removing or relocating emergency brake handle
08-24-2003, 02:45 PM
#91
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle "Doug W"
I have problems believing much over 10-11 years old, judging
from the vocabulary, grammar, writing skills, and general
personality. Not a particularly bright 10 year old at that.
Approximately 8/24/03 06:50, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> I find it difficult to believe you are 39, a person 39 takes
> responsibility for their statements by signing them, and not hiding
> behind a bogus address.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mctiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I know about children as you stated.You do not realize maybe women
>> reading this group?I am a mechanic by trade and only was pointing out
>> a fact to you.
>> Maybe the child that you are can not accept any corrections in your
>> statements.
>> Only one thing comes to mind when you are repairing a car-Step away
>> from the vehicles!
>> Also by the way I am over 39 yrs old.I also am engaged in a battle of
>> wits with a person half armed..
>> I hope the people in this group realize that you are not a
>> mechanic-but a electrician.
>> Have a great day!
>> Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.
from the vocabulary, grammar, writing skills, and general
personality. Not a particularly bright 10 year old at that.
Approximately 8/24/03 06:50, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:
> I find it difficult to believe you are 39, a person 39 takes
> responsibility for their statements by signing them, and not hiding
> behind a bogus address.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mctiger wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I know about children as you stated.You do not realize maybe women
>> reading this group?I am a mechanic by trade and only was pointing out
>> a fact to you.
>> Maybe the child that you are can not accept any corrections in your
>> statements.
>> Only one thing comes to mind when you are repairing a car-Step away
>> from the vehicles!
>> Also by the way I am over 39 yrs old.I also am engaged in a battle of
>> wits with a person half armed..
>> I hope the people in this group realize that you are not a
>> mechanic-but a electrician.
>> Have a great day!
>> Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.
08-24-2003, 02:49 PM
#92
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>
> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> and coat everything with ice.
That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> Had two weeks straight of it here in Toronto this spring.
>
> My CJ7 with the 33x9.5 muds could go anywhere, I just couldn't walk to
> the Jeep!
>
> Had almost 1" of solid ice coating my CJ in the mornings a couple times.
>
> The salt on the roads made an ice slurry.
>
> My plumbing boss had me with the CJ7 and my Warn HS9000i winch set up to
> follow his Ford van on service calls so he could get in there or out of
> there.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Ice? Oh yes, that's the pretty white fluffy stuff we in Southern
>> California see in pictures.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> jbjeep wrote:
>> >
>> > amen to that!
>> > big ice storms here in 96, had the parking break freeze in place, and I was backed
>> > into a shed at the time. called around and the shops gave me 3 possible ways to fix
>> > it.
>> >
>> > 1 - pop it hard in reverse and see if the ice chunk breaks (and try not to go thru
>> > the back of the shed).
>> >
>> > 2 - take the wheels off and use a hairdryer to melt out the ice.
>> >
>> > 3 - wait until it thaws (that was like 3 weeks it turns out).
>> >
>> > I tried number 1, and it did break the ice and just barely missed going thru the rear
>> > wall. I was able to get the brake off and move the rig again - the rig wouldnt move
>> > at all fowards before I did this. Thats the LAST time I used the parking/emergency
>> > brake in the winter.
> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>
> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> and coat everything with ice.
That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> Had two weeks straight of it here in Toronto this spring.
>
> My CJ7 with the 33x9.5 muds could go anywhere, I just couldn't walk to
> the Jeep!
>
> Had almost 1" of solid ice coating my CJ in the mornings a couple times.
>
> The salt on the roads made an ice slurry.
>
> My plumbing boss had me with the CJ7 and my Warn HS9000i winch set up to
> follow his Ford van on service calls so he could get in there or out of
> there.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Ice? Oh yes, that's the pretty white fluffy stuff we in Southern
>> California see in pictures.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> jbjeep wrote:
>> >
>> > amen to that!
