know, I know, only for 8 months or so....
;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

Most here have never driven a car without the fail-safe secondary
master cylinder and proportioning valve that will shut off the axle that
is leaking.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I guess you guys have never had a MC fail?
>
> I have and believe me it is an 'emergency' brake and works quite well at
> it.
>
> Mike

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

Most here have never driven a car without the fail-safe secondary
master cylinder and proportioning valve that will shut off the axle that
is leaking.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I guess you guys have never had a MC fail?
>
> I have and believe me it is an 'emergency' brake and works quite well at
> it.
>
> Mike

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

true !

Dave

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:15:27 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Most here have never driven a car without the fail-safe secondary
>master cylinder and proportioning valve that will shut off the axle that
>is leaking.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I guess you guys have never had a MC fail?
>>
>> I have and believe me it is an 'emergency' brake and works quite well at
>> it.
>>
>> Mike

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ Sahara

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

true !

Dave

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:15:27 GMT, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Most here have never driven a car without the fail-safe secondary
>master cylinder and proportioning valve that will shut off the axle that
>is leaking.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> I guess you guys have never had a MC fail?
>>
>> I have and believe me it is an 'emergency' brake and works quite well at
>> it.
>>
>> Mike

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ Sahara

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

I concur. Had the MC fail in an old Toyota as we were approaching a stop
light with several cars already stopped. It locked the back wheel up, but
we stopped with about a foot to spare. Would have seriously smacked the
back of those cars had we not had it.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F4689D2.626527D4@sympatico.ca...
> I guess you guys have never had a MC fail?
>
> I have and believe me it is an 'emergency' brake and works quite well at
> it.
>
> Mike
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Jeff - they are much too weedy to be an effective
> > "emergency brake", and as they only operate on the rear wheels, can
> > spin you around in the wet.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:11:32 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Maybe it's a 'parking brake' down south, but you 'sure' don't want to
> > >use it for that up here. Put it on in the winter and you vehicle stays
> > >parked until spring....
> > >
> > >It is an 'emergency' brake for when your main brakes fail. Then you
> > >have a mechanical backup.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Your first mistake is in referring to them as Emergency Brakes, they
are
> > >> Parking Brakes.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ Sahara

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

I concur. Had the MC fail in an old Toyota as we were approaching a stop
light with several cars already stopped. It locked the back wheel up, but
we stopped with about a foot to spare. Would have seriously smacked the
back of those cars had we not had it.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F4689D2.626527D4@sympatico.ca...
> I guess you guys have never had a MC fail?
>
> I have and believe me it is an 'emergency' brake and works quite well at
> it.
>
> Mike
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Jeff - they are much too weedy to be an effective
> > "emergency brake", and as they only operate on the rear wheels, can
> > spin you around in the wet.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:11:32 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Maybe it's a 'parking brake' down south, but you 'sure' don't want to
> > >use it for that up here. Put it on in the winter and you vehicle stays
> > >parked until spring....
> > >
> > >It is an 'emergency' brake for when your main brakes fail. Then you
> > >have a mechanical backup.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Your first mistake is in referring to them as Emergency Brakes, they
are
> > >> Parking Brakes.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ Sahara

Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
 

The emergency / parking brake is also good for making speed reductions
without the rear brake lights coming on... For this, one should keep the
thumb release depressed the entire time so that you can control how much
braking action is applied without the brake lever locking... Since most of
your braking action is from the front wheels, you don't slow down all that
quickly though...