Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Hi Billy Ray,

No, the strap does NOT slip when I try to turn it. I've used quite a
bit of force but the filter still didn't budge. I really don't want to
turn it harder because that may collapse the filter.

I'm going to take your advice and take the Liberty to my corner
quickie-lube place and let them fight with it. (When I took it to them
the first time -- at 2,500 miles -- it took them almost an hour to get
the factory-installed oil filter off and they tried a number of
different tools to do it). I'll just tell them to oil the rubber
gasket and to screw the filter on per the instructions on the box.
Hopefully, I can then do the work myself in the future).

Thanks,

Gary


P.S. to Mike: I doubt that leaving the cup (or cap) "broke" the oil
filter. Except for rounding-off the flutes on the filter, I haven't
"damaged" it, either. I think the filter was just screwed on a little
too tight.

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Except for rounding-off the flutes on the filter, I haven't
> "damaged" it, either.

So if the flutes weren't rounded off, it wouldn't be damaged. So since they
are, it is damaged.

I think the filter was just screwed on a little
> too tight.
>
By whom?

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Except for rounding-off the flutes on the filter, I haven't
> "damaged" it, either.

So if the flutes weren't rounded off, it wouldn't be damaged. So since they
are, it is damaged.

I think the filter was just screwed on a little
> too tight.
>
By whom?

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Except for rounding-off the flutes on the filter, I haven't
> "damaged" it, either.

So if the flutes weren't rounded off, it wouldn't be damaged. So since they
are, it is damaged.

I think the filter was just screwed on a little
> too tight.
>
By whom?

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

Except for rounding-off the flutes on the filter, I haven't
> "damaged" it, either.

So if the flutes weren't rounded off, it wouldn't be damaged. So since they
are, it is damaged.

I think the filter was just screwed on a little
> too tight.
>
By whom?

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The first time I tried to change the oil-filter on my new Jeep Liberty,
> I couldn't get the oil-filter off so, after struggling with it for
> hours (it seemed), I ended up taking it to a lube place. (I suspect
> that the oil-filter was installed dry at the factory).
>
> I did the next oil-filter change. I oiled the rubber gasket and
> screwed the filter until it was snug then turned it another 1/8 to 1/4
> turn.
>
> That was only about 3,000 miles ago and 9 months ago -- I only put less
> than 6,000 miles on my Liberty in a year -- so I don't know why it's so
> darn hard now.
>
> P.S. What are "floppy closed pliers". Can you find a picture of one and
> send me the URL?
>
> Thx, Gary

Hi Gary

I couldn't find a floppy wrench similar to mine but you can find
something similar with this link:
http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Tool-Shop/Oil-Filter-Tools
or Google 10784 Draper
It is similar but not identical. I will check mine tonight for a brand
and part number. If it has one, I will forward it.

Merrill

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The first time I tried to change the oil-filter on my new Jeep Liberty,
> I couldn't get the oil-filter off so, after struggling with it for
> hours (it seemed), I ended up taking it to a lube place. (I suspect
> that the oil-filter was installed dry at the factory).
>
> I did the next oil-filter change. I oiled the rubber gasket and
> screwed the filter until it was snug then turned it another 1/8 to 1/4
> turn.
>
> That was only about 3,000 miles ago and 9 months ago -- I only put less
> than 6,000 miles on my Liberty in a year -- so I don't know why it's so
> darn hard now.
>
> P.S. What are "floppy closed pliers". Can you find a picture of one and
> send me the URL?
>
> Thx, Gary

Hi Gary

I couldn't find a floppy wrench similar to mine but you can find
something similar with this link:
http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Tool-Shop/Oil-Filter-Tools
or Google 10784 Draper
It is similar but not identical. I will check mine tonight for a brand
and part number. If it has one, I will forward it.

Merrill

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The first time I tried to change the oil-filter on my new Jeep Liberty,
> I couldn't get the oil-filter off so, after struggling with it for
> hours (it seemed), I ended up taking it to a lube place. (I suspect
> that the oil-filter was installed dry at the factory).
>
> I did the next oil-filter change. I oiled the rubber gasket and
> screwed the filter until it was snug then turned it another 1/8 to 1/4
> turn.
>
> That was only about 3,000 miles ago and 9 months ago -- I only put less
> than 6,000 miles on my Liberty in a year -- so I don't know why it's so
> darn hard now.
>
> P.S. What are "floppy closed pliers". Can you find a picture of one and
> send me the URL?
>
> Thx, Gary

Hi Gary

I couldn't find a floppy wrench similar to mine but you can find
something similar with this link:
http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Tool-Shop/Oil-Filter-Tools
or Google 10784 Draper
It is similar but not identical. I will check mine tonight for a brand
and part number. If it has one, I will forward it.

Merrill

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> The first time I tried to change the oil-filter on my new Jeep Liberty,
> I couldn't get the oil-filter off so, after struggling with it for
> hours (it seemed), I ended up taking it to a lube place. (I suspect
> that the oil-filter was installed dry at the factory).
>
> I did the next oil-filter change. I oiled the rubber gasket and
> screwed the filter until it was snug then turned it another 1/8 to 1/4
> turn.
>
> That was only about 3,000 miles ago and 9 months ago -- I only put less
> than 6,000 miles on my Liberty in a year -- so I don't know why it's so
> darn hard now.
>
> P.S. What are "floppy closed pliers". Can you find a picture of one and
> send me the URL?
>
> Thx, Gary

Hi Gary

I couldn't find a floppy wrench similar to mine but you can find
something similar with this link:
http://www.justoffbase.co.uk/Tool-Shop/Oil-Filter-Tools
or Google 10784 Draper
It is similar but not identical. I will check mine tonight for a brand
and part number. If it has one, I will forward it.

Merrill

Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
 

For the "10784 Draper", see:

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp...&source=affwin

but I don't think there's enough room around the oil filter to swing
the handle.

Gary