OT: need good spyware removal program sugestions?
12-15-2004 | 10:49 PM
#81
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Re: OT: need good spyware removal program sugestions?
Mark12211 proclaimed:
> Here are some more Spyware/Adware prevention tricks. Please note Windows XP
> defaults to allow all spyware/adware/search bars/browser hyjackers to install
> automatically, but it can easily be fixed.
>
> If you use Windows XP, you can stop all third party search bar take overs
> instantly. Simply right click on the E (Explorer), go to PROPERTIES, then
> click on ADVANCED. You want to make sure ENABLE THIRD-PARTY BROWSER EXTENSIONS
> (requires restart) is unclicked.
I know an even better trick.... but am having trouble locating the
button to turn off BHO's and such on Mozilla....
> While you are there, unclick ENABLE INSTALL ON DEMAND (Internet Explorer AND
> Other), this is how 90% of spyware is installed. Doing this will cause a gray
> box to appear if spware or adware is about to install.
Some can be set to prompt.
> Here are some more Spyware/Adware prevention tricks. Please note Windows XP
> defaults to allow all spyware/adware/search bars/browser hyjackers to install
> automatically, but it can easily be fixed.
>
> If you use Windows XP, you can stop all third party search bar take overs
> instantly. Simply right click on the E (Explorer), go to PROPERTIES, then
> click on ADVANCED. You want to make sure ENABLE THIRD-PARTY BROWSER EXTENSIONS
> (requires restart) is unclicked.
I know an even better trick.... but am having trouble locating the
button to turn off BHO's and such on Mozilla....
> While you are there, unclick ENABLE INSTALL ON DEMAND (Internet Explorer AND
> Other), this is how 90% of spyware is installed. Doing this will cause a gray
> box to appear if spware or adware is about to install.
Some can be set to prompt.
12-15-2004 | 10:49 PM
#82
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Re: OT: need good spyware removal program sugestions?
Mark12211 proclaimed:
> Here are some more Spyware/Adware prevention tricks. Please note Windows XP
> defaults to allow all spyware/adware/search bars/browser hyjackers to install
> automatically, but it can easily be fixed.
>
> If you use Windows XP, you can stop all third party search bar take overs
> instantly. Simply right click on the E (Explorer), go to PROPERTIES, then
> click on ADVANCED. You want to make sure ENABLE THIRD-PARTY BROWSER EXTENSIONS
> (requires restart) is unclicked.
I know an even better trick.... but am having trouble locating the
button to turn off BHO's and such on Mozilla....
> While you are there, unclick ENABLE INSTALL ON DEMAND (Internet Explorer AND
> Other), this is how 90% of spyware is installed. Doing this will cause a gray
> box to appear if spware or adware is about to install.
Some can be set to prompt.
> Here are some more Spyware/Adware prevention tricks. Please note Windows XP
> defaults to allow all spyware/adware/search bars/browser hyjackers to install
> automatically, but it can easily be fixed.
>
> If you use Windows XP, you can stop all third party search bar take overs
> instantly. Simply right click on the E (Explorer), go to PROPERTIES, then
> click on ADVANCED. You want to make sure ENABLE THIRD-PARTY BROWSER EXTENSIONS
> (requires restart) is unclicked.
I know an even better trick.... but am having trouble locating the
button to turn off BHO's and such on Mozilla....
> While you are there, unclick ENABLE INSTALL ON DEMAND (Internet Explorer AND
> Other), this is how 90% of spyware is installed. Doing this will cause a gray
> box to appear if spware or adware is about to install.
Some can be set to prompt.
12-15-2004 | 10:51 PM
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Re: OT OT: OS options
The more famous one was more accurately described as a worm for the
pitnickers in the crowd. However, Linux is not Unix unless you work
for SCO. And indeed neither is CERT-free. Don't recall any CERT
advisories for MVS/VTAM combination, but then the irreverent might
ask how one could tell?
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by the
> multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the idea "if
> you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41BE93CD.5FCB029F@***.net...
