Please pass nationally
08-22-2004 | 05:10 PM
#271
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
He never lied. He never said he was under fire. He didn't write up the
report.
Brian wrote:
> I wonder if the SBVFT have stopped using as a spokesperson the one who
> was caught lying?
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html>
>
> Registration may be necessary for this site, but it's a pretty detailed
> and honest assessment of 36-year old events, for those who are inclined
> to get worked up about it.
>
> Just goes to show that (1) stuff can be very difficult to comprehend and
> retain in the heat of battle and (2) wading into politics invariably
> involves getting covered in s**t.
>
> B
>
report.
Brian wrote:
> I wonder if the SBVFT have stopped using as a spokesperson the one who
> was caught lying?
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html>
>
> Registration may be necessary for this site, but it's a pretty detailed
> and honest assessment of 36-year old events, for those who are inclined
> to get worked up about it.
>
> Just goes to show that (1) stuff can be very difficult to comprehend and
> retain in the heat of battle and (2) wading into politics invariably
> involves getting covered in s**t.
>
> B
>
08-22-2004 | 05:10 PM
#272
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
He never lied. He never said he was under fire. He didn't write up the
report.
Brian wrote:
> I wonder if the SBVFT have stopped using as a spokesperson the one who
> was caught lying?
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html>
>
> Registration may be necessary for this site, but it's a pretty detailed
> and honest assessment of 36-year old events, for those who are inclined
> to get worked up about it.
>
> Just goes to show that (1) stuff can be very difficult to comprehend and
> retain in the heat of battle and (2) wading into politics invariably
> involves getting covered in s**t.
>
> B
>
report.
Brian wrote:
> I wonder if the SBVFT have stopped using as a spokesperson the one who
> was caught lying?
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html>
>
> Registration may be necessary for this site, but it's a pretty detailed
> and honest assessment of 36-year old events, for those who are inclined
> to get worked up about it.
>
> Just goes to show that (1) stuff can be very difficult to comprehend and
> retain in the heat of battle and (2) wading into politics invariably
> involves getting covered in s**t.
>
> B
>
08-22-2004 | 05:10 PM
#273
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
He never lied. He never said he was under fire. He didn't write up the
report.
Brian wrote:
> I wonder if the SBVFT have stopped using as a spokesperson the one who
> was caught lying?
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html>
>
> Registration may be necessary for this site, but it's a pretty detailed
> and honest assessment of 36-year old events, for those who are inclined
> to get worked up about it.
>
> Just goes to show that (1) stuff can be very difficult to comprehend and
> retain in the heat of battle and (2) wading into politics invariably
> involves getting covered in s**t.
>
> B
>
report.
Brian wrote:
> I wonder if the SBVFT have stopped using as a spokesperson the one who
> was caught lying?
>
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html>
>
> Registration may be necessary for this site, but it's a pretty detailed
> and honest assessment of 36-year old events, for those who are inclined
> to get worked up about it.
>
> Just goes to show that (1) stuff can be very difficult to comprehend and
> retain in the heat of battle and (2) wading into politics invariably
> involves getting covered in s**t.
>
> B
>
08-22-2004 | 06:14 PM
#274
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Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
08-22-2004 | 06:14 PM
#275
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
08-22-2004 | 06:14 PM
#276
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
08-22-2004 | 06:14 PM
#277
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
time in the next quarter...old news...
"Jeff" <nothing@here.com> wrote in message
news:nothing-1E887B.08060622082004@news.ispnews.com...
> In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
> > Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> > Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> > time. They just called it TDY.
> > I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> > Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> > you a man, girlie boy.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jeff wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was
a
> > > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard
to
> > > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about
him.
> > > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how
to
> > > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to
the
> > > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade
on
> > > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently
blew
> > > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then
got
> > > out early to attend Harvard.
> > >
> > > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's
not
> > > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly
asked
> > > not to be sent there.
>
> Bill:
>
> Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
> missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
> privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
> matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.
>
> Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
> Here is his request to be discharged:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif
>
> Here is his discharge record:
>
> http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif
>
> Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
> has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."
>
> Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
> available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
> superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
> because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
> of report."
>
> Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
> discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
> service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
> yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
> for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.
>
08-22-2004 | 06:52 PM
#278
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
In article <XU8Wc.13707$Nk4.6483040@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >,
"trailboss" <trailboss@optonline.net> wrote:
> He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
> time in the next quarter...old news...
No, you are wrong. Its true that Bush was participating in a Senate
campaign in Alabama, but he was not given permission to make up the
time. He requested a transfer to a unit in Alabama:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc7.gif
His request was denied:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif
He then made a request for a transfer to another unit:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc2.gif
That request was approved and he was told to report to Lt. Col. William
Turnipseed:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc11.gif
However, Turnipseed has said that Bush never reported. Bush's attendance
and pay records show no activity for Bush while he was in Alabama other
than attending a dentist exam.
