Re: Remote starters
 

I guess I have to agree
I installed a remote starter in my 01TJ when I first bought
it new. Yes I love it, but it does hack into the harness.
Just yesterday the fricken thing quit working properly
I went back to the installer and was lucky because
the warrenty was run out but they fixed/replaced it anyway.
The "brain" as they call it failed.
So I'm guesing these units are NOT robust enough
to withstand the harsh automotive enviroment
therefore I predict this second unit will eventually fail
again. And I do not intent to spend more money
if the warrenty won't take care of it.
BUT when it does work, They're great.

belowme wrote:
> I don't have specific experience on Jeep products. I am a GM dealer tech,
> and I can tell you that we remove a multitude of these things, for a variety
> of problems. Foremost, they tap into the ignition circuits with scotch
> locks and destroy the harness. Secondly, any security system that is
> factory installed has to pass through this aftermarket black box to make the
> car start, and the tiniest amount of voltage drop will cause the car to not
> start at all. I strongly recommend against the installation of these
> things. I live in New England, I know it is cold. Suck it up, go out and
> start your car in the driveway, come back in and enjoy a cup of joe, and go
> to your car in 15 minutes with the heat blowin.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>>I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in
>
> MN.
>
>>Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to
>
> cover
>
>>"basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
>>installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they
>
> said
>
>>$170. Ridiculous.
>>
>>Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe
>
> it
>
>>is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
>>electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems.
>
> Bit
>
>>nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some
>
> good
>
>>instructions, then maybe.
>>
>>Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine
>
> on
>
>>this?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Mat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Remote starters
 

I guess I have to agree
I installed a remote starter in my 01TJ when I first bought
it new. Yes I love it, but it does hack into the harness.
Just yesterday the fricken thing quit working properly
I went back to the installer and was lucky because
the warrenty was run out but they fixed/replaced it anyway.
The "brain" as they call it failed.
So I'm guesing these units are NOT robust enough
to withstand the harsh automotive enviroment
therefore I predict this second unit will eventually fail
again. And I do not intent to spend more money
if the warrenty won't take care of it.
BUT when it does work, They're great.

belowme wrote:
> I don't have specific experience on Jeep products. I am a GM dealer tech,
> and I can tell you that we remove a multitude of these things, for a variety
> of problems. Foremost, they tap into the ignition circuits with scotch
> locks and destroy the harness. Secondly, any security system that is
> factory installed has to pass through this aftermarket black box to make the
> car start, and the tiniest amount of voltage drop will cause the car to not
> start at all. I strongly recommend against the installation of these
> things. I live in New England, I know it is cold. Suck it up, go out and
> start your car in the driveway, come back in and enjoy a cup of joe, and go
> to your car in 15 minutes with the heat blowin.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>>I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in
>
> MN.
>
>>Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to
>
> cover
>
>>"basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
>>installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they
>
> said
>
>>$170. Ridiculous.
>>
>>Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe
>
> it
>
>>is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
>>electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems.
>
> Bit
>
>>nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some
>
> good
>
>>instructions, then maybe.
>>
>>Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine
>
> on
>
>>this?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Mat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Remote starters
 

I guess I have to agree
I installed a remote starter in my 01TJ when I first bought
it new. Yes I love it, but it does hack into the harness.
Just yesterday the fricken thing quit working properly
I went back to the installer and was lucky because
the warrenty was run out but they fixed/replaced it anyway.
The "brain" as they call it failed.
So I'm guesing these units are NOT robust enough
to withstand the harsh automotive enviroment
therefore I predict this second unit will eventually fail
again. And I do not intent to spend more money
if the warrenty won't take care of it.
BUT when it does work, They're great.

