Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
10-08-2003 | 02:53 PM
#1
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Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
The plan was to save up the $ to buy a CJ-5 or CJ-7 but I just ran
across one that is VERY local to me...details:
1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
Vehicle Features:
Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!
across one that is VERY local to me...details:
1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
Vehicle Features:
Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!
10-08-2003 | 06:04 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
Obviously look at the pictures and find out what needs to be done to make it
drive. The problem with buying a vehicle that doesn't run is that you can't
check out anything else (tranny, t-case, diffs) by driving it.
You have to take the sellers word for a lot of things.
What axles does it have? Stock would be: Rear- AMC20 Front- Dana 30
Tranny: SR4 or T176 probably
Depending on what he's asking for it, it might be a good deal, assuming you
are ready to do some work to get it running.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4kj8ov0udmpeuiqrj9jecjtdmppus4gg9r@4ax.com...
> The plan was to save up the $ to buy a CJ-5 or CJ-7 but I just ran
> across one that is VERY local to me...details:
>
> 1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
> chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
> hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
> protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
> tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
> steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
>
>
> Vehicle Features:
> Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
> 8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
> Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
> Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
> Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
>
> There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
> asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
>
>
> --
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!
drive. The problem with buying a vehicle that doesn't run is that you can't
check out anything else (tranny, t-case, diffs) by driving it.
You have to take the sellers word for a lot of things.
What axles does it have? Stock would be: Rear- AMC20 Front- Dana 30
Tranny: SR4 or T176 probably
Depending on what he's asking for it, it might be a good deal, assuming you
are ready to do some work to get it running.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4kj8ov0udmpeuiqrj9jecjtdmppus4gg9r@4ax.com...
> The plan was to save up the $ to buy a CJ-5 or CJ-7 but I just ran
> across one that is VERY local to me...details:
>
> 1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
> chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
> hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
> protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
> tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
> steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
>
>
> Vehicle Features:
> Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
> 8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
> Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
> Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
> Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
>
> There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
> asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
>
>
> --
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!
10-08-2003 | 06:04 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
Obviously look at the pictures and find out what needs to be done to make it
drive. The problem with buying a vehicle that doesn't run is that you can't
check out anything else (tranny, t-case, diffs) by driving it.
You have to take the sellers word for a lot of things.
What axles does it have? Stock would be: Rear- AMC20 Front- Dana 30
Tranny: SR4 or T176 probably
Depending on what he's asking for it, it might be a good deal, assuming you
are ready to do some work to get it running.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4kj8ov0udmpeuiqrj9jecjtdmppus4gg9r@4ax.com...
> The plan was to save up the $ to buy a CJ-5 or CJ-7 but I just ran
> across one that is VERY local to me...details:
>
> 1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
> chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
> hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
> protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
> tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
> steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
>
>
> Vehicle Features:
> Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
> 8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
> Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
> Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
> Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
>
> There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
> asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
>
>
> --
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!
drive. The problem with buying a vehicle that doesn't run is that you can't
check out anything else (tranny, t-case, diffs) by driving it.
You have to take the sellers word for a lot of things.
What axles does it have? Stock would be: Rear- AMC20 Front- Dana 30
Tranny: SR4 or T176 probably
Depending on what he's asking for it, it might be a good deal, assuming you
are ready to do some work to get it running.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4kj8ov0udmpeuiqrj9jecjtdmppus4gg9r@4ax.com...
> The plan was to save up the $ to buy a CJ-5 or CJ-7 but I just ran
> across one that is VERY local to me...details:
>
> 1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
> chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
> hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
> protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
> tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
> steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
>
>
> Vehicle Features:
> Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
> 8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
> Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
> Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
> Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
>
> There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
> asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
>
>
> --
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!
10-08-2003 | 06:04 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
Obviously look at the pictures and find out what needs to be done to make it
drive. The problem with buying a vehicle that doesn't run is that you can't
check out anything else (tranny, t-case, diffs) by driving it.
You have to take the sellers word for a lot of things.
What axles does it have? Stock would be: Rear- AMC20 Front- Dana 30
Tranny: SR4 or T176 probably
Depending on what he's asking for it, it might be a good deal, assuming you
are ready to do some work to get it running.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4kj8ov0udmpeuiqrj9jecjtdmppus4gg9r@4ax.com...
> The plan was to save up the $ to buy a CJ-5 or CJ-7 but I just ran
> across one that is VERY local to me...details:
>
> 1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
> chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
> hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
> protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
> tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
> steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
>
>
> Vehicle Features:
> Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
> 8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
> Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
> Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
> Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
>
> There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
> asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
>
>
> --
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!
drive. The problem with buying a vehicle that doesn't run is that you can't
check out anything else (tranny, t-case, diffs) by driving it.
You have to take the sellers word for a lot of things.
What axles does it have? Stock would be: Rear- AMC20 Front- Dana 30
Tranny: SR4 or T176 probably
Depending on what he's asking for it, it might be a good deal, assuming you
are ready to do some work to get it running.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4kj8ov0udmpeuiqrj9jecjtdmppus4gg9r@4ax.com...
> The plan was to save up the $ to buy a CJ-5 or CJ-7 but I just ran
> across one that is VERY local to me...details:
>
> 1980 cj7: 5k on chevy 350 convert 80%complete, 2in lift, 31s, 15x10
> chrome wheels, paint 3yo, no rust, cd, chrome everything, 4spd,
> hardtop, full doors, bikini, rhino lined, diamond plate body
> protection, rancho shocks, wrangler interior, power steering, fan,
> tach, clock, tilt steering wheel, leather wrapped push bar, entry
> steps, laredo package, school + new house = no project money!