You are also correct that this is old news. Just as it is old news that
Bush had his flying privileges revoked for failing to show up for a
physical. It is also old news that he lied in his autobiography when he
wrote that he flew with his unit for "several years" when he actually
only flew for 22 months. None of this is new, which is why I am
surprised that people like Bill ------ refuse to believe it.
"trailboss" <trailboss@optonline.net> wrote:
> He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
> time in the next quarter...old news...
No, you are wrong. Its true that Bush was participating in a Senate
campaign in Alabama, but he was not given permission to make up the
time. He requested a transfer to a unit in Alabama:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc7.gif
His request was denied:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif
He then made a request for a transfer to another unit:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc2.gif
That request was approved and he was told to report to Lt. Col. William
Turnipseed:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc11.gif
However, Turnipseed has said that Bush never reported. Bush's attendance
and pay records show no activity for Bush while he was in Alabama other
than attending a dentist exam.
You are also correct that this is old news. Just as it is old news that
Bush had his flying privileges revoked for failing to show up for a
physical. It is also old news that he lied in his autobiography when he
wrote that he flew with his unit for "several years" when he actually
only flew for 22 months. None of this is new, which is why I am
surprised that people like Bill ------ refuse to believe it.
08-22-2004 | 06:52 PM
#279
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
In article <XU8Wc.13707$Nk4.6483040@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >,
"trailboss" <trailboss@optonline.net> wrote:
> He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
> time in the next quarter...old news...
No, you are wrong. Its true that Bush was participating in a Senate
campaign in Alabama, but he was not given permission to make up the
time. He requested a transfer to a unit in Alabama:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc7.gif
His request was denied:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif
He then made a request for a transfer to another unit:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc2.gif
That request was approved and he was told to report to Lt. Col. William
Turnipseed:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc11.gif
However, Turnipseed has said that Bush never reported. Bush's attendance
and pay records show no activity for Bush while he was in Alabama other
than attending a dentist exam.
You are also correct that this is old news. Just as it is old news that
Bush had his flying privileges revoked for failing to show up for a
physical. It is also old news that he lied in his autobiography when he
wrote that he flew with his unit for "several years" when he actually
only flew for 22 months. None of this is new, which is why I am
surprised that people like Bill ------ refuse to believe it.
"trailboss" <trailboss@optonline.net> wrote:
> He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
> time in the next quarter...old news...
No, you are wrong. Its true that Bush was participating in a Senate
campaign in Alabama, but he was not given permission to make up the
time. He requested a transfer to a unit in Alabama:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc7.gif
His request was denied:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif
He then made a request for a transfer to another unit:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc2.gif
That request was approved and he was told to report to Lt. Col. William
Turnipseed:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc11.gif
However, Turnipseed has said that Bush never reported. Bush's attendance
and pay records show no activity for Bush while he was in Alabama other
than attending a dentist exam.
You are also correct that this is old news. Just as it is old news that
Bush had his flying privileges revoked for failing to show up for a
physical. It is also old news that he lied in his autobiography when he
wrote that he flew with his unit for "several years" when he actually
only flew for 22 months. None of this is new, which is why I am
surprised that people like Bill ------ refuse to believe it.
08-22-2004 | 06:52 PM
#280
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Please pass nationally
In article <XU8Wc.13707$Nk4.6483040@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >,
"trailboss" <trailboss@optonline.net> wrote:
> He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
> time in the next quarter...old news...
No, you are wrong. Its true that Bush was participating in a Senate
campaign in Alabama, but he was not given permission to make up the
time. He requested a transfer to a unit in Alabama:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc7.gif
His request was denied:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif
He then made a request for a transfer to another unit:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc2.gif
That request was approved and he was told to report to Lt. Col. William
Turnipseed:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc11.gif
However, Turnipseed has said that Bush never reported. Bush's attendance
and pay records show no activity for Bush while he was in Alabama other
than attending a dentist exam.
You are also correct that this is old news. Just as it is old news that
Bush had his flying privileges revoked for failing to show up for a
physical. It is also old news that he lied in his autobiography when he
wrote that he flew with his unit for "several years" when he actually
only flew for 22 months. None of this is new, which is why I am
surprised that people like Bill ------ refuse to believe it.
"trailboss" <trailboss@optonline.net> wrote:
> He was campaigning for senate at that time, with permission to make up the
> time in the next quarter...old news...
No, you are wrong. Its true that Bush was participating in a Senate
campaign in Alabama, but he was not given permission to make up the
time. He requested a transfer to a unit in Alabama:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc7.gif
His request was denied:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif
He then made a request for a transfer to another unit:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc2.gif
That request was approved and he was told to report to Lt. Col. William
Turnipseed:
http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc11.gif
However, Turnipseed has said that Bush never reported. Bush's attendance
and pay records show no activity for Bush while he was in Alabama other
than attending a dentist exam.
You are also correct that this is old news. Just as it is old news that
Bush had his flying privileges revoked for failing to show up for a
physical. It is also old news that he lied in his autobiography when he
wrote that he flew with his unit for "several years" when he actually
only flew for 22 months. None of this is new, which is why I am
surprised that people like Bill ------ refuse to believe it.