Plain cast rings bad?
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
Hi Bill,
Many of your questions may be answered at:
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
just want it to seat fast and sell it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Many of your questions may be answered at:
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
just want it to seat fast and sell it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
#3
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
Hi Bill,
Many of your questions may be answered at:
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
just want it to seat fast and sell it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Many of your questions may be answered at:
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
just want it to seat fast and sell it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
#4
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
Hi Bill,
Many of your questions may be answered at:
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
just want it to seat fast and sell it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
Many of your questions may be answered at:
http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
just want it to seat fast and sell it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
Nice, thanks.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Bill,
> Many of your questions may be answered at:
> http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
> just want it to seat fast and sell it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> > series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
> >
> > Recommendations on rings?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:403FD298.11338E0C@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Many of your questions may be answered at:
> http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
> just want it to seat fast and sell it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> > series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
> >
> > Recommendations on rings?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
Nice, thanks.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:403FD298.11338E0C@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Many of your questions may be answered at:
> http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
> just want it to seat fast and sell it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> > series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
> >
> > Recommendations on rings?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:403FD298.11338E0C@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Many of your questions may be answered at:
> http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
> just want it to seat fast and sell it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> > series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
> >
> > Recommendations on rings?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
Nice, thanks.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:403FD298.11338E0C@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Many of your questions may be answered at:
> http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
> just want it to seat fast and sell it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> > series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
> >
> > Recommendations on rings?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:403FD298.11338E0C@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Many of your questions may be answered at:
> http://www.hastingsmfg.com/piston_rings.htm Cast rings are OK if you
> just want it to seat fast and sell it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> > series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
> >
> > Recommendations on rings?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
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> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
Plain cast rings are fine for most passenger car applications that don't see
high temperature, RPM, or dirt conditions for excessive periods of time. I
tend to consider trucks, tow vehicles, or anything that sees a lot of off
road duty a step above this. This usually dictates moly coated rings. Moly
is nice because it retains oil in its porous surfaces. This will reduce wear
and scuffing in the right application. Chrome is for severe dust and dirt
conditions, and isn't really recommended for normal car/truck use anymore.
Moly is more than likely the best choice for a typical off road vehicle,
including yours. The rings are still cast or ductile iron, but they have the
moly coating on them. Top of the line moly rings will be plasma coated, but
these are quite a bit more expensive.
Remember that whatever rings you decide to use, you need to do this before
you have the block bored and honed. This is because each one of these ring
types needs a different hone finish in order for the rings to seat properly.
If the bores are honed properly, the moly ring will seal the fastest of the
three, and chrome will take the longest.
One other thing to watch for is oil ring tension. You want to make sure you
get standard tension oil rings. Racers use low tension oil rings in order to
reduce friction, but these do not last nearly as long, and will exhibit more
blowby under daily driving conditions.
If you want to get real fancy (be prepared to pay for them), you can go with
the gapless second rings that Total Seal and Childs & Albert make. These
rings eliminate the ring end gap on the second compression ring to reduce
blowby. They are good for a few horses, but like I said, they are pricey.
The biggest advantage to them is that as the bores wear the ring end gaps
get larger which increases blowby. the gapless rings will remain gapless
even as the engine wears.
Chris
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
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> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
Plain cast rings are fine for most passenger car applications that don't see
high temperature, RPM, or dirt conditions for excessive periods of time. I
tend to consider trucks, tow vehicles, or anything that sees a lot of off
road duty a step above this. This usually dictates moly coated rings. Moly
is nice because it retains oil in its porous surfaces. This will reduce wear
and scuffing in the right application. Chrome is for severe dust and dirt
conditions, and isn't really recommended for normal car/truck use anymore.
Moly is more than likely the best choice for a typical off road vehicle,
including yours. The rings are still cast or ductile iron, but they have the
moly coating on them. Top of the line moly rings will be plasma coated, but
these are quite a bit more expensive.
Remember that whatever rings you decide to use, you need to do this before
you have the block bored and honed. This is because each one of these ring
types needs a different hone finish in order for the rings to seat properly.
If the bores are honed properly, the moly ring will seal the fastest of the
three, and chrome will take the longest.
One other thing to watch for is oil ring tension. You want to make sure you
get standard tension oil rings. Racers use low tension oil rings in order to
reduce friction, but these do not last nearly as long, and will exhibit more
blowby under daily driving conditions.
If you want to get real fancy (be prepared to pay for them), you can go with
the gapless second rings that Total Seal and Childs & Albert make. These
rings eliminate the ring end gap on the second compression ring to reduce
blowby. They are good for a few horses, but like I said, they are pricey.
The biggest advantage to them is that as the bores wear the ring end gaps
get larger which increases blowby. the gapless rings will remain gapless
even as the engine wears.
Chris
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Re: Plain cast rings bad?
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1oidg$1kustu$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I've gotten several prices on rings from 29.99 (plain cast) to 39.99 (cp
> series) to 55.00 to 65.00.
>
> Recommendations on rings?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>
Plain cast rings are fine for most passenger car applications that don't see
high temperature, RPM, or dirt conditions for excessive periods of time. I
tend to consider trucks, tow vehicles, or anything that sees a lot of off
road duty a step above this. This usually dictates moly coated rings. Moly
is nice because it retains oil in its porous surfaces. This will reduce wear
and scuffing in the right application. Chrome is for severe dust and dirt
conditions, and isn't really recommended for normal car/truck use anymore.
Moly is more than likely the best choice for a typical off road vehicle,
including yours. The rings are still cast or ductile iron, but they have the
moly coating on them. Top of the line moly rings will be plasma coated, but
these are quite a bit more expensive.
Remember that whatever rings you decide to use, you need to do this before
you have the block bored and honed. This is because each one of these ring
types needs a different hone finish in order for the rings to seat properly.
If the bores are honed properly, the moly ring will seal the fastest of the
three, and chrome will take the longest.
One other thing to watch for is oil ring tension. You want to make sure you
get standard tension oil rings. Racers use low tension oil rings in order to
reduce friction, but these do not last nearly as long, and will exhibit more
blowby under daily driving conditions.
If you want to get real fancy (be prepared to pay for them), you can go with
the gapless second rings that Total Seal and Childs & Albert make. These
rings eliminate the ring end gap on the second compression ring to reduce
blowby. They are good for a few horses, but like I said, they are pricey.
The biggest advantage to them is that as the bores wear the ring end gaps
get larger which increases blowby. the gapless rings will remain gapless
even as the engine wears.
Chris