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Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
On Mar 8, 11:08 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. We have a lot of farmland not in production because the government pays for its nonuse. Else farmers would overproduce. Biofuels will probably raise commodity prices a little, but the price you pay at the supermarket is not going to be much affected. I expect hemp will be put back once they develop a version which looks different than the THC producing kind so the booze lobby does not stop it. |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
On Mar 8, 11:08 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. We have a lot of farmland not in production because the government pays for its nonuse. Else farmers would overproduce. Biofuels will probably raise commodity prices a little, but the price you pay at the supermarket is not going to be much affected. I expect hemp will be put back once they develop a version which looks different than the THC producing kind so the booze lobby does not stop it. |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com... > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach. > > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really > want to know. Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal heat on a quart of fuel an hour. |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com... > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach. > > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really > want to know. Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal heat on a quart of fuel an hour. |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com... > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach. > > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really > want to know. Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal heat on a quart of fuel an hour. |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it
with all the pollution stuff taken off. So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots that can't pass real pollution controls... Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Bret Ludwig wrote: > On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so >> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that >> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly >> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group. > > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > >> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the >> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each >> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin >> the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it
with all the pollution stuff taken off. So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots that can't pass real pollution controls... Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Bret Ludwig wrote: > On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so >> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that >> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly >> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group. > > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > >> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the >> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each >> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin >> the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it
with all the pollution stuff taken off. So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots that can't pass real pollution controls... Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe.... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Bret Ludwig wrote: > On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so >> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that >> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly >> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group. > > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > >> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the >> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each >> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin >> the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377479.434458.313040@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com... > On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote: > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com... > > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in > > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety > > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are > > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every > > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common > > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to > > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach. > > > > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People > > really want to know. > > > Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something > different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the > oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel > fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal > heat on a quart of fuel an hour. > "Something different planned", uh, huh. A fuel burning cab heater is OK if you pay attention to maintenance. Mechanics that can rebuild an engine or an automatic transmission get all thumbs when faced with one. Earle |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377479.434458.313040@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com... > On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote: > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com... > > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in > > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety > > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are > > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every > > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common > > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to > > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach. > > > > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People > > really want to know. > > > Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something > different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the > oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel > fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal > heat on a quart of fuel an hour. > "Something different planned", uh, huh. A fuel burning cab heater is OK if you pay attention to maintenance. Mechanics that can rebuild an engine or an automatic transmission get all thumbs when faced with one. Earle |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377479.434458.313040@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com... > On Mar 8, 11:57 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote: > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretld...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > news:1173342238.770768.70000@t69g2000cwt.googlegro ups.com... > > ...