Re: rear differential shot, advice - 97 TJ - thanks
08-22-2003 | 10:27 AM
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Re: rear differential shot, advice - 97 TJ - thanks
$4,000 is a ludicrous estimate to rebuild what I assume is a Dana 35. For
that kind of money, Hell you could buy a Dana Rock 60! I'd look for a
salvage yard Dana 44 before I'd pop this kind of cash, particularly for a
POS D35.
Unfortunately the problem you have is all too common with these axles, it is
unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put under a Jeep. I can't say enough BAD
stuff about Dana 35s, and I speak from experience. I've had 2 vehicles with
them and both cratered despites good maintenance and non-abusive driving.
They're marginal even with stock tires, but put a set of big tires on it and
it's simply a matter of time before the thing starts to self destruct.
Despite everyone saying the axles shafts & c-clips are problems with them,
the most common failure on D35s seems to be the pinion seal. The pinion
bearings are too small and overheat, this takes out the seal so out comes
the lube and there go the bearings and eventually the R&P, etc.
Unless you drove this for a long time in a failed state, it's highly
unlikely the R&P or the axles have failed. The noise would have been
significant. Regardless, I wouldn't put a cent into that axle, get something
good. And, for Heavens Sake DO NOT put a locker in A Dana 35!!!! Also, don't
be fooled into putting one of those "Super 35" kits (locker & larger axle
shafts) into it either, it will fail again in 10k miles.
"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
news:3f45f8e5_2@nntp2.nac.net...
> In article <49e1b.50958$Ij4.32630@news2.central.***.net>,
> DougW <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> >dave wrote:
> >> Hello there ...
> >>
> >> I am guessing somebody out there knows way more than I do about Jeeps,
> >> and would appreciate any advice/suggestions:
> >>
> >> Have a 1997 TJ with about 42,000 miles on it. Had fluid leak around
> >> rear differential, and some clanking/vibration problems. Took it to
> >> the dealer, and they said they opened rear dif cover and found metal
> >> chunks,shavings. Differential ring/pinion is shot, they said. Parts,
> >> according to them, are $2,300 to replace all and probably $400 in
> >> labor. If needs new axles, that will be another $800 or so. With tax,
> >> it could hit $4,000, which seems somewhat absurd.
> >
> >It's not just absurd, it's frigging ridiculous.
> >Sadly typical for a stealership. Axles should be fine
> >unless the splines are damaged and that isn't likely.
> >R&P should cost about 6-800 including parts and while your
> >in there may as well step up to a locker.
>
> That's isn't some instant problem IMHO. I bet we didn't hear the whole
> story on this one. The story where they say, "Sir, all of your gear oil
> leaked out and" or "Sir your tires and gear ratio didn't match". I have
> 189600 miles on my YJ, replaced the gear oil and inspected the diff. The
> PO never had the gear oil replaced only added to it from what I could see
> the original gasket stuff was still there. Now I really want to keep an
> eye on the diffs after hearing this misfortune...
>
>
>
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that kind of money, Hell you could buy a Dana Rock 60! I'd look for a
salvage yard Dana 44 before I'd pop this kind of cash, particularly for a
POS D35.
Unfortunately the problem you have is all too common with these axles, it is
unquestionably THE WORST axle ever put under a Jeep. I can't say enough BAD
stuff about Dana 35s, and I speak from experience. I've had 2 vehicles with
them and both cratered despites good maintenance and non-abusive driving.
They're marginal even with stock tires, but put a set of big tires on it and
it's simply a matter of time before the thing starts to self destruct.
Despite everyone saying the axles shafts & c-clips are problems with them,
the most common failure on D35s seems to be the pinion seal. The pinion
bearings are too small and overheat, this takes out the seal so out comes
the lube and there go the bearings and eventually the R&P, etc.
Unless you drove this for a long time in a failed state, it's highly
unlikely the R&P or the axles have failed. The noise would have been
significant. Regardless, I wouldn't put a cent into that axle, get something
good. And, for Heavens Sake DO NOT put a locker in A Dana 35!!!! Also, don't
be fooled into putting one of those "Super 35" kits (locker & larger axle
shafts) into it either, it will fail again in 10k miles.
"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
news:3f45f8e5_2@nntp2.nac.net...
> In article <49e1b.50958$Ij4.32630@news2.central.***.net>,
> DougW <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote:
> >dave wrote:
> >> Hello there ...
> >>
> >> I am guessing somebody out there knows way more than I do about Jeeps,
> >> and would appreciate any advice/suggestions:
> >>
> >> Have a 1997 TJ with about 42,000 miles on it. Had fluid leak around
> >> rear differential, and some clanking/vibration problems. Took it to
> >> the dealer, and they said they opened rear dif cover and found metal
> >> chunks,shavings. Differential ring/pinion is shot, they said. Parts,
> >> according to them, are $2,300 to replace all and probably $400 in
> >> labor. If needs new axles, that will be another $800 or so. With tax,
> >> it could hit $4,000, which seems somewhat absurd.
> >
> >It's not just absurd, it's frigging ridiculous.
> >Sadly typical for a stealership. Axles should be fine
> >unless the splines are damaged and that isn't likely.
> >R&P should cost about 6-800 including parts and while your
> >in there may as well step up to a locker.
>
> That's isn't some instant problem IMHO. I bet we didn't hear the whole
> story on this one. The story where they say, "Sir, all of your gear oil
> leaked out and" or "Sir your tires and gear ratio didn't match". I have
> 189600 miles on my YJ, replaced the gear oil and inspected the diff. The
> PO never had the gear oil replaced only added to it from what I could see
> the original gasket stuff was still there. Now I really want to keep an
> eye on the diffs after hearing this misfortune...
>
>
>
> --
> <html><form><input type crash></form></html>
> nospam@zero.com Replace nospam with jetta to reply via e-mail
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