>
>> Would any self respecting hacker make a Trojan for Linux, and how
>>would multitask a mail program, if the owner was logged on?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>that was the point I was making to Mark - a mechanic will do a better
>
> than
>
>>>average job on his g/f's Jeep, and Linux is better than MS crap as you
>
> so
>
>>>eloquently put it.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
pitnickers in the crowd. However, Linux is not Unix unless you work
for SCO. And indeed neither is CERT-free. Don't recall any CERT
advisories for MVS/VTAM combination, but then the irreverent might
ask how one could tell?
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by the
> multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the idea "if
> you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41BE93CD.5FCB029F@***.net...
>
>> Would any self respecting hacker make a Trojan for Linux, and how
>>would multitask a mail program, if the owner was logged on?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>that was the point I was making to Mark - a mechanic will do a better
>
> than
>
>>>average job on his g/f's Jeep, and Linux is better than MS crap as you
>
> so
>
>>>eloquently put it.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
12-15-2004 | 10:51 PM
#84
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Re: OT OT: OS options
The more famous one was more accurately described as a worm for the
pitnickers in the crowd. However, Linux is not Unix unless you work
for SCO. And indeed neither is CERT-free. Don't recall any CERT
advisories for MVS/VTAM combination, but then the irreverent might
ask how one could tell?
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by the
> multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the idea "if
> you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41BE93CD.5FCB029F@***.net...
>
>> Would any self respecting hacker make a Trojan for Linux, and how
>>would multitask a mail program, if the owner was logged on?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>that was the point I was making to Mark - a mechanic will do a better
>
> than
>
>>>average job on his g/f's Jeep, and Linux is better than MS crap as you
>
> so
>
>>>eloquently put it.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
pitnickers in the crowd. However, Linux is not Unix unless you work
for SCO. And indeed neither is CERT-free. Don't recall any CERT
advisories for MVS/VTAM combination, but then the irreverent might
ask how one could tell?
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by the
> multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the idea "if
> you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41BE93CD.5FCB029F@***.net...
>
>> Would any self respecting hacker make a Trojan for Linux, and how
>>would multitask a mail program, if the owner was logged on?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>that was the point I was making to Mark - a mechanic will do a better
>
> than
>
>>>average job on his g/f's Jeep, and Linux is better than MS crap as you
>
> so
>
>>>eloquently put it.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
12-15-2004 | 10:51 PM
#85
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Re: OT OT: OS options
The more famous one was more accurately described as a worm for the
pitnickers in the crowd. However, Linux is not Unix unless you work
for SCO. And indeed neither is CERT-free. Don't recall any CERT
advisories for MVS/VTAM combination, but then the irreverent might
ask how one could tell?
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by the
> multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the idea "if
> you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41BE93CD.5FCB029F@***.net...
>
>> Would any self respecting hacker make a Trojan for Linux, and how
>>would multitask a mail program, if the owner was logged on?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>that was the point I was making to Mark - a mechanic will do a better
>
> than
>
>>>average job on his g/f's Jeep, and Linux is better than MS crap as you
>
> so
>
>>>eloquently put it.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
pitnickers in the crowd. However, Linux is not Unix unless you work
for SCO. And indeed neither is CERT-free. Don't recall any CERT
advisories for MVS/VTAM combination, but then the irreverent might
ask how one could tell?
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by the
> multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the idea "if
> you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41BE93CD.5FCB029F@***.net...
>
>> Would any self respecting hacker make a Trojan for Linux, and how
>>would multitask a mail program, if the owner was logged on?
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>that was the point I was making to Mark - a mechanic will do a better
>
> than
>
>>>average job on his g/f's Jeep, and Linux is better than MS crap as you
>
> so
>
>>>eloquently put it.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
12-15-2004 | 10:59 PM
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Re: OT OT: OS options
True, but it is worth noting that it couldn't affect a goodly of the
Unix variants then available for commercial use...as opposed to the
BSD based variants running on Sun and VAX. With some Unix variants
of the time totally immune, e.g. UTS.
