Stupendous Man wrote:
> > Diesels last longer because the use twice the filters an a American
> > manufacturer knows the public would maintain on an gasoline engine:
>
> My 63 190D went 774,000 miles without major engine repair on virtually the
> same oil-bath they used on the gas engines which were lucky to see 300,000
> miles.

I used to work on the military version of the Thermo King reefer unit
that used these early pushrod OMs. They would run forever, some of ours
had 50,000 hours on only one cylinder head and injector refurb. But
the pushrod OM Benzes would flatly not get out of their own way, just
like a Real Jeep.

The later OHC OMs like 616 and 617 are a lot better especially put
into the old chassis like the Heckflosse and Ponton. Biggest problem is
the front oil sump and chain driven oil pump that hangs down in there
like a basset hound's nut sack. 4WD vehicles tend to have front axles
that go right where the sump does. Other than that those diesel Benz
motors would be great for jeeps, especially the old flatfenders. I
really think the old mechanical Benz OM diesels are the most reliable
car engines in the history of automobile manufacture. Unlike the
inