Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
stage...

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:10:50 UTC "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote:

> I use a socket extender on the end of the wrench. My hands aren't
> particulary small, and it's a real hassel getting up in there to tighten the
> new filter. As far as removing the old gasketing, I've been pretty lucky in
> that normally nothing is left in there. I took a short piece of 1/4 inch
> wooden dowel and cut the end into a scraper. It gives me just enough reach
> to clean the face of the seat.
>
> I think it should be mandatory for all automotive design engineers to spend
> at least 6 months in the shops serviceing and working on what they design.
> I bet things would be better (grin)!
>
> -Bruce
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:44F7BC2F.5BA242B4@cox.net...
> > You must have really small hands. Or how do clean the gasket seat
> > making sure the old gasket isn't stuck there?
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bruce Yelen wrote:
> >>
> >> I use an end-cap wrench I found at Napa. Here's a picture:
> >> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CAL-988.html . One thing that WAS
> >> done
> >> right, was I found on my '03 that they bolted in a spout so that as you
> >> remove the filter, all of that oil will spill out of one point, allowing
> >> you
> >> to place your pan to avoid making a mess!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Bruce
>
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
stage...

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:10:50 UTC "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote:

> I use a socket extender on the end of the wrench. My hands aren't
> particulary small, and it's a real hassel getting up in there to tighten the
> new filter. As far as removing the old gasketing, I've been pretty lucky in
> that normally nothing is left in there. I took a short piece of 1/4 inch
> wooden dowel and cut the end into a scraper. It gives me just enough reach
> to clean the face of the seat.
>
> I think it should be mandatory for all automotive design engineers to spend
> at least 6 months in the shops serviceing and working on what they design.
> I bet things would be better (grin)!
>
> -Bruce
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:44F7BC2F.5BA242B4@cox.net...
> > You must have really small hands. Or how do clean the gasket seat
> > making sure the old gasket isn't stuck there?
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bruce Yelen wrote:
> >>
> >> I use an end-cap wrench I found at Napa. Here's a picture:
> >> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CAL-988.html . One thing that WAS
> >> done
> >> right, was I found on my '03 that they bolted in a spout so that as you
> >> remove the filter, all of that oil will spill out of one point, allowing
> >> you
> >> to place your pan to avoid making a mess!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Bruce
>
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
stage...

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:10:50 UTC "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote:

> I use a socket extender on the end of the wrench. My hands aren't
> particulary small, and it's a real hassel getting up in there to tighten the
> new filter. As far as removing the old gasketing, I've been pretty lucky in
> that normally nothing is left in there. I took a short piece of 1/4 inch
> wooden dowel and cut the end into a scraper. It gives me just enough reach
> to clean the face of the seat.
>
> I think it should be mandatory for all automotive design engineers to spend
> at least 6 months in the shops serviceing and working on what they design.
> I bet things would be better (grin)!
>
> -Bruce
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:44F7BC2F.5BA242B4@cox.net...
> > You must have really small hands. Or how do clean the gasket seat
> > making sure the old gasket isn't stuck there?
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Bruce Yelen wrote:
> >>
> >> I use an end-cap wrench I found at Napa. Here's a picture:
> >> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CAL-988.html . One thing that WAS
> >> done
> >> right, was I found on my '03 that they bolted in a spout so that as you
> >> remove the filter, all of that oil will spill out of one point, allowing
> >> you
> >> to place your pan to avoid making a mess!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Bruce
>
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

First you start with the marketing folks. After that, you might not need
to blame the engineers any more.


Will Honea proclaimed:

> I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
> time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
> Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
> stage...
>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:10:50 UTC "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I use a socket extender on the end of the wrench. My hands aren't
>>particulary small, and it's a real hassel getting up in there to tighten the
>>new filter. As far as removing the old gasketing, I've been pretty lucky in
>>that normally nothing is left in there. I took a short piece of 1/4 inch
>>wooden dowel and cut the end into a scraper. It gives me just enough reach
>>to clean the face of the seat.
>>
>>I think it should be mandatory for all automotive design engineers to spend
>>at least 6 months in the shops serviceing and working on what they design.
>>I bet things would be better (grin)!
>>
>>-Bruce
>>
>>
>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:44F7BC2F.5BA242B4@cox.net...
>>
>>> You must have really small hands. Or how do clean the gasket seat
>>>making sure the old gasket isn't stuck there?
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Bruce Yelen wrote:
>>>
>>>>I use an end-cap wrench I found at Napa. Here's a picture:
>>>>http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CAL-988.html . One thing that WAS
>>>>done
>>>>right, was I found on my '03 that they bolted in a spout so that as you
>>>>remove the filter, all of that oil will spill out of one point, allowing
>>>>you
>>>>to place your pan to avoid making a mess!
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Bruce
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