> Most diesels are made so they can have the sump in the front or in > > > the back and sometimes the middle because they are made for a variety > > > of uses. MBZ insists on putting huge bag sumps on the front. They are > > > the exception. Adapterwise they are not that difficult since every > > > manner of car and light truck was sold somewhere with the more common > > > diesel engines. I don't believe in adapting alien bellhousings to > > > transmissions and prefer the scattershield approach. > > > > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People > > really want to know. > > > Well, I've decided it's not going into a Wrangler. I've got something > different planned, and the engine is mostly together. But using the > oil cooler for cab heat is not a good idea: I bought a Webasto diesel > fuel burning heater from a truck junkyard that will put out colossal > heat on a quart of fuel an hour. > "Something different planned", uh, huh. A fuel burning cab heater is OK if you pay attention to maintenance. Mechanics that can rebuild an engine or an automatic transmission get all thumbs when faced with one. Earle |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377229.965392.307120@q40g2000cwq.googlegr oups.com... > On Mar 8, 11:08 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote: > > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, > > beer. Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity > > "epidemic" in this country. > > > We have a lot of farmland not in production because the government > pays for its nonuse. Else farmers would overproduce. Biofuels will > probably raise commodity prices a little, but the price you pay at the > supermarket is not going to be much affected. I expect hemp will be > put back once they develop a version which looks different than the > THC producing kind so the booze lobby does not stop it. > Biofuels also compete with food production for petroleum... Earle |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377229.965392.307120@q40g2000cwq.googlegr oups.com... > On Mar 8, 11:08 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote: > > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, > > beer. Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity > > "epidemic" in this country. > > > We have a lot of farmland not in production because the government > pays for its nonuse. Else farmers would overproduce. Biofuels will > probably raise commodity prices a little, but the price you pay at the > supermarket is not going to be much affected. I expect hemp will be > put back once they develop a version which looks different than the > THC producing kind so the booze lobby does not stop it. > Biofuels also compete with food production for petroleum... Earle |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173377229.965392.307120@q40g2000cwq.googlegr oups.com... > On Mar 8, 11:08 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote: > > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, > > beer. Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity > > "epidemic" in this country. > > > We have a lot of farmland not in production because the government > pays for its nonuse. Else farmers would overproduce. Biofuels will > probably raise commodity prices a little, but the price you pay at the > supermarket is not going to be much affected. I expect hemp will be > put back once they develop a version which looks different than the > THC producing kind so the booze lobby does not stop it. > Biofuels also compete with food production for petroleum... Earle |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Apparently, we are down to 15 ppm in the States now. You fellows will catch
up soon, maybe. As far as I know, you can't get a "race car or an experimental aircraft" engine into a road vehicle, unless of course you live in the boonies like where I live. I guess with the train belching coal fire smoke all summer long no one would notice. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f05984$0$3969$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it > with all the pollution stuff taken off. > > So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots > that can't pass real pollution controls... > > Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high > sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Bret Ludwig wrote: > > On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so > >> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that > >> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly > >> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group. > > > > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > > bear. > > > >> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > >> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > >> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > >> the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > > more in off road recreational use. > > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Apparently, we are down to 15 ppm in the States now. You fellows will catch
up soon, maybe. As far as I know, you can't get a "race car or an experimental aircraft" engine into a road vehicle, unless of course you live in the boonies like where I live. I guess with the train belching coal fire smoke all summer long no one would notice. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f05984$0$3969$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it > with all the pollution stuff taken off. > > So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots > that can't pass real pollution controls... > > Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high > sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Bret Ludwig wrote: > > On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so > >> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that > >> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly > >> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group. > > > > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > > bear. > > > >> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > >> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > >> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > >> the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > > more in off road recreational use. > > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Apparently, we are down to 15 ppm in the States now. You fellows will catch
