Matt Osborn

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:13:21 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>Some people do not want that sort of burden and there is definitely an
>argument to be made for the termination of a pregnancy that has no chance of
>providing an eventually useful member of society...
<snip>

What is useful to society isn't known until it's impact has been felt.
Even if the child may not live what you or I might regard as a
'useful' life, the child's impact may be very useful to society.

This can happen through medical research, through the child's effect
upon its relatives and its neighbors or perhaps, even something the
child accomplishes on its own.

Not everything can be known in advance...


-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

Matt Osborn

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 04:13:21 GMT, "Grumman-581"
<grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>Some people do not want that sort of burden and there is definitely an
>argument to be made for the termination of a pregnancy that has no chance of
>providing an eventually useful member of society...
<snip>

What is useful to society isn't known until it's impact has been felt.
Even if the child may not live what you or I might regard as a
'useful' life, the child's impact may be very useful to society.

This can happen through medical research, through the child's effect
upon its relatives and its neighbors or perhaps, even something the
child accomplishes on its own.

Not everything can be known in advance...


-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> to me there is no greater disgrace then killing a child. i do not encourage
> ANYONE to blow up anything......but when i hear of an abortion clinic being
> destroyed, i smile inside. its just how i feel, and you cant help your
> feelings. this isnt the same as participating or inciting others to peform
> these acts.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> to me there is no greater disgrace then killing a child. i do not encourage
> ANYONE to blow up anything......but when i hear of an abortion clinic being
> destroyed, i smile inside. its just how i feel, and you cant help your
> feelings. this isnt the same as participating or inciting others to peform
> these acts.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> to me there is no greater disgrace then killing a child. i do not encourage
> ANYONE to blow up anything......but when i hear of an abortion clinic being
> destroyed, i smile inside. its just how i feel, and you cant help your
> feelings. this isnt the same as participating or inciting others to peform
> these acts.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Matt Macchiarolo

Kinda like some Muslims throughout the world that had nothing to do with
9/11 but who smiled inside.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:444EAA32.F9BB4CEB@***.net...
> Ditto.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>>
>> to me there is no greater disgrace then killing a child. i do not
>> encourage
>> ANYONE to blow up anything......but when i hear of an abortion clinic
>> being
>> destroyed, i smile inside. its just how i feel, and you cant help your
>> feelings. this isnt the same as participating or inciting others to
>> peform
>> these acts.
>>
>> --
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://InlineDiesel.com
>> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
>> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Matt Macchiarolo

Kinda like some Muslims throughout the world that had nothing to do with
9/11 but who smiled inside.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:444EAA32.F9BB4CEB@***.net...
> Ditto.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>>
>> to me there is no greater disgrace then killing a child. i do not
>> encourage
>> ANYONE to blow up anything......but when i hear of an abortion clinic
>> being
>> destroyed, i smile inside. its just how i feel, and you cant help your
>> feelings. this isnt the same as participating or inciting others to
>> peform
>> these acts.
>>
>> --
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://InlineDiesel.com
>> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
>> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Matt Macchiarolo

Kinda like some Muslims throughout the world that had nothing to do with
9/11 but who smiled inside.

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:444EAA32.F9BB4CEB@***.net...
> Ditto.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>>
>> to me there is no greater disgrace then killing a child. i do not
>> encourage
>> ANYONE to blow up anything......but when i hear of an abortion clinic
>> being
>> destroyed, i smile inside. its just how i feel, and you cant help your
>> feelings. this isnt the same as participating or inciting others to
>> peform
>> these acts.
>>
>> --
>> Nathan W. Collier
>> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>> http://7SlotGrille.com
>> http://InlineDiesel.com
>> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
>> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:444e3694$0$14946$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> that Nathan is always right.

hey...._you_ said it. :-)


> The reason research is so expensive

is because of pork-barrel spending.


> You hear, what you want to hear. You see,
> what you want to see. And you believe, what you want to believe.

and you think you know something about wolves because you "read a book".
BUWAHAHA! :-)


> You have contradicted yourself several
> times, and you back pedalled on several key issues.

there you go again with your mind wandering. SHOW ME a backpeddle. you
cant.


> You support the laws of
> this country and your state, for example, yet you support those who would
> violently and in secret break those laws.

i FOLLOW the law earle. its perfectly reasonable to FOLLOW the law, and
take comfort in contradiction when those laws conflict with your moral
standards. being a liberal, you wouldnt know to much about moral standards.



> You use the example of one
> private ranch, to disprove that ranchers take welfare.

NONONO! back up earle.....YOU were pitifully trying to tell ME about the
people that _I_ know, and i showed you that you were WRONG. i never spoke a
word about the ranchers i know nothing of. you painted a sweeping picture,
need i quote? i showed you that you were full of ----. im STILL waiting to
hear what government assistance that pryor creek ranch receives earle, since
you said so. what, you read about it in a book? :-)


> What kind of fool would
> I be, if I based all my conclusions on Usenet, as you apparently do?

i havent asked you to base all your conclusions on usenet. ive given you my
first hand knowledge based upon my personal interaction with wolves in
montana. you prefer to believe what you read "in a book". fine earle, its
_your_ ignorance.



> you refuse to recognize, that this is a
> complicated issue.

WRONG! i know its a complicated issue, but for different reasons than you
see. you think the wolf is "pretty" (ok, it _is_ pretty) and thats all you
see. you fail to see that without the wolves ONLY natural predator (man),
an imbalance exists.


> You should learn to recognize when you are whipped.

lol.....when you "whip" me you let me know. :-)


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:444e3694$0$14946$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> that Nathan is always right.

hey...._you_ said it. :-)


> The reason research is so expensive

is because of pork-barrel spending.


> You hear, what you want to hear. You see,
> what you want to see. And you believe, what you want to believe.

and you think you know something about wolves because you "read a book".
BUWAHAHA! :-)


> You have contradicted yourself several
> times, and you back pedalled on several key issues.

there you go again with your mind wandering. SHOW ME a backpeddle. you
cant.


> You support the laws of
> this country and your state, for example, yet you support those who would
> violently and in secret break those laws.

i FOLLOW the law earle. its perfectly reasonable to FOLLOW the law, and
take comfort in contradiction when those laws conflict with your moral
standards. being a liberal, you wouldnt know to much about moral standards.



> You use the example of one
> private ranch, to disprove that ranchers take welfare.

NONONO! back up earle.....YOU were pitifully trying to tell ME about the
people that _I_ know, and i showed you that you were WRONG. i never spoke a
word about the ranchers i know nothing of. you painted a sweeping picture,
need i quote? i showed you that you were full of ----. im STILL waiting to
hear what government assistance that pryor creek ranch receives earle, since
you said so. what, you read about it in a book? :-)


> What kind of fool would
> I be, if I based all my conclusions on Usenet, as you apparently do?

i havent asked you to base all your conclusions on usenet. ive given you my
first hand knowledge based upon my personal interaction with wolves in
montana. you prefer to believe what you read "in a book". fine earle, its
_your_ ignorance.



> you refuse to recognize, that this is a
> complicated issue.

WRONG! i know its a complicated issue, but for different reasons than you
see. you think the wolf is "pretty" (ok, it _is_ pretty) and thats all you
see. you fail to see that without the wolves ONLY natural predator (man),
an imbalance exists.


> You should learn to recognize when you are whipped.

lol.....when you "whip" me you let me know. :-)


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com