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> Your link says
>
> "For all these reasons, even if a few individuals got infected with a virus
> due to extremely foolish behavior, it's unlikely the virus would ------ to
> other machines. Unlike Sobig.F, which is the fastest ------ing virus ever, a
> Linux-based Virus would fizzle out quickly"
>
> Take a trip back 16 years to the first internet worm. Sadly, I remember it
> !
> At around midnight on November 2, 1988 the Morris worm, which was written by
> a 23 year old Cornell student called Robert Tappan Morris, was released on
> the then-embryonic Internet.Within hours the worm's 99 lines of code
> overloaded thousands of Unix-based VAX and Sun systems and forced
> administrators to disconnect their computers from the network to try and
> stop the worm from ------ing.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Rick" <NoSpam@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.14.14.04.27.707206@NoSpam.invalid ...
>
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:11:47 +0000, Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by
>>>the multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the
>>>idea "if you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>You might if you read the info at this link.
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10...ndows_viruses/
>
>
>
Unix variants then available for commercial use...as opposed to the
BSD based variants running on Sun and VAX. With some Unix variants
of the time totally immune, e.g. UTS.
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> Your link says
>
> "For all these reasons, even if a few individuals got infected with a virus
> due to extremely foolish behavior, it's unlikely the virus would ------ to
> other machines. Unlike Sobig.F, which is the fastest ------ing virus ever, a
> Linux-based Virus would fizzle out quickly"
>
> Take a trip back 16 years to the first internet worm. Sadly, I remember it
> !
> At around midnight on November 2, 1988 the Morris worm, which was written by
> a 23 year old Cornell student called Robert Tappan Morris, was released on
> the then-embryonic Internet.Within hours the worm's 99 lines of code
> overloaded thousands of Unix-based VAX and Sun systems and forced
> administrators to disconnect their computers from the network to try and
> stop the worm from ------ing.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Rick" <NoSpam@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.14.14.04.27.707206@NoSpam.invalid ...
>
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:11:47 +0000, Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by
>>>the multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the
>>>idea "if you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>You might if you read the info at this link.
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10...ndows_viruses/
>
>
>
12-15-2004 | 10:59 PM
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Re: OT OT: OS options
True, but it is worth noting that it couldn't affect a goodly of the
Unix variants then available for commercial use...as opposed to the
BSD based variants running on Sun and VAX. With some Unix variants
of the time totally immune, e.g. UTS.
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> Your link says
>
> "For all these reasons, even if a few individuals got infected with a virus
> due to extremely foolish behavior, it's unlikely the virus would ------ to
> other machines. Unlike Sobig.F, which is the fastest ------ing virus ever, a
> Linux-based Virus would fizzle out quickly"
>
> Take a trip back 16 years to the first internet worm. Sadly, I remember it
> !
> At around midnight on November 2, 1988 the Morris worm, which was written by
> a 23 year old Cornell student called Robert Tappan Morris, was released on
> the then-embryonic Internet.Within hours the worm's 99 lines of code
> overloaded thousands of Unix-based VAX and Sun systems and forced
> administrators to disconnect their computers from the network to try and
> stop the worm from ------ing.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Rick" <NoSpam@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.14.14.04.27.707206@NoSpam.invalid ...
>
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:11:47 +0000, Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by
>>>the multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the
>>>idea "if you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>You might if you read the info at this link.
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10...ndows_viruses/
>
>
>
Unix variants then available for commercial use...as opposed to the
BSD based variants running on Sun and VAX. With some Unix variants
of the time totally immune, e.g. UTS.
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> Your link says
>
> "For all these reasons, even if a few individuals got infected with a virus
> due to extremely foolish behavior, it's unlikely the virus would ------ to
> other machines. Unlike Sobig.F, which is the fastest ------ing virus ever, a
> Linux-based Virus would fizzle out quickly"
>
> Take a trip back 16 years to the first internet worm. Sadly, I remember it
> !