up soon, maybe. As far as I know, you can't get a "race car or an experimental aircraft" engine into a road vehicle, unless of course you live in the boonies like where I live. I guess with the train belching coal fire smoke all summer long no one would notice. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:45f05984$0$3969$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > Wow, so now you are saying it is cool to import a stinkpot and run it > with all the pollution stuff taken off. > > So it would appear you actually like the black smoke belching stink pots > that can't pass real pollution controls... > > Have you ever had the misfortune to be behind one running our high > sulfur fuel? It is an 'experience' hard to describe.... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Bret Ludwig wrote: > > On Mar 8, 9:05 am, Lon <lon.stow...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Our USofA has decreed that sulfur must be removed as of mumble mumble so > >> those new urea injecting style diesels can run on it. Rumor is that > >> benz may be making some much bigger diesels available soon now--possibly > >> to stay in competition with the big V-10s available from the VW group. > > > > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > > bear. > > > >> If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > >> electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > >> wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > >> the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > > more in off road recreational use. > > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
At least we can burn firewood to keep warm.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:2I6dnR-Z5dNt6HLYnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com... > I have been there. You can see the mountains, but when you are coming down > into the valley from the mountains you can see that something is different > down there, just like you can with Denver. I may have exaggerated a little > bit. The tourist from L.A. only had to take a couple of breaths from the > bus exhaust to clear his head. > > ;^) > > Earle > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45ef50b1$0$16387$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > Hi Earle, > > You know that hasn't been true in twenty years, we can see the > > mountains, now. > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > > news:87udnaUsw8E213LYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with > > a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night > > in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
At least we can burn firewood to keep warm.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:2I6dnR-Z5dNt6HLYnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com... > I have been there. You can see the mountains, but when you are coming down > into the valley from the mountains you can see that something is different > down there, just like you can with Denver. I may have exaggerated a little > bit. The tourist from L.A. only had to take a couple of breaths from the > bus exhaust to clear his head. > > ;^) > > Earle > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45ef50b1$0$16387$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > Hi Earle, > > You know that hasn't been true in twenty years, we can see the > > mountains, now. > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > > news:87udnaUsw8E213LYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with > > a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night > > in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
At least we can burn firewood to keep warm.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:2I6dnR-Z5dNt6HLYnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com... > I have been there. You can see the mountains, but when you are coming down > into the valley from the mountains you can see that something is different > down there, just like you can with Denver. I may have exaggerated a little > bit. The tourist from L.A. only had to take a couple of breaths from the > bus exhaust to clear his head. > > ;^) > > Earle > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:45ef50b1$0$16387$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > Hi Earle, > > You know that hasn't been true in twenty years, we can see the > > mountains, now. > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > > news:87udnaUsw8E213LYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with > > a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night > > in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
That is a fact our 85% has made the poor Mexicans south of the border
unable to buy tortillas. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:bbidnZoDp-6R3W3YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com... > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. > > Earle > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ldidndF8u6L5u23YnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Run bio diesel. > > > > Earle Horton proclaimed: > > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:45ef469b$0$4966$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > > > > > >>I would love to run Diesel if it wasn't so bad smelling. I am a low rpm > > >>torque lover. No problems for a generator or even furnace, but Jeep, > > >>nope.... We get enough fumes if the wind is wrong with just a gas > > >>engine if running solo, let alone in groups. Our Canadian stuff is > > >>almost half sulfur I think. Apparently they would have to double the > > >>price or something like that to clean it up... ;-) > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >>Spdloader wrote: > > >> > > >>>I must admit, I, too have considered some type of diesel swap into my > > > > > > latest > > > > > >>>'87 CJ project. > > >>>I didn't consider the "stinkin' people out" side of it, but I don't > > > > > > wheel in > > > > > >>>large groups like that anyway. > > >>> > > >>>Spdloader > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > >>>news:45eed1d5$0$18152$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newsho sting.com... > > >>> > > >>>>I'll bite for the Troll. > > >>>> > > >>>>Just how many of the various stink pots will actually 'fit' in a Jeep, > > > > > > eh? > > > > > >>>>There is this slight issue with oil pan clearances and adapters. > > > > > > Despite > > > > > >>>>your racist take on the companies that make adapters, they obviously > > > > > > are > > > > > >>>>smart enough to know stupidity when they see it. Means they are > still > > >>>>smarter than you Bret... > > >>>> > > >>>>And who would want to 'always' have to bring up the end of the line > > >>>>forever when off road or even on a road trip because they stink out > the > > >>>>'real' Jeeps behind them too much with their belching of black smoke. > > >>>> > > >>>>Until the oil companies clean up their Diesel, it will never be a > > > > > > welcome > > > > > >>>>addition to any of the Jeep runs we go on, except to tag along at the > > > > > > end > > > > > >>>>like I mentioned. > > >>>> > > >>>>Here in Canada, it is impossible to even follow a city bus in traffic > > > > > > in > > > > > >>>>an open top Jeep, let along have to gag along behind one on the trail. > > >>>> > > >>>>And Yes Bret, this have been brought up every time you post this troll > > > > > > by > > > > > >>>>not just me. > > >>>> > > >>>>Now if you have the money to but one of these 'new' engines that > > >>>>supposedly don't smoke 'as bad', others have posted that they still > get > > >>>>sent to the back of the line because of stench. > > >>>> > > >>>>Mike > > >>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >>>> > > >>>>Bret Ludwig wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>"Diesels are neat. They power some amazing equipment. There is no > > >>>>>doubt that diesels can offer great economy, but the question is, > "What > > >>>>>diesel