>> > big ice storms here in 96, had the parking break freeze in place, and I was backed
>> > into a shed at the time. called around and the shops gave me 3 possible ways to fix
>> > it.
>> >
>> > 1 - pop it hard in reverse and see if the ice chunk breaks (and try not to go thru
>> > the back of the shed).
>> >
>> > 2 - take the wheels off and use a hairdryer to melt out the ice.
>> >
>> > 3 - wait until it thaws (that was like 3 weeks it turns out).
>> >
>> > I tried number 1, and it did break the ice and just barely missed going thru the rear
>> > wall. I was able to get the brake off and move the rig again - the rig wouldnt move
>> > at all fowards before I did this. Thats the LAST time I used the parking/emergency
>> > brake in the winter.
08-24-2003, 02:49 PM
#93
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>
> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> and coat everything with ice.
That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> Had two weeks straight of it here in Toronto this spring.
>
> My CJ7 with the 33x9.5 muds could go anywhere, I just couldn't walk to
> the Jeep!
>
> Had almost 1" of solid ice coating my CJ in the mornings a couple times.
>
> The salt on the roads made an ice slurry.
>
> My plumbing boss had me with the CJ7 and my Warn HS9000i winch set up to
> follow his Ford van on service calls so he could get in there or out of
> there.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Ice? Oh yes, that's the pretty white fluffy stuff we in Southern
>> California see in pictures.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> jbjeep wrote:
>> >
>> > amen to that!
>> > big ice storms here in 96, had the parking break freeze in place, and I was backed
>> > into a shed at the time. called around and the shops gave me 3 possible ways to fix
>> > it.
>> >
>> > 1 - pop it hard in reverse and see if the ice chunk breaks (and try not to go thru
>> > the back of the shed).
>> >
>> > 2 - take the wheels off and use a hairdryer to melt out the ice.
>> >
>> > 3 - wait until it thaws (that was like 3 weeks it turns out).
>> >
>> > I tried number 1, and it did break the ice and just barely missed going thru the rear
>> > wall. I was able to get the brake off and move the rig again - the rig wouldnt move
>> > at all fowards before I did this. Thats the LAST time I used the parking/emergency
>> > brake in the winter.
> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>
> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> and coat everything with ice.
That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> Had two weeks straight of it here in Toronto this spring.
>
> My CJ7 with the 33x9.5 muds could go anywhere, I just couldn't walk to
> the Jeep!
>
> Had almost 1" of solid ice coating my CJ in the mornings a couple times.
>
> The salt on the roads made an ice slurry.
>
> My plumbing boss had me with the CJ7 and my Warn HS9000i winch set up to
> follow his Ford van on service calls so he could get in there or out of
> there.
>
> Mike
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>>
>> Ice? Oh yes, that's the pretty white fluffy stuff we in Southern
>> California see in pictures.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> jbjeep wrote:
>> >
>> > amen to that!
>> > big ice storms here in 96, had the parking break freeze in place, and I was backed
>> > into a shed at the time. called around and the shops gave me 3 possible ways to fix
>> > it.
>> >
>> > 1 - pop it hard in reverse and see if the ice chunk breaks (and try not to go thru
>> > the back of the shed).
>> >
>> > 2 - take the wheels off and use a hairdryer to melt out the ice.
>> >
>> > 3 - wait until it thaws (that was like 3 weeks it turns out).
>> >
>> > I tried number 1, and it did break the ice and just barely missed going thru the rear
>> > wall. I was able to get the brake off and move the rig again - the rig wouldnt move
>> > at all fowards before I did this. Thats the LAST time I used the parking/emergency
>> > brake in the winter.
08-24-2003, 02:55 PM
#94
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
>
>> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>>
>> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
>> and coat everything with ice.
>
> That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
--
DougW
> Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
>
>> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>>
>> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
>> and coat everything with ice.
>
> That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
--
DougW
08-24-2003, 02:55 PM
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
Lon Stowell wrote:
> Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
>
>> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>>
>> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
>> and coat everything with ice.