belowme wrote:
> I don't have specific experience on Jeep products. I am a GM dealer tech,
> and I can tell you that we remove a multitude of these things, for a variety
> of problems. Foremost, they tap into the ignition circuits with scotch
> locks and destroy the harness. Secondly, any security system that is
> factory installed has to pass through this aftermarket black box to make the
> car start, and the tiniest amount of voltage drop will cause the car to not
> start at all. I strongly recommend against the installation of these
> things. I live in New England, I know it is cold. Suck it up, go out and
> start your car in the driveway, come back in and enjoy a cup of joe, and go
> to your car in 15 minutes with the heat blowin.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> "Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
>>I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in
>
> MN.
>
>>Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to
>
> cover
>
>>"basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
>>installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they
>
> said
>
>>$170. Ridiculous.
>>
>>Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe
>
> it
>
>>is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
>>electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems.
>
> Bit
>
>>nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some
>
> good
>
>>instructions, then maybe.
>>
>>Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine
>
> on
>
>>this?
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Mat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Remote starters
 

When I was 16 and living in Alaska, I had a '74 VW bug. I developed a
system that worked great using a portable heater and a plant timer. I
had an extension cord out to my bug running the heater. I set the
timer to go off an hour before I needed to get in the car. It was nice
and toasty when I got in and the snow was completely melted off all
the windows.

Nathan
98 XJ

gloves help

"Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

When I was 16 and living in Alaska, I had a '74 VW bug. I developed a
system that worked great using a portable heater and a plant timer. I
had an extension cord out to my bug running the heater. I set the
timer to go off an hour before I needed to get in the car. It was nice
and toasty when I got in and the snow was completely melted off all
the windows.

Nathan
98 XJ

gloves help

"Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

When I was 16 and living in Alaska, I had a '74 VW bug. I developed a
system that worked great using a portable heater and a plant timer. I
had an extension cord out to my bug running the heater. I set the
timer to go off an hour before I needed to get in the car. It was nice
and toasty when I got in and the snow was completely melted off all
the windows.

Nathan
98 XJ

gloves help

"Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

Go to bulldogsecurity.com. The sell remote starters, along with
T-harnesses (no splicing) for almost every application imaginable.
I've installed 2 of their systems, with no complaints. Call their tech
guys to make sure you don't need the security bypass module.

Clem


"Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

Go to bulldogsecurity.com. The sell remote starters, along with
T-harnesses (no splicing) for almost every application imaginable.
I've installed 2 of their systems, with no complaints. Call their tech
guys to make sure you don't need the security bypass module.

Clem


"Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

Go to bulldogsecurity.com. The sell remote starters, along with
T-harnesses (no splicing) for almost every application imaginable.
I've installed 2 of their systems, with no complaints. Call their tech
guys to make sure you don't need the security bypass module.

Clem


"Mat and Suzy" <watson5737REMOVE@mn.rr.com> wrote in message news:<3bgsb.24387$M02.8695@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> I need one for my 2000 Cherokee. I hate getting into a cold car here in MN.
>
> Best Buy have a couple to choose from for ~$150. This is supposed to cover
> "basic installation". When pressed, their estimate for additional
> installation costs was $250-300. Then I tried another branch and they said
> $170. Ridiculous.
>
> Does anyone have experience of installing these things? I can't believe it
> is that difficult. I would describe myself as a semi-competent auto
> electician - plenty of experience of fitting radios and alarm systems. Bit
> nervous about touching wires related to the ignition, but if I had some good
> instructions, then maybe.
>
> Best Buy reckon the Jeep is a "nightmare" installation. Can anyone opine on
> this?
>
> TIA
>
> Mat

Re: Remote starters
 

Bummer. I hope it wasn't my local manufacturer:
http://viper.com/security/access/siren.asp That hasn't moved to China,
yet.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> I guess I have to agree
> I installed a remote starter in my 01TJ when I first bought
> it new. Yes I love it, but it does hack into the harness.
> Just yesterday the fricken thing quit working properly
> I went back to the installer and was lucky because
> the warrenty was run out but they fixed/replaced it anyway.
> The "brain" as they call it failed.
> So I'm guesing these units are NOT robust enough
> to withstand the harsh automotive enviroment
> therefore I predict this second unit will eventually fail
> again. And I do not intent to spend more money
> if the warrenty won't take care of it.
> BUT when it does work, They're great.