Hey Tom,
all of what you say id valid in every way. I know it.
I don't think I would hate an auto, I have just always enjoyed a stick so
much more, I have a "spirited" style of driving and the stick would be best
for (as you say) crawling, but hell, it's not like a little braking would
hurt it. I just like that with a stick I can get better performance for
passing and all.

I'm looking at autos, have driven them and they (it was an accident I SWEAR)
will bark the 31's no problem.
I think it willl be just fine but I didn't want to get one with an auto and
find out that they are notorious for some problem or another.

I have had 4WDs in both and truthfully, preferred the auto BUT that was in
pickemup trucks and Blazers, not a Jeep.

Everyone is great for all of the info they are giving.

Thanks :)

Kate


"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:4425ffc7_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
: Hi Kate:
:
: Why would you think you would hate the auto? Although the auto is not as
: "sporty" as a stick, it has many advantages. Because of the slippage in
the
: torque converter, it gives you a very low crawl ratio. Where a stick might
: stall out, the auto will just barely crawl the vehicle.
:
: Having said that, the stick has the advantage of more compression braking
: descending steep hills, but the auto still has a LOT of compression
braking.
:
: I like my auto.
:
: Tom
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:N9hVf.2438$sU4.210@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
: > Thanks Garth
: > I don't much like being a gimp, and the whole Jeep thing is so I can get
: out
: > and enjoy the things I want to.
: >
: > Hell, it's not forever. If It heals up - and I hate the auto - in a few
: > years, maybe I could trade it off LOL
: >
: > Kate
:
:

 

Hey Tom,
all of what you say id valid in every way. I know it.
I don't think I would hate an auto, I have just always enjoyed a stick so
much more, I have a "spirited" style of driving and the stick would be best
for (as you say) crawling, but hell, it's not like a little braking would
hurt it. I just like that with a stick I can get better performance for
passing and all.

I'm looking at autos, have driven them and they (it was an accident I SWEAR)
will bark the 31's no problem.
I think it willl be just fine but I didn't want to get one with an auto and
find out that they are notorious for some problem or another.

I have had 4WDs in both and truthfully, preferred the auto BUT that was in
pickemup trucks and Blazers, not a Jeep.

Everyone is great for all of the info they are giving.

Thanks :)

Kate


"mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:4425ffc7_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
: Hi Kate:
:
: Why would you think you would hate the auto? Although the auto is not as
: "sporty" as a stick, it has many advantages. Because of the slippage in
the
: torque converter, it gives you a very low crawl ratio. Where a stick might
: stall out, the auto will just barely crawl the vehicle.
:
: Having said that, the stick has the advantage of more compression braking
: descending steep hills, but the auto still has a LOT of compression
braking.
:
: I like my auto.
:
: Tom
:
: "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:N9hVf.2438$sU4.210@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
: > Thanks Garth
: > I don't much like being a gimp, and the whole Jeep thing is so I can get
: out
: > and enjoy the things I want to.
: >
: > Hell, it's not forever. If It heals up - and I hate the auto - in a few
: > years, maybe I could trade it off LOL
: >
: > Kate
:
:

 

Thanks Jenn...
I think that's what I'm going to do.
I'm not a youngin like you so I think it's best to get the auto. It's a good
transmission and will work great for most everything I know how to do AND I
know more about how to get one stuck in the mud than I do a stick LOL. I've
gotten stuck several times with an auto, that means I have experience LMAO.
I am such a dork.

What competition were you in? Did I miss something? Let me guess, you're an
.... umm.... cheerleader?
Umm.... in a marching band? Um.... professional trail guide? OH OHOH!
Jumping horses! Yea! That's it. That's my guess, you ride Jumpers.

Did I get it?