First you start with the marketing folks. After that, you might not need
to blame the engineers any more.


Will Honea proclaimed:

> I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
> time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
> Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
> stage...
>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:10:50 UTC "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I use a socket extender on the end of the wrench. My hands aren't
>>particulary small, and it's a real hassel getting up in there to tighten the
>>new filter. As far as removing the old gasketing, I've been pretty lucky in
>>that normally nothing is left in there. I took a short piece of 1/4 inch
>>wooden dowel and cut the end into a scraper. It gives me just enough reach
>>to clean the face of the seat.
>>
>>I think it should be mandatory for all automotive design engineers to spend
>>at least 6 months in the shops serviceing and working on what they design.
>>I bet things would be better (grin)!
>>
>>-Bruce
>>
>>
>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:44F7BC2F.5BA242B4@cox.net...
>>
>>> You must have really small hands. Or how do clean the gasket seat
>>>making sure the old gasket isn't stuck there?
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Bruce Yelen wrote:
>>>
>>>>I use an end-cap wrench I found at Napa. Here's a picture:
>>>>http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CAL-988.html . One thing that WAS
>>>>done
>>>>right, was I found on my '03 that they bolted in a spout so that as you
>>>>remove the filter, all of that oil will spill out of one point, allowing
>>>>you
>>>>to place your pan to avoid making a mess!
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Bruce
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

First you start with the marketing folks. After that, you might not need
to blame the engineers any more.


Will Honea proclaimed:

> I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
> time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
> Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
> stage...
>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 00:10:50 UTC "Bruce Yelen" <byelen@csd.net> wrote:
>
>
>>I use a socket extender on the end of the wrench. My hands aren't
>>particulary small, and it's a real hassel getting up in there to tighten the
>>new filter. As far as removing the old gasketing, I've been pretty lucky in
>>that normally nothing is left in there. I took a short piece of 1/4 inch
>>wooden dowel and cut the end into a scraper. It gives me just enough reach
>>to clean the face of the seat.
>>
>>I think it should be mandatory for all automotive design engineers to spend
>>at least 6 months in the shops serviceing and working on what they design.
>>I bet things would be better (grin)!
>>
>>-Bruce
>>
>>
>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:44F7BC2F.5BA242B4@cox.net...
>>
>>> You must have really small hands. Or how do clean the gasket seat
>>>making sure the old gasket isn't stuck there?
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Bruce Yelen wrote:
>>>
>>>>I use an end-cap wrench I found at Napa. Here's a picture:
>>>>http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CAL-988.html . One thing that WAS
>>>>done
>>>>right, was I found on my '03 that they bolted in a spout so that as you
>>>>remove the filter, all of that oil will spill out of one point, allowing
>>>>you
>>>>to place your pan to avoid making a mess!
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Bruce
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Will Honea wrote:
> I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
> time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
> Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
> stage...
>
>

And when was the last time they made a 1955 Ford V8? <grin>

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Will Honea wrote:
> I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
> time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
> Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
> stage...
>
>

And when was the last time they made a 1955 Ford V8? <grin>

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Will Honea wrote:
> I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first
> time I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955
> Ford V8! So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action
> stage...
>
>

And when was the last time they made a 1955 Ford V8? <grin>

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

I think they were still using the same basic engine up till a couple years
ago.

"user" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:edhn9c$oj9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Will Honea wrote:
>> I've been saying the same thing about the engineers since the first time
>> I had to remove the right rear exhaust manifold bolt form a 1955 Ford V8!
>> So far, the message hasn't seemed to progress to the action stage...
>>
>>
>
> And when was the last time they made a 1955 Ford V8? <grin>