> At around midnight on November 2, 1988 the Morris worm, which was written by
> a 23 year old Cornell student called Robert Tappan Morris, was released on
> the then-embryonic Internet.Within hours the worm's 99 lines of code
> overloaded thousands of Unix-based VAX and Sun systems and forced
> administrators to disconnect their computers from the network to try and
> stop the worm from ------ing.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Rick" <NoSpam@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.14.14.04.27.707206@NoSpam.invalid ...
>
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:11:47 +0000, Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by
>>>the multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the
>>>idea "if you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>You might if you read the info at this link.
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10...ndows_viruses/
>
>
>
12-15-2004 | 10:59 PM
#88
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Re: OT OT: OS options
True, but it is worth noting that it couldn't affect a goodly of the
Unix variants then available for commercial use...as opposed to the
BSD based variants running on Sun and VAX. With some Unix variants
of the time totally immune, e.g. UTS.
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> Your link says
>
> "For all these reasons, even if a few individuals got infected with a virus
> due to extremely foolish behavior, it's unlikely the virus would ------ to
> other machines. Unlike Sobig.F, which is the fastest ------ing virus ever, a
> Linux-based Virus would fizzle out quickly"
>
> Take a trip back 16 years to the first internet worm. Sadly, I remember it
> !
> At around midnight on November 2, 1988 the Morris worm, which was written by
> a 23 year old Cornell student called Robert Tappan Morris, was released on
> the then-embryonic Internet.Within hours the worm's 99 lines of code
> overloaded thousands of Unix-based VAX and Sun systems and forced
> administrators to disconnect their computers from the network to try and
> stop the worm from ------ing.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Rick" <NoSpam@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.14.14.04.27.707206@NoSpam.invalid ...
>
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:11:47 +0000, Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by
>>>the multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the
>>>idea "if you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>You might if you read the info at this link.
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10...ndows_viruses/
>
>
>
Unix variants then available for commercial use...as opposed to the
BSD based variants running on Sun and VAX. With some Unix variants
of the time totally immune, e.g. UTS.
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> Your link says
>
> "For all these reasons, even if a few individuals got infected with a virus
> due to extremely foolish behavior, it's unlikely the virus would ------ to
> other machines. Unlike Sobig.F, which is the fastest ------ing virus ever, a
> Linux-based Virus would fizzle out quickly"
>
> Take a trip back 16 years to the first internet worm. Sadly, I remember it
> !
> At around midnight on November 2, 1988 the Morris worm, which was written by
> a 23 year old Cornell student called Robert Tappan Morris, was released on
> the then-embryonic Internet.Within hours the worm's 99 lines of code
> overloaded thousands of Unix-based VAX and Sun systems and forced
> administrators to disconnect their computers from the network to try and
> stop the worm from ------ing.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Rick" <NoSpam@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.14.14.04.27.707206@NoSpam.invalid ...
>
>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:11:47 +0000, Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The first viruses were unix ones. I don't understand what you mean by
>>>the multitaking of a mail program. I don't know where people get the
>>>idea "if you run linux you can't get viruses" from.
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>
>>You might if you read the info at this link.
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10...ndows_viruses/
>
>
>
12-16-2004 | 03:22 AM
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Re: OT OT: OS options
Not heard anything on that lately - have you ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:oD7wd.660386$mD.26082@attbi_s02...
> However, Linux is not Unix unless you work for SCO
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:oD7wd.660386$mD.26082@attbi_s02...
> However, Linux is not Unix unless you work for SCO
12-16-2004 | 03:22 AM
#90
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Re: OT OT: OS options
Not heard anything on that lately - have you ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:oD7wd.660386$mD.26082@attbi_s02...
> However, Linux is not Unix unless you work for SCO
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:oD7wd.660386$mD.26082@attbi_s02...
> However, Linux is not Unix unless you work for SCO