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Walt & Lynda Johnson 02-22-2004 05:44 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
Bob,

For general all-around versatility, the ole 30-06 is hard to beat. I
personally like
the model 70 Winchester. I donated a "Royal" Elk to the local lodge...that
elk was
taken with a 30-06 using 180 Gr. Nosler Partition bullets with a good load
of
4350 behind them. One shot kill. Load with 30-30 bullets and 3031 powder,
the "ought six" is dynamite on eastern whitetails (the 30-30 bullets expand
very
rapidly at 30-06 velocities).

As you get older, you will be glad you got the "featherlite" model.

Walt Johnson
1999 TJ
KB2UOU




Walt & Lynda Johnson 02-22-2004 05:44 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
Bob,

For general all-around versatility, the ole 30-06 is hard to beat. I
personally like
the model 70 Winchester. I donated a "Royal" Elk to the local lodge...that
elk was
taken with a 30-06 using 180 Gr. Nosler Partition bullets with a good load
of
4350 behind them. One shot kill. Load with 30-30 bullets and 3031 powder,
the "ought six" is dynamite on eastern whitetails (the 30-30 bullets expand
very
rapidly at 30-06 velocities).

As you get older, you will be glad you got the "featherlite" model.

Walt Johnson
1999 TJ
KB2UOU




Walt & Lynda Johnson 02-22-2004 05:44 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
Bob,

For general all-around versatility, the ole 30-06 is hard to beat. I
personally like
the model 70 Winchester. I donated a "Royal" Elk to the local lodge...that
elk was
taken with a 30-06 using 180 Gr. Nosler Partition bullets with a good load
of
4350 behind them. One shot kill. Load with 30-30 bullets and 3031 powder,
the "ought six" is dynamite on eastern whitetails (the 30-30 bullets expand
very
rapidly at 30-06 velocities).

As you get older, you will be glad you got the "featherlite" model.

Walt Johnson
1999 TJ
KB2UOU




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-22-2004 06:51 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
There are no safeties to f**k with on my Browning:
http://www.----------.com/browning.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Old Crow wrote:
>
> I didn't much like the idea of carrying cocked and locked at first,
> but with the safety and the grip safety I guess setting it off
> accidently would take some doing.
> This 1911 I inherited from my Dad...according to the serial number
> it's a 1918 build and the first thing anyone who handles it says is
> how tight it is. I know it's had more rounds fired through it in the
> last 2 years than I can remember for the rest of my life. In fact I
> may go buy a box of shells today, just for kicks
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-22-2004 06:51 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
There are no safeties to f**k with on my Browning:
http://www.----------.com/browning.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Old Crow wrote:
>
> I didn't much like the idea of carrying cocked and locked at first,
> but with the safety and the grip safety I guess setting it off
> accidently would take some doing.
> This 1911 I inherited from my Dad...according to the serial number
> it's a 1918 build and the first thing anyone who handles it says is
> how tight it is. I know it's had more rounds fired through it in the
> last 2 years than I can remember for the rest of my life. In fact I
> may go buy a box of shells today, just for kicks
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-22-2004 06:51 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
There are no safeties to f**k with on my Browning:
http://www.----------.com/browning.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Old Crow wrote:
>
> I didn't much like the idea of carrying cocked and locked at first,
> but with the safety and the grip safety I guess setting it off
> accidently would take some doing.
> This 1911 I inherited from my Dad...according to the serial number
> it's a 1918 build and the first thing anyone who handles it says is
> how tight it is. I know it's had more rounds fired through it in the
> last 2 years than I can remember for the rest of my life. In fact I
> may go buy a box of shells today, just for kicks
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-22-2004 06:56 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
I've never heard of that. We of course may pull her threw with a
double action.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-8R1XdfDe7Nvd@anon.none.net...
> > I've always been told to carry it in the half----- position.

>
> the problem with half----- is that the hammer will still fall when the
> trigger is pulled. half ---- is not protection from being dropped.
> half-cocked is a stop gap incase the sear catch fails while the weapon is
> cocked.
>
> > The first was to drop a M1911 with a round chambered (blank loads, of
> > course) on the floor or the ground. Out of ten drops, it would go off
> > an average of 7 times according to him - but I never saw it fail to
> > discharge.

>
> that was with the hammer down?
>
> > The other was a 12 inch scar across his belly (he used a
> > cross draw holster) to demonstrate the hazards of the full-----
> > method. He wouldn't carry his in anything but half-----.

>
> was he carrying condition 0 (loaded, chambered, no safety on)? with the
> thumb safety up the hammer mechanically cannot possibly fall.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-22-2004 06:56 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
I've never heard of that. We of course may pull her threw with a
double action.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-8R1XdfDe7Nvd@anon.none.net...
> > I've always been told to carry it in the half----- position.

>
> the problem with half----- is that the hammer will still fall when the
> trigger is pulled. half ---- is not protection from being dropped.
> half-cocked is a stop gap incase the sear catch fails while the weapon is
> cocked.
>
> > The first was to drop a M1911 with a round chambered (blank loads, of
> > course) on the floor or the ground. Out of ten drops, it would go off
> > an average of 7 times according to him - but I never saw it fail to
> > discharge.

>
> that was with the hammer down?
>
> > The other was a 12 inch scar across his belly (he used a
> > cross draw holster) to demonstrate the hazards of the full-----
> > method. He wouldn't carry his in anything but half-----.

>
> was he carrying condition 0 (loaded, chambered, no safety on)? with the
> thumb safety up the hammer mechanically cannot possibly fall.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-22-2004 06:56 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
I've never heard of that. We of course may pull her threw with a
double action.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-8R1XdfDe7Nvd@anon.none.net...
> > I've always been told to carry it in the half----- position.

>
> the problem with half----- is that the hammer will still fall when the
> trigger is pulled. half ---- is not protection from being dropped.
> half-cocked is a stop gap incase the sear catch fails while the weapon is
> cocked.
>
> > The first was to drop a M1911 with a round chambered (blank loads, of
> > course) on the floor or the ground. Out of ten drops, it would go off
> > an average of 7 times according to him - but I never saw it fail to
> > discharge.

>
> that was with the hammer down?
>
> > The other was a 12 inch scar across his belly (he used a
> > cross draw holster) to demonstrate the hazards of the full-----
> > method. He wouldn't carry his in anything but half-----.

>
> was he carrying condition 0 (loaded, chambered, no safety on)? with the
> thumb safety up the hammer mechanically cannot possibly fall.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-22-2004 07:42 PM

Re: OT: Hunting vs. Off-roading
 
Give me more weight, it kicks less and you won't burn you hands
with Real wood stocks and barrel cover like the tried and true M1
Garand.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Walt & Lynda Johnson wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> For general all-around versatility, the ole 30-06 is hard to beat. I
> personally like
> the model 70 Winchester. I donated a "Royal" Elk to the local lodge...that
> elk was
> taken with a 30-06 using 180 Gr. Nosler Partition bullets with a good load
> of
> 4350 behind them. One shot kill. Load with 30-30 bullets and 3031 powder,
> the "ought six" is dynamite on eastern whitetails (the 30-30 bullets expand
> very
> rapidly at 30-06 velocities).
>
> As you get older, you will be glad you got the "featherlite" model.
>
> Walt Johnson
> 1999 TJ
> KB2UOU



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