engines are available for Jeep conversions that are: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> common across the nation > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right size > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right weight > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> have a broad enough operating range for a multi-use vehicle > such > > >>>>>as a Jeep > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> affordable to buy > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> compatible with transmissions that must also meet the above > > >>>>>requirements" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Let's see: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Isuzu-several > > >>>>> Nissan-SD25, SD33T > > >>>>> Mercedes-OM617 > > >>>>> Mitsubishi-several > > >>>>> Perkins-still out there, low power-but FACTORY in CJs > > >>>>> VW-maybe for a flatfender > > >>>>> Peugeot-don't laugh, common in Bobcats! > > >>>>> Cummins-OK if trans upgraded, heavy, loud > > >>>>> Volvo-same as Cummins > > >>>>> Detroit Diesel, Cat, Mack-NO!!! > > >>>>> Iveco-possible > > >>>>> > > >>>>> How many do you need? > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
That is a fact our 85% has made the poor Mexicans south of the border
unable to buy tortillas. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:bbidnZoDp-6R3W3YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com... > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. > > Earle > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ldidndF8u6L5u23YnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Run bio diesel. > > > > Earle Horton proclaimed: > > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:45ef469b$0$4966$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > > > > > >>I would love to run Diesel if it wasn't so bad smelling. I am a low rpm > > >>torque lover. No problems for a generator or even furnace, but Jeep, > > >>nope.... We get enough fumes if the wind is wrong with just a gas > > >>engine if running solo, let alone in groups. Our Canadian stuff is > > >>almost half sulfur I think. Apparently they would have to double the > > >>price or something like that to clean it up... ;-) > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >>Spdloader wrote: > > >> > > >>>I must admit, I, too have considered some type of diesel swap into my > > > > > > latest > > > > > >>>'87 CJ project. > > >>>I didn't consider the "stinkin' people out" side of it, but I don't > > > > > > wheel in > > > > > >>>large groups like that anyway. > > >>> > > >>>Spdloader > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > >>>news:45eed1d5$0$18152$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newsho sting.com... > > >>> > > >>>>I'll bite for the Troll. > > >>>> > > >>>>Just how many of the various stink pots will actually 'fit' in a Jeep, > > > > > > eh? > > > > > >>>>There is this slight issue with oil pan clearances and adapters. > > > > > > Despite > > > > > >>>>your racist take on the companies that make adapters, they obviously > > > > > > are > > > > > >>>>smart enough to know stupidity when they see it. Means they are > still > > >>>>smarter than you Bret... > > >>>> > > >>>>And who would want to 'always' have to bring up the end of the line > > >>>>forever when off road or even on a road trip because they stink out > the > > >>>>'real' Jeeps behind them too much with their belching of black smoke. > > >>>> > > >>>>Until the oil companies clean up their Diesel, it will never be a > > > > > > welcome > > > > > >>>>addition to any of the Jeep runs we go on, except to tag along at the > > > > > > end > > > > > >>>>like I mentioned. > > >>>> > > >>>>Here in Canada, it is impossible to even follow a city bus in traffic > > > > > > in > > > > > >>>>an open top Jeep, let along have to gag along behind one on the trail. > > >>>> > > >>>>And Yes Bret, this have been brought up every time you post this troll > > > > > > by > > > > > >>>>not just me. > > >>>> > > >>>>Now if you have the money to but one of these 'new' engines that > > >>>>supposedly don't smoke 'as bad', others have posted that they still > get > > >>>>sent to the back of the line because of stench. > > >>>> > > >>>>Mike > > >>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >>>> > > >>>>Bret Ludwig wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>"Diesels are neat. They power some amazing equipment. There is no > > >>>>>doubt that diesels can offer great economy, but the question is, > "What > > >>>>>diesel engines are available for Jeep conversions that are: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> common across the nation > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right size > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right weight > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> have a broad enough operating range for a multi-use vehicle > such > > >>>>>as a Jeep > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> affordable to buy > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> compatible with transmissions that must also meet the above > > >>>>>requirements" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Let's see: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Isuzu-several > > >>>>> Nissan-SD25, SD33T > > >>>>> Mercedes-OM617 > > >>>>> Mitsubishi-several > > >>>>> Perkins-still out there, low power-but FACTORY in CJs > > >>>>> VW-maybe for a flatfender > > >>>>> Peugeot-don't laugh, common in Bobcats! > > >>>>> Cummins-OK if trans upgraded, heavy, loud > > >>>>> Volvo-same as Cummins > > >>>>> Detroit Diesel, Cat, Mack-NO!!! > > >>>>> Iveco-possible > > >>>>> > > >>>>> How many do you need? > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
That is a fact our 85% has made the poor Mexicans south of the border
unable to buy tortillas. God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:bbidnZoDp-6R3W3YnZ2dnUVZ_ompnZ2d@comcast.com... > Bio diesel sounds great on paper but it competes with food and worse, beer. > Maybe if food were more expensive it would help the obesity "epidemic" in > this country. > > Earle > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:ldidndF8u6L5u23YnZ2dnUVZ_v7inZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Run bio diesel. > > > > Earle Horton proclaimed: > > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" it > is. > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > difference > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > with a > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > night in > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > who > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to call > the > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:45ef469b$0$4966$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com... > > > > > >>I would love to run Diesel if it wasn't so bad smelling. I am a low rpm > > >>torque lover. No problems for a generator or even furnace, but Jeep, > > >>nope.... We get enough fumes if the wind is wrong with just a gas > > >>engine if running solo, let alone in groups. Our Canadian stuff is > > >>almost half sulfur I think. Apparently they would