>
> That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
--
DougW
> Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
>
>> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
>>
>> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
>> and coat everything with ice.
>
> That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
--
DougW
08-24-2003, 04:24 PM
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
Not being able to turn was the last straw for my Dad, and he moved
his new wife from Iowa to start building airplanes in sunny California.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
> DougW
his new wife from Iowa to start building airplanes in sunny California.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
> DougW
08-24-2003, 04:24 PM
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
Not being able to turn was the last straw for my Dad, and he moved
his new wife from Iowa to start building airplanes in sunny California.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
> DougW
his new wife from Iowa to start building airplanes in sunny California.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
> DougW
08-24-2003, 04:25 PM
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
DougW wrote:
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
> > Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
> >
> >> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
> >>
> >> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> >> and coat everything with ice.
> >
> > That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> > ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> > really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> > ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> > while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> > mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
LOL!
Man having to get out and take an axe or tire iron to the wheel well is
a riot isn't it.
Or being frozen solid to the driveway...
Mike
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
> > Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
> >
> >> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
> >>
> >> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> >> and coat everything with ice.
> >
> > That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> > ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> > really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> > ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> > while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> > mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
LOL!
Man having to get out and take an axe or tire iron to the wheel well is
a riot isn't it.
Or being frozen solid to the driveway...
Mike
08-24-2003, 04:25 PM
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
DougW wrote:
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
> > Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
> >
> >> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
> >>
> >> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> >> and coat everything with ice.
> >
> > That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> > ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> > really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> > ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> > while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> > mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
LOL!
Man having to get out and take an axe or tire iron to the wheel well is
a riot isn't it.
Or being frozen solid to the driveway...
Mike
>
> Lon Stowell wrote:
> > Approximately 8/23/03 19:56, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
> >
> >> Nope, wrong stuff Bill.
> >>
> >> We have these pellets that come down and explode into super frozen water
> >> and coat everything with ice.
> >
> > That has *got* to be the most miserable driving conditions I've
> > ever ran into. Good old 20 below in Montana and 2 feet of snow
> > really isn't that bad. First time in Iowa I hit that freezing
> > ice pellets, thought I was gonna die before I got home. Even
> > while driving on the highway, that crap froze the shifter
> > mechanism in place on a Porsche yet...in 5th.
>
> It's worse when the fenderbergs lock the front wheels in place and
> you realize turning isn't going to happen. When that weather comes
> around I use an old racing trick and lightly spray the wheel well
> with ATF fluid. Yea.. not too good for the environment, maybe PAM
> or some such would work. (side note) Be careful with painted and plastic
> bits this trick was done on fiberglass racing bodies to keep the dirt
> track from sticking and weighting the car down and to make cleanup
> easier between races. We have some seriously sticky muck here. :(
>
> --
LOL!
Man having to get out and take an axe or tire iron to the wheel well is
a riot isn't it.
Or being frozen solid to the driveway...
Mike
08-24-2003, 05:01 PM
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Re: removing or relocating emergency brake handle
Approximately 8/24/03 13:25, Mike Romain uttered for posterity:
>
> Or being frozen solid to the driveway...
You could do worse. I parked a '66 SS427, bored to 466 with
posi rear on the dirt just before a freeze. It is somewhat
humbling to discover that even with that monstrous torque
and a clutch that the brakes cannot stop even at idle is
not able to break loose from having all 4 wheels frozen no
deeper than a coupla inches in midwest mud. Had to jack
the thing up to break the freeze before it would move
1 inch.
>
> Or being frozen solid to the driveway...
You could do worse. I parked a '66 SS427, bored to 466 with
posi rear on the dirt just before a freeze. It is somewhat
humbling to discover that even with that monstrous torque
and a clutch that the brakes cannot stop even at idle is
not able to break loose from having all 4 wheels frozen no
deeper than a coupla inches in midwest mud. Had to jack
the thing up to break the freeze before it would move
1 inch.