Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

Hi Herb,
The side air bags warning labels are located above the pillar:
http://www.----------.com/sideAirbag.jpg The control module is located
on the floor between the seats and under the console:
http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Herb Leong wrote:
>
> Airbags only deploy under limited circumstances, like when the front is
> totaly smashed up. Like this:
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/cars/784.html
> If the front bumper does not get smashed in like that, they will not
> deploy. The safety features are designed for the NHTSA tests, not
> the real world.
>
> The type of rollover Grace had would have deployed side curtain air
> bags, but since it's not a later model WJ (no piller-mounted Jesus
> bars), there were no side bags, just the fronts...
>
> /herb

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

Hi Bill!

You have a newer WJ, 2002 or later, right? My 1999 does not have that.
You probably have two front Jesus bars on the D pillars next to the front
windshield. I have only one front Jesus bar on the passenger side and it
is in the same position relative to the holder as your rear seat Jesus
bars. If you had the front Jesus bar located near the head as on the
earlier WJs, it would smack your head when it deployed.

As far as where the control module is located, it's not relavent. It
takes a impact to the car that would crush up the bumper into the engine
compartment to activate the front airbags...

/herb

In article <4461A5E9.E6322ECF@cox.net>,
L.W.(Bill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
#Hi Herb,
# The side air bags warning labels are located above the pillar:
#http://www.----------.com/sideAirbag.jpg The control module is located
#on the floor between the seats and under the console:
#http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
# God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
#mailto:--------------------
#
#Herb Leong wrote:
#>
#> Airbags only deploy under limited circumstances, like when the front is
#> totaly smashed up. Like this:
#> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/cars/784.html
#> If the front bumper does not get smashed in like that, they will not
#> deploy. The safety features are designed for the NHTSA tests, not
#> the real world.
#>
#> The type of rollover Grace had would have deployed side curtain air
#> bags, but since it's not a later model WJ (no piller-mounted Jesus
#> bars), there were no side bags, just the fronts...
#>
#> /herb

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

Hi Bill!

You have a newer WJ, 2002 or later, right? My 1999 does not have that.
You probably have two front Jesus bars on the D pillars next to the front
windshield. I have only one front Jesus bar on the passenger side and it
is in the same position relative to the holder as your rear seat Jesus
bars. If you had the front Jesus bar located near the head as on the
earlier WJs, it would smack your head when it deployed.

As far as where the control module is located, it's not relavent. It
takes a impact to the car that would crush up the bumper into the engine
compartment to activate the front airbags...

/herb

In article <4461A5E9.E6322ECF@cox.net>,
L.W.(Bill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
#Hi Herb,
# The side air bags warning labels are located above the pillar:
#http://www.----------.com/sideAirbag.jpg The control module is located
#on the floor between the seats and under the console:
#http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
# God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
#mailto:--------------------
#
#Herb Leong wrote:
#>
#> Airbags only deploy under limited circumstances, like when the front is
#> totaly smashed up. Like this:
#> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/cars/784.html
#> If the front bumper does not get smashed in like that, they will not
#> deploy. The safety features are designed for the NHTSA tests, not
#> the real world.
#>
#> The type of rollover Grace had would have deployed side curtain air
#> bags, but since it's not a later model WJ (no piller-mounted Jesus
#> bars), there were no side bags, just the fronts...
#>
#> /herb

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

Hi Bill!

You have a newer WJ, 2002 or later, right? My 1999 does not have that.
You probably have two front Jesus bars on the D pillars next to the front
windshield. I have only one front Jesus bar on the passenger side and it
is in the same position relative to the holder as your rear seat Jesus
bars. If you had the front Jesus bar located near the head as on the
earlier WJs, it would smack your head when it deployed.

As far as where the control module is located, it's not relavent. It
takes a impact to the car that would crush up the bumper into the engine
compartment to activate the front airbags...

/herb

In article <4461A5E9.E6322ECF@cox.net>,
L.W.(Bill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
#Hi Herb,
# The side air bags warning labels are located above the pillar:
#http://www.----------.com/sideAirbag.jpg The control module is located
#on the floor between the seats and under the console:
#http://www.----------.com/airbagC.jpg
# God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
#mailto:--------------------
#
#Herb Leong wrote:
#>
#> Airbags only deploy under limited circumstances, like when the front is
#> totaly smashed up. Like this:
#> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/cars/784.html
#> If the front bumper does not get smashed in like that, they will not
#> deploy. The safety features are designed for the NHTSA tests, not
#> the real world.
#>
#> The type of rollover Grace had would have deployed side curtain air
#> bags, but since it's not a later model WJ (no piller-mounted Jesus
#> bars), there were no side bags, just the fronts...
#>
#> /herb

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

In article <kcm26291da3p94onpccmhb73mrba825b79@4ax.com>,
Grumman-581 <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:
#I went up to the tow facilty on Sunday to get some personal items out
#of the vehicle, took some photos, and put them on a page that I had
#started for the WJ, but never got around to finishing...
#
#Does it look totalled to ya'll?
#
#http://home.houston.rr.com/grumman581/2001-jeep-wj.htm

It is lucky that you two did not get a sun roof. It would have
been a extra source of glass chunks and a extra entry point for
other bits and chunks to go flying in from.

/herb

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

In article <kcm26291da3p94onpccmhb73mrba825b79@4ax.com>,
Grumman-581 <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:
#I went up to the tow facilty on Sunday to get some personal items out
#of the vehicle, took some photos, and put them on a page that I had
#started for the WJ, but never got around to finishing...
#
#Does it look totalled to ya'll?
#
#http://home.houston.rr.com/grumman581/2001-jeep-wj.htm

It is lucky that you two did not get a sun roof. It would have
been a extra source of glass chunks and a extra entry point for
other bits and chunks to go flying in from.