have to double the > > >>price or something like that to clean it up... ;-) > > >> > > >>Mike > > >> > > >>Spdloader wrote: > > >> > > >>>I must admit, I, too have considered some type of diesel swap into my > > > > > > latest > > > > > >>>'87 CJ project. > > >>>I didn't consider the "stinkin' people out" side of it, but I don't > > > > > > wheel in > > > > > >>>large groups like that anyway. > > >>> > > >>>Spdloader > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > >>>news:45eed1d5$0$18152$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newsho sting.com... > > >>> > > >>>>I'll bite for the Troll. > > >>>> > > >>>>Just how many of the various stink pots will actually 'fit' in a Jeep, > > > > > > eh? > > > > > >>>>There is this slight issue with oil pan clearances and adapters. > > > > > > Despite > > > > > >>>>your racist take on the companies that make adapters, they obviously > > > > > > are > > > > > >>>>smart enough to know stupidity when they see it. Means they are > still > > >>>>smarter than you Bret... > > >>>> > > >>>>And who would want to 'always' have to bring up the end of the line > > >>>>forever when off road or even on a road trip because they stink out > the > > >>>>'real' Jeeps behind them too much with their belching of black smoke. > > >>>> > > >>>>Until the oil companies clean up their Diesel, it will never be a > > > > > > welcome > > > > > >>>>addition to any of the Jeep runs we go on, except to tag along at the > > > > > > end > > > > > >>>>like I mentioned. > > >>>> > > >>>>Here in Canada, it is impossible to even follow a city bus in traffic > > > > > > in > > > > > >>>>an open top Jeep, let along have to gag along behind one on the trail. > > >>>> > > >>>>And Yes Bret, this have been brought up every time you post this troll > > > > > > by > > > > > >>>>not just me. > > >>>> > > >>>>Now if you have the money to but one of these 'new' engines that > > >>>>supposedly don't smoke 'as bad', others have posted that they still > get > > >>>>sent to the back of the line because of stench. > > >>>> > > >>>>Mike > > >>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > >>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > >>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > >>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > >>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >>>> > > >>>>Bret Ludwig wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>>"Diesels are neat. They power some amazing equipment. There is no > > >>>>>doubt that diesels can offer great economy, but the question is, > "What > > >>>>>diesel engines are available for Jeep conversions that are: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> common across the nation > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right size > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> the right weight > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> have a broad enough operating range for a multi-use vehicle > such > > >>>>>as a Jeep > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> affordable to buy > > >>>>> * > > >>>>> > > >>>>> compatible with transmissions that must also meet the above > > >>>>>requirements" > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Let's see: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Isuzu-several > > >>>>> Nissan-SD25, SD33T > > >>>>> Mercedes-OM617 > > >>>>> Mitsubishi-several > > >>>>> Perkins-still out there, low power-but FACTORY in CJs > > >>>>> VW-maybe for a flatfender > > >>>>> Peugeot-don't laugh, common in Bobcats! > > >>>>> Cummins-OK if trans upgraded, heavy, loud > > >>>>> Volvo-same as Cummins > > >>>>> Detroit Diesel, Cat, Mack-NO!!! > > >>>>> Iveco-possible > > >>>>> > > >>>>> How many do you need? > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... > California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... > California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... > California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > > > > > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > > the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > > > > > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > > the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... > It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over > there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you > get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn > regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them > it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is > prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older > chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service > Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US > format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average > bear. > > > > > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the > > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each > > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin > > the bearings on an Indy Racer. > > > That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel > drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC > gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly > poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. > They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. > > I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and > Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen > more in off road recreational use. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:Ys2dnQcNH7ns1m3YnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really > want to know. > > Cheers, > > Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:Ys2dnQcNH7ns1m3YnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really > want to know. > > Cheers, > > Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
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God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:Ys2dnQcNH7ns1m3YnZ2dnUVZ_sGqnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > How's the Deutz Wrangler with oil-cooled cab heater coming? People really > want to know. > > Cheers, > > Earle -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
And for all 2007MY diesel engines. Around here it's all you can buy now.
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06228$0$16321$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... >> California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
And for all 2007MY diesel engines. Around here it's all you can buy now.
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06228$0$16321$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... >> California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
And for all 2007MY diesel engines. Around here it's all you can buy now.
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06228$0$16321$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel for Real Truckers. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:yuidnV8MQdimwnLYnZ2dnUVZ_s-rnZ2d@comcast.com... >> California required ULSD on September 1, 2006. > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
We can burn firewood, coal, any damn thing.