>
>
> Vehicle Features:
> Audio with CD/Cassette 2 Door Four Wheel Drive
> 8 Cylinder Engine Unleaded Fuel Power Steering
> Manual Transmission Doors (Full) Full Size Spare
> Hard Top Off Road Lights Oversized Tires
> Roll Bars Spare Tire Cover
>
> There are pictures of it, too, and it looks sharp! I just emailed him
> asking what the extra 20% was that needed to be done...
>
>
> --
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!
10-09-2003 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
8~)>
i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
can't.
my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
--
bob z.
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©
10-09-2003 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
8~)>
i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
can't.
my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
--
bob z.
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©
10-09-2003 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
> Travis
> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
8~)>
i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
can't.
my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
--
bob z.
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©
10-09-2003 | 12:36 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:14:14 -0500, "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org>
shared the following:
>
>
>
>> Travis
>> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>
>Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
>thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
>8~)>
>
>i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
>can't.
>my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
Hey, Bob. Weird seeing you here. :-) Yeah, I'm ready for another
project. RAMVA will get along fine without me. As soon as I said I
was selling my baja, I started getting some less-than-polite feedback
from several people on the group. GreggH was the last straw for me.
I think that I'll wind up fitting into this group better in the long
run, anyway. A couple of guys out here on RAMJW (I think) seem to
think that I'm going to be the "poser" type. :-) I look forward to
making it clear to them that that will *not* be the case. Tell the
RAMVA regulars I'll miss them. You're not in my area (NC) by any
chance are you, Bob?
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!
shared the following:
>
>
>
>> Travis
>> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>
>Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
>thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
>8~)>
>
>i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
>can't.
>my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
Hey, Bob. Weird seeing you here. :-) Yeah, I'm ready for another
project. RAMVA will get along fine without me. As soon as I said I
was selling my baja, I started getting some less-than-polite feedback
from several people on the group. GreggH was the last straw for me.
I think that I'll wind up fitting into this group better in the long
run, anyway. A couple of guys out here on RAMJW (I think) seem to
think that I'm going to be the "poser" type. :-) I look forward to
making it clear to them that that will *not* be the case. Tell the
RAMVA regulars I'll miss them. You're not in my area (NC) by any
chance are you, Bob?
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!
10-09-2003 | 12:36 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:14:14 -0500, "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org>
shared the following:
>
>
>
>> Travis
>> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>
>Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
>thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
>8~)>
>
>i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
>can't.
>my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
Hey, Bob. Weird seeing you here. :-) Yeah, I'm ready for another
project. RAMVA will get along fine without me. As soon as I said I
was selling my baja, I started getting some less-than-polite feedback
from several people on the group. GreggH was the last straw for me.
I think that I'll wind up fitting into this group better in the long
run, anyway. A couple of guys out here on RAMJW (I think) seem to
think that I'm going to be the "poser" type. :-) I look forward to
making it clear to them that that will *not* be the case. Tell the
RAMVA regulars I'll miss them. You're not in my area (NC) by any
chance are you, Bob?
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!
shared the following:
>
>
>
>> Travis
>> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>
>Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
>thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
>8~)>
>
>i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
>can't.
>my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
Hey, Bob. Weird seeing you here. :-) Yeah, I'm ready for another
project. RAMVA will get along fine without me. As soon as I said I
was selling my baja, I started getting some less-than-polite feedback
from several people on the group. GreggH was the last straw for me.
I think that I'll wind up fitting into this group better in the long
run, anyway. A couple of guys out here on RAMJW (I think) seem to
think that I'm going to be the "poser" type. :-) I look forward to
making it clear to them that that will *not* be the case. Tell the
RAMVA regulars I'll miss them. You're not in my area (NC) by any
chance are you, Bob?
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!
10-09-2003 | 12:36 PM
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Re: Oh snap! What should I do!?!?!?
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:14:14 -0500, "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org>
shared the following:
>
>
>
>> Travis
>> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>
>Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
>thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
>8~)>
>
>i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
>can't.
>my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
Hey, Bob. Weird seeing you here. :-) Yeah, I'm ready for another
project. RAMVA will get along fine without me. As soon as I said I
was selling my baja, I started getting some less-than-polite feedback
from several people on the group. GreggH was the last straw for me.
I think that I'll wind up fitting into this group better in the long
run, anyway. A couple of guys out here on RAMJW (I think) seem to
think that I'm going to be the "poser" type. :-) I look forward to
making it clear to them that that will *not* be the case. Tell the
RAMVA regulars I'll miss them. You're not in my area (NC) by any
chance are you, Bob?
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!
shared the following:
>
>
>
>> Travis
>> FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>
>Travis! i can't believe you are selling your bug!!! especially for only a
>thousand dollars!!! what will ramva do without you?
>8~)>
>
>i just bought a jeep rubicon. this thing will definitely go places my bug
>can't.
>my bug might be going up for sale soon, also.
Hey, Bob. Weird seeing you here. :-) Yeah, I'm ready for another
project. RAMVA will get along fine without me. As soon as I said I
was selling my baja, I started getting some less-than-polite feedback
from several people on the group. GreggH was the last straw for me.
I think that I'll wind up fitting into this group better in the long
run, anyway. A couple of guys out here on RAMJW (I think) seem to
think that I'm going to be the "poser" type. :-) I look forward to
making it clear to them that that will *not* be the case. Tell the
RAMVA regulars I'll miss them. You're not in my area (NC) by any
chance are you, Bob?
--
Travis
FOR SALE: '63 VW Camo Baja... $1000 *FIRM*
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2436447561
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
:wq!