Kate


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:c17c22p7iqhpsnqtabh1i047uhpas4l0nb@4ax.com...
: By the way, hang in there on the tendon. Those are a bitch anytime. I
tore one
: lightly, thought all was healed months later, then retore it walking down
the steps
: in the gym, just hours before a national competition. Sucked big time to
try to
: compete with that hurting. If I had a bum left leg I sure would want an
auto!! I've
: come back from trips so tired its all I can do to get the clutch to the
floor.
: -jenn
:
:
:
: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:03:24 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com
(please ask)>
: wrote:
:
: >>Thanks Jenn...
: >>
: >>Like I said to Earle, the decision is prety much made after testing.
: >>I should learn my limitations, but doggone it I don't have to LIKE it.
: >>I DO prefer a standard but I guess I am just gonna be a gimp for awhile
and
: >>damned if I am going to let my husband drive all the time LOL
: >>
: >>Thanks for the words of encouragement.
: >>
: >>Kate
: >>
: >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
: >>news:sora221sf9ndc3nahrh55lo6alpeclu6ps@4ax.com. ..
: >>: Katie girl, there is NOTHING wrong with an auto.
: >>:
: >>: In fact many people prefer them. I am a die hard fan of sticks,
unless
: >>you drive in
: >>: the city a lot. However, that's probably because I learned on a stick
: >>(old Peugeot
: >>: column shift, and an old Mercedes). I didn't drive an auto until I
was
: >>nearly 18.
: >>: Autos certainly have their places IMO, and if I got another small car,
I
: >>would
: >>: certainly look at an auto for it...after all, that's what I normally
drive
: >>into
: >>: Portland and sit in traffic in. lol. We had this discussion in 99 on
the
: >>RAMJAW
: >>: Death Valley run. The vote was solidly split between those who
preferred
: >>autos and
: >>: those who preferred manuals. Each has its own advantages and
: >>disadvantages. Neither
: >>: one is markedly better off road IMO. Its how you drive, what you
drive,
: >>and what you
: >>: like. If the leg is an issue, get an auto. It will make your life
: >>easier. I know
: >>: my car isn't to bad when my legs are sore, but the jeep is awful. Of
: >>course it has a
: >>: much stiffer clutch too. Look hard at the kind of driving you do and
let
: >>that help
: >>: guide your decision. If I lived in a town with traffic (hey, this
place
: >>only has 500
: >>: people) and lights I would be more inclined to own an auto, just for
the
: >>convenience
: >>: and ease.
: >>: -jenn
: >>:
: >>:
: >>:
: >>: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:00:36 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com
: >>(please ask)>
: >>: wrote:
: >>:
: >>: >>
: >>: >>"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: >>: >>news:fz3Vf.1689$yn4.1680@bignews7.bellsouth.net. ..
: >>: >>: Those of you with Wranglers
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 1) Do you have an Automatic transmission or a Stick?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 2) What to you like best?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 3) What do you like Least?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 4) Would you change it if you could?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 5) Problems?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 6) Would you buy the same thing again if you had it to do over
again?
: >>: >>
: >>: >>7) Would an automatic transmission be so bad if there was a
physical
: >>reason
: >>: >>for having it?
: >>: >>For instance, I have a ruptured achillies tendon on my clutch foot
that
: >>: >>refuses to heal.
: >>: >>Personally I prefer a stick too BUT I don't know if I could drive
one
: >>all
: >>: >>the time.
: >>: >>
: >>: >>
: >>: >>: Thanks!
: >>: >>: Kate
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>
: >>

 

Thanks Jenn...
I think that's what I'm going to do.
I'm not a youngin like you so I think it's best to get the auto. It's a good
transmission and will work great for most everything I know how to do AND I
know more about how to get one stuck in the mud than I do a stick LOL. I've
gotten stuck several times with an auto, that means I have experience LMAO.
I am such a dork.

What competition were you in? Did I miss something? Let me guess, you're an
.... umm.... cheerleader?
Umm.... in a marching band? Um.... professional trail guide? OH OHOH!
Jumping horses! Yea! That's it. That's my guess, you ride Jumpers.

Did I get it?

