In article <412819C5.F8633AB4@***.net>,
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:

> Geez, like me he had so many physicals.
> Several of my friends while we were in the ARMY when to school full
> time. They just called it TDY.
> I think you know all his payroll records are accounted for.
> Maybe if you would enlisted, it may educate you, along with making
> you a man, girlie boy.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff wrote:
> >
> > Bill:
> >
> > You really are a true believer, aren't you? Maybe all Bush needed was a
> > trip to the doctor. However, he never made that trip. Its really hard to
> > believe that you support Bush so strongly, yet know so little about him.
> > In reality, he represents everything you hate. In his own words, he
> > went into the guard to avoid Vietnam ("I was not prepared to shoot my
> > eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I
> > willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to
> > fly airplanes." -- GWB, 1990). His father's connections got him to the
> > top of the line for the Air National Guard even though on his
> > qualification tests he scored 25%, the lowest possible passing grade on
> > the pilot aptitude portion. Then, while in the Guard he apparently blew
> > off a significant portion of his obligation (at least there are no
> > records to support his doing so), he got himself grounded, and then got
> > out early to attend Harvard.
> >
> > You can try to change the subject to my military service, but that's not
> > going to change the fact that Bush lied when he said he flew for "many
> > years" when he only flew for 22 months. Its not going to change the
> > fact that Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam while Bush explicitly asked
> > not to be sent there.

Bill:

Are you really this misinformed? Do you even read newspapers? Bush
missed his required physical. He got grounded and never had his flight
privileges reinstated. It doesn't matter how many physical YOU had, it
matters whether Bush had his required physical, and he didn't.

Next, Bush was not TDY when he went to Harvard. He was discharged early.
Here is his request to be discharged:

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/Doc20.gif

Here is his discharge record:

http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/ANG22.gif

Note where is says, "Office has a six year service obligation ... and
has completed 5 years, 4 months, and 5 days toward this obligation."

Bush says all of his payroll records have been released. However, the
available records show no service during May - September of 1972. Bush's
superior officers were unable to complete his annual evaluation for 1972
because, "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period
of report."

Bill, were you able to skip 5 months of your service, and then get
discharged 8 months early? I know, I know. If I had been in the
service, I would understand how you can blow off your obligations. Yeah,
yeah, I'm just a girly man. But, Bush stilled lied when he said he flew
for "many years" when he only flew for 22 months.

 

Matt Osborn proclaimed:

>
> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
> contrary, it would be welcome.

Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
the past day.

 

Matt Osborn proclaimed:

>
> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
> contrary, it would be welcome.

Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
the past day.

 

Matt Osborn proclaimed:

>
> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
> contrary, it would be welcome.

Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
the past day.

 

Matt Osborn proclaimed:

>
> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
> contrary, it would be welcome.

Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
the past day.

 

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:18:48 GMT, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

>Matt Osborn proclaimed:
>
>>
>> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
>> contrary, it would be welcome.
>
> Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
> the past day.

The gentleman in question was a Colonel in the Army and a prisoner of
war in Viet Nam. He quit his activities as a Bush volunteer to avoid
conflict with our campaign finance laws.

Do you have some point to make concerning Col. Ken Cordier's
integrity?

 

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:18:48 GMT, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

>Matt Osborn proclaimed:
>
>>
>> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
>> contrary, it would be welcome.
>
> Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
> the past day.

The gentleman in question was a Colonel in the Army and a prisoner of
war in Viet Nam. He quit his activities as a Bush volunteer to avoid
conflict with our campaign finance laws.

Do you have some point to make concerning Col. Ken Cordier's
integrity?

 

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:18:48 GMT, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

>Matt Osborn proclaimed:
>
>>
>> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
>> contrary, it would be welcome.
>
> Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
> the past day.

The gentleman in question was a Colonel in the Army and a prisoner of
war in Viet Nam. He quit his activities as a Bush volunteer to avoid
conflict with our campaign finance laws.

Do you have some point to make concerning Col. Ken Cordier's
integrity?

 

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:18:48 GMT, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:

>Matt Osborn proclaimed:
>
>>
>> None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
>> contrary, it would be welcome.
>
> Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
> the past day.

The gentleman in question was a Colonel in the Army and a prisoner of
war in Viet Nam. He quit his activities as a Bush volunteer to avoid
conflict with our campaign finance laws.

Do you have some point to make concerning Col. Ken Cordier's
integrity?

 

Matt wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:18:48 GMT, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Matt Osborn proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>None of them were caught lying. If you have some evidence to the
>>>contrary, it would be welcome.
>>
>> Seems good enough for the president to fire one of them just within
>> the past day.
>
>
> The gentleman in question was a Colonel in the Army and a prisoner of
> war in Viet Nam. He quit his activities as a Bush volunteer to avoid
> conflict with our campaign finance laws.
>
> Do you have some point to make concerning Col. Ken Cordier's
> integrity?
>

Matt, I think you're wasting your time with this guy. He does not know
enough facts to create a serious debate, and he's obviously basing his
points of view on rumor rather than fact based current event reports.

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