Earle "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06216$0$16375$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > At least we can burn firewood to keep warm. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:2I6dnR-Z5dNt6HLYnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I have been there. You can see the mountains, but when you are coming > down > > into the valley from the mountains you can see that something is different > > down there, just like you can with Denver. I may have exaggerated a > little > > bit. The tourist from L.A. only had to take a couple of breaths from the > > bus exhaust to clear his head. > > > > ;^) > > > > Earle > > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:45ef50b1$0$16387$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > Hi Earle, > > > You know that hasn't been true in twenty years, we can see the > > > mountains, now. > > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > > > news:87udnaUsw8E213LYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" > it > > > is. > > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > > > difference > > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > > with > > > a > > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > > night > > > in > > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > > who > > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to > call > > > the > > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
We can burn firewood, coal, any damn thing.
Earle "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06216$0$16375$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > At least we can burn firewood to keep warm. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:2I6dnR-Z5dNt6HLYnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I have been there. You can see the mountains, but when you are coming > down > > into the valley from the mountains you can see that something is different > > down there, just like you can with Denver. I may have exaggerated a > little > > bit. The tourist from L.A. only had to take a couple of breaths from the > > bus exhaust to clear his head. > > > > ;^) > > > > Earle > > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:45ef50b1$0$16387$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > Hi Earle, > > > You know that hasn't been true in twenty years, we can see the > > > mountains, now. > > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > > > news:87udnaUsw8E213LYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" > it > > > is. > > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > > > difference > > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > > with > > > a > > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > > night > > > in > > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > > who > > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to > call > > > the > > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
We can burn firewood, coal, any damn thing.
Earle "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06216$0$16375$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > At least we can burn firewood to keep warm. > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:2I6dnR-Z5dNt6HLYnZ2dnUVZ_qSrnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I have been there. You can see the mountains, but when you are coming > down > > into the valley from the mountains you can see that something is different > > down there, just like you can with Denver. I may have exaggerated a > little > > bit. The tourist from L.A. only had to take a couple of breaths from the > > bus exhaust to clear his head. > > > > ;^) > > > > Earle > > > > "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:45ef50b1$0$16387$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > Hi Earle, > > > You know that hasn't been true in twenty years, we can see the > > > mountains, now. > > > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > > > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > > > news:87udnaUsw8E213LYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > We have low sulfur road fuel in the U.S. now. I don't know how "low" > it > > > is. > > > > I rented a diesel Golf in Spain last year, and you can smell the > > > difference > > > > between that and a gasoline car. I don't know what it would be like > > with > > > a > > > > whole city full of them. They don't even have that in Europe. One > > night > > > in > > > > the bus station in Burgos, I was talking to a fellow tourist from L.A. > > who > > > > was having difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to > call > > > the > > > > ambulancia, but he stuck his face down by the bus exhausts for a few > > > > minutes. "There, that's better", he said. > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Now Bill..... Isn't that truck pulling a weight sled?
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06234$0$16376$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... >> It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over >> there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you >> get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn >> regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them >> it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is >> prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older >> chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service >> Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US >> format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average >> bear. >> >> > >> > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the >> > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each >> > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin >> > the bearings on an Indy Racer. >> >> >> That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel >> drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC >> gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly >> poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. >> They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. >> >> I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and >> Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen >> more in off road recreational use. >> > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
Re: Novak has pulled their heads out-a little
Now Bill..... Isn't that truck pulling a weight sled?
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:45f06234$0$16376$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 > mailto:-------------------- > > "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:1173376964.026418.129960@64g2000cwx.googlegro ups.com... >> It's easy to get all the common rail engines over here-junkyards over >> there will crate them up complete with ECM and harnesses. And if you >> get rid of the catalysts, particulate traps and EGR they will burn >> regular fuel. The EPA has nothing to say about it if you tell them >> it's for a race car or an experimental aircraft at Customs. EPA is >> prohibited from messing with those. If you are going into an older >> chassis, KKKalifornia can be stumped if the engine is a "Service >> Replacement Block" engine. Which since Euro engines do not have a US >> format VIN they all are. You just have to be smarter than the average >> bear. >> >> > >> > If you really want high rpm torque, put in a diesel-electric where the >> > electric motors have max torque at stall. And put one in for each >> > wheel. Or put in a turbine which can generate enough torque to ruin >> > the bearings on an Indy Racer. >> >> >> That's a myth that has persisted forty years now! The four wheel >> drive STP racer (which took the pole on a junk unairworthy engine PWC >> gave Granatelli to shut him up) broke bearings because of exceedingly >> poor chassis design, NOT because of the mighty torque of the PT6A. >> They refused to put U-joints at the transfer case. >> >> I am kind of surprised that with all the junk unairworthy Allison and >> Lycoming helo engines floating on the surplus market we haven't seen >> more in off road recreational use. >> > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > |
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