Kate


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:c17c22p7iqhpsnqtabh1i047uhpas4l0nb@4ax.com...
: By the way, hang in there on the tendon. Those are a bitch anytime. I
tore one
: lightly, thought all was healed months later, then retore it walking down
the steps
: in the gym, just hours before a national competition. Sucked big time to
try to
: compete with that hurting. If I had a bum left leg I sure would want an
auto!! I've
: come back from trips so tired its all I can do to get the clutch to the
floor.
: -jenn
:
:
:
: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:03:24 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com
(please ask)>
: wrote:
:
: >>Thanks Jenn...
: >>
: >>Like I said to Earle, the decision is prety much made after testing.
: >>I should learn my limitations, but doggone it I don't have to LIKE it.
: >>I DO prefer a standard but I guess I am just gonna be a gimp for awhile
and
: >>damned if I am going to let my husband drive all the time LOL
: >>
: >>Thanks for the words of encouragement.
: >>
: >>Kate
: >>
: >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
: >>news:sora221sf9ndc3nahrh55lo6alpeclu6ps@4ax.com. ..
: >>: Katie girl, there is NOTHING wrong with an auto.
: >>:
: >>: In fact many people prefer them. I am a die hard fan of sticks,
unless
: >>you drive in
: >>: the city a lot. However, that's probably because I learned on a stick
: >>(old Peugeot
: >>: column shift, and an old Mercedes). I didn't drive an auto until I
was
: >>nearly 18.
: >>: Autos certainly have their places IMO, and if I got another small car,
I
: >>would
: >>: certainly look at an auto for it...after all, that's what I normally
drive
: >>into
: >>: Portland and sit in traffic in. lol. We had this discussion in 99 on
the
: >>RAMJAW
: >>: Death Valley run. The vote was solidly split between those who
preferred
: >>autos and
: >>: those who preferred manuals. Each has its own advantages and
: >>disadvantages. Neither
: >>: one is markedly better off road IMO. Its how you drive, what you
drive,
: >>and what you
: >>: like. If the leg is an issue, get an auto. It will make your life
: >>easier. I know
: >>: my car isn't to bad when my legs are sore, but the jeep is awful. Of
: >>course it has a
: >>: much stiffer clutch too. Look hard at the kind of driving you do and
let
: >>that help
: >>: guide your decision. If I lived in a town with traffic (hey, this
place
: >>only has 500
: >>: people) and lights I would be more inclined to own an auto, just for
the
: >>convenience
: >>: and ease.
: >>: -jenn
: >>:
: >>:
: >>:
: >>: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:00:36 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com
: >>(please ask)>
: >>: wrote:
: >>:
: >>: >>
: >>: >>"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: >>: >>news:fz3Vf.1689$yn4.1680@bignews7.bellsouth.net. ..
: >>: >>: Those of you with Wranglers
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 1) Do you have an Automatic transmission or a Stick?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 2) What to you like best?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 3) What do you like Least?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 4) Would you change it if you could?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 5) Problems?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 6) Would you buy the same thing again if you had it to do over
again?
: >>: >>
: >>: >>7) Would an automatic transmission be so bad if there was a
physical
: >>reason
: >>: >>for having it?
: >>: >>For instance, I have a ruptured achillies tendon on my clutch foot
that
: >>: >>refuses to heal.
: >>: >>Personally I prefer a stick too BUT I don't know if I could drive
one
: >>all
: >>: >>the time.
: >>: >>
: >>: >>
: >>: >>: Thanks!
: >>: >>: Kate
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>
: >>

 

Thanks Jenn...
I think that's what I'm going to do.
I'm not a youngin like you so I think it's best to get the auto. It's a good
transmission and will work great for most everything I know how to do AND I
know more about how to get one stuck in the mud than I do a stick LOL. I've
gotten stuck several times with an auto, that means I have experience LMAO.
I am such a dork.

What competition were you in? Did I miss something? Let me guess, you're an
.... umm.... cheerleader?
Umm.... in a marching band? Um.... professional trail guide? OH OHOH!
Jumping horses! Yea! That's it. That's my guess, you ride Jumpers.

Did I get it?

Kate


"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:c17c22p7iqhpsnqtabh1i047uhpas4l0nb@4ax.com...
: By the way, hang in there on the tendon. Those are a bitch anytime. I
tore one
: lightly, thought all was healed months later, then retore it walking down
the steps
: in the gym, just hours before a national competition. Sucked big time to
try to
: compete with that hurting. If I had a bum left leg I sure would want an
auto!! I've
: come back from trips so tired its all I can do to get the clutch to the
floor.
: -jenn
:
:
:
: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:03:24 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com
(please ask)>
: wrote:
:
: >>Thanks Jenn...
: >>
: >>Like I said to Earle, the decision is prety much made after testing.
: >>I should learn my limitations, but doggone it I don't have to LIKE it.
: >>I DO prefer a standard but I guess I am just gonna be a gimp for awhile
and
: >>damned if I am going to let my husband drive all the time LOL
: >>
: >>Thanks for the words of encouragement.
: >>
: >>Kate
: >>
: >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
: >>news:sora221sf9ndc3nahrh55lo6alpeclu6ps@4ax.com. ..
: >>: Katie girl, there is NOTHING wrong with an auto.
: >>:
: >>: In fact many people prefer them. I am a die hard fan of sticks,
unless
: >>you drive in
: >>: the city a lot. However, that's probably because I learned on a stick
: >>(old Peugeot
: >>: column shift, and an old Mercedes). I didn't drive an auto until I
was
: >>nearly 18.
: >>: Autos certainly have their places IMO, and if I got another small car,
I
: >>would
: >>: certainly look at an auto for it...after all, that's what I normally
drive
: >>into
: >>: Portland and sit in traffic in. lol. We had this discussion in 99 on
the
: >>RAMJAW
: >>: Death Valley run. The vote was solidly split between those who
preferred
: >>autos and
: >>: those who preferred manuals. Each has its own advantages and
: >>disadvantages. Neither
: >>: one is markedly better off road IMO. Its how you drive, what you
drive,
: >>and what you
: >>: like. If the leg is an issue, get an auto. It will make your life
: >>easier. I know
: >>: my car isn't to bad when my legs are sore, but the jeep is awful. Of
: >>course it has a
: >>: much stiffer clutch too. Look hard at the kind of driving you do and
let
: >>that help
: >>: guide your decision. If I lived in a town with traffic (hey, this
place
: >>only has 500
: >>: people) and lights I would be more inclined to own an auto, just for
the
: >>convenience
: >>: and ease.
: >>: -jenn
: >>:
: >>:
: >>:
: >>: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 07:00:36 -0600, "KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com
: >>(please ask)>
: >>: wrote:
: >>:
: >>: >>
: >>: >>"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: >>: >>news:fz3Vf.1689$yn4.1680@bignews7.bellsouth.net. ..
: >>: >>: Those of you with Wranglers
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 1) Do you have an Automatic transmission or a Stick?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 2) What to you like best?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 3) What do you like Least?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 4) Would you change it if you could?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 5) Problems?
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>: 6) Would you buy the same thing again if you had it to do over
again?
: >>: >>
: >>: >>7) Would an automatic transmission be so bad if there was a
physical
: >>reason
: >>: >>for having it?
: >>: >>For instance, I have a ruptured achillies tendon on my clutch foot
that
: >>: >>refuses to heal.
: >>: >>Personally I prefer a stick too BUT I don't know if I could drive
one
: >>all
: >>: >>the time.
: >>: >>
: >>: >>
: >>: >>: Thanks!
: >>: >>: Kate
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>:
: >>: >>
: >>