/herb

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

In article <kcm26291da3p94onpccmhb73mrba825b79@4ax.com>,
Grumman-581 <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM-gmail.com> wrote:
#I went up to the tow facilty on Sunday to get some personal items out
#of the vehicle, took some photos, and put them on a page that I had
#started for the WJ, but never got around to finishing...
#
#Does it look totalled to ya'll?
#
#http://home.houston.rr.com/grumman581/2001-jeep-wj.htm

It is lucky that you two did not get a sun roof. It would have
been a extra source of glass chunks and a extra entry point for
other bits and chunks to go flying in from.

/herb

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:uo2dnRyG8I4kBPzZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> In article <44615CD0.A6AA1D3F@cox.net>,
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> # They'll total it, you may have to use an attorney to get a fair
> #price, though.
> # Thanks for posting it, as I was interested in how well the top
> #held, and it did.
> # I don't see air bags, is this it second accident and as so often
> #the bags weren't replaced?
> Airbags only deploy under limited circumstances, like when the front is
> totaly smashed up. Like this:
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/cars/784.html
> If the front bumper does not get smashed in like that, they will not
> deploy. The safety features are designed for the NHTSA tests, not
> the real world.
>
> The type of rollover Grace had would have deployed side curtain air
> bags, but since it's not a later model WJ (no piller-mounted Jesus
> bars), there were no side bags, just the fronts...
>
> /herb

One thing I learned in EMT class, is that the way to get killed in a
rollover, is by being ejected from the vehicle. The original purpose of
seat belts was to keep people inside the vehicle, where ninety-nine times
out of a hundred it is safer, than flying out the window. Later, after they
figured out that people were hitting their heads on the dash, padded
dashboard and shoulder belts were added. Even later, when they figured out
that some people would always refuse to do what was good for them, air bags
and automatic tightening shoulder belts were added. If you have ever seen
the film clip, of a pyrotechnic shoulder belt tensioner going off, with an
auto manufacturer executive strapped in, well it doesn't get much better
than that, filmwise. Rollovers are slow, compared to head on collisions.
Air bags would be of limited value, since they deflate almost immediately
after use.

Earle

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:uo2dnRyG8I4kBPzZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> In article <44615CD0.A6AA1D3F@cox.net>,
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> # They'll total it, you may have to use an attorney to get a fair
> #price, though.
> # Thanks for posting it, as I was interested in how well the top
> #held, and it did.
> # I don't see air bags, is this it second accident and as so often
> #the bags weren't replaced?
> Airbags only deploy under limited circumstances, like when the front is
> totaly smashed up. Like this:
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/cars/784.html
> If the front bumper does not get smashed in like that, they will not
> deploy. The safety features are designed for the NHTSA tests, not
> the real world.
>
> The type of rollover Grace had would have deployed side curtain air
> bags, but since it's not a later model WJ (no piller-mounted Jesus
> bars), there were no side bags, just the fronts...
>
> /herb

One thing I learned in EMT class, is that the way to get killed in a
rollover, is by being ejected from the vehicle. The original purpose of
seat belts was to keep people inside the vehicle, where ninety-nine times
out of a hundred it is safer, than flying out the window. Later, after they
figured out that people were hitting their heads on the dash, padded
dashboard and shoulder belts were added. Even later, when they figured out
that some people would always refuse to do what was good for them, air bags
and automatic tightening shoulder belts were added. If you have ever seen
the film clip, of a pyrotechnic shoulder belt tensioner going off, with an
auto manufacturer executive strapped in, well it doesn't get much better
than that, filmwise. Rollovers are slow, compared to head on collisions.
Air bags would be of limited value, since they deflate almost immediately
after use.

Earle

Re: One Less WJ On The Road
 

"Herb Leong" <herb@urusei.net> wrote in message
news:uo2dnRyG8I4kBPzZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> In article <44615CD0.A6AA1D3F@cox.net>,
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> # They'll total it, you may have to use an attorney to get a fair
> #price, though.
> # Thanks for posting it, as I was interested in how well the top
> #held, and it did.
> # I don't see air bags, is this it second accident and as so often
> #the bags weren't replaced?
> Airbags only deploy under limited circumstances, like when the front is
> totaly smashed up. Like this:
> http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/cars/784.html
> If the front bumper does not get smashed in like that, they will not
> deploy. The safety features are designed for the NHTSA tests, not
> the real world.
>
> The type of rollover Grace had would have deployed side curtain air
> bags, but since it's not a later model WJ (no piller-mounted Jesus
> bars), there were no side bags, just the fronts...
>
> /herb

One thing I learned in EMT class, is that the way to get killed in a
rollover, is by being ejected from the vehicle. The original purpose of
seat belts was to keep people inside the vehicle, where ninety-nine times
out of a hundred it is safer, than flying out the window. Later, after they
figured out that people were hitting their heads on the dash, padded
dashboard and shoulder belts were added. Even later, when they figured out
that some people would always refuse to do what was good for them, air bags
and automatic tightening shoulder belts were added. If you have ever seen
the film clip, of a pyrotechnic shoulder belt tensioner going off, with an
auto manufacturer executive strapped in, well it doesn't get much better
than that, filmwise. Rollovers are slow, compared to head on collisions.
Air bags would be of limited value, since they deflate almost immediately
after use.

Earle