 

You are an angel... thank you.
And for that consideration I will feed you up and give you a free bunk for
the night, how's that?


"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:EfKdnXRaU8R0gLvZRVn-sw@comcast.com...
: Kate, you can take a spin in my stang 'vert when I roll thru your state on
: my way VA next month..
:
: Carl
:
:
: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:lGoVf.3021$KC3.2168@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
: >
: > "mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
: > news:442600a9_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
: > : So Kate, what are you shopping for. Another Libby or a Wrangler?
: > :
: > : Tom
: >
: >
: > Well...
: > A Wrangler.
: >
: > Love the Libby, but I NEED to get the top off of something soon or I am
: > going to lose my mind.
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
:

 

You are an angel... thank you.
And for that consideration I will feed you up and give you a free bunk for
the night, how's that?


"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:EfKdnXRaU8R0gLvZRVn-sw@comcast.com...
: Kate, you can take a spin in my stang 'vert when I roll thru your state on
: my way VA next month..
:
: Carl
:
:
: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:lGoVf.3021$KC3.2168@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
: >
: > "mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
: > news:442600a9_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
: > : So Kate, what are you shopping for. Another Libby or a Wrangler?
: > :
: > : Tom
: >
: >
: > Well...
: > A Wrangler.
: >
: > Love the Libby, but I NEED to get the top off of something soon or I am
: > going to lose my mind.
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
:

 

You are an angel... thank you.
And for that consideration I will feed you up and give you a free bunk for
the night, how's that?


"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:EfKdnXRaU8R0gLvZRVn-sw@comcast.com...
: Kate, you can take a spin in my stang 'vert when I roll thru your state on
: my way VA next month..
:
: Carl
:
:
: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:lGoVf.3021$KC3.2168@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
: >
: > "mabar" <xyzz4569@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
: > news:442600a9_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
: > : So Kate, what are you shopping for. Another Libby or a Wrangler?
: > :
: > : Tom
: >
: >
: > Well...
: > A Wrangler.
: >
: > Love the Libby, but I NEED to get the top off of something soon or I am
: > going to lose my mind.
: >
: > Kate
: >
: >
:
:

 

Ya know what I want? A dead pedal.
hubs says he will put one in for me right away.

I miss that left foot brace.

I'm having trouble seeing what you are referring to in the photo , could you
'splain it to me?

Thanks.

Kate

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44261CB8.D6329239@***.net...
: Hi Kate,
: Nope, mine is just a bolt that sticks up, and I didn't thing it
: looked good, but sure works for bouncing over rocks, keeping a steady,
: just above idle, roll. I've got the stock one around some place, though.
: God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Kate wrote:
: >
: > Is this your Jeep Bill?

 

Ya know what I want? A dead pedal.
hubs says he will put one in for me right away.

I miss that left foot brace.

I'm having trouble seeing what you are referring to in the photo , could you
'splain it to me?

Thanks.

Kate

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44261CB8.D6329239@***.net...
: Hi Kate,
: Nope, mine is just a bolt that sticks up, and I didn't thing it
: looked good, but sure works for bouncing over rocks, keeping a steady,
: just above idle, roll. I've got the stock one around some place, though.
: God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: Kate wrote:
: >
: > Is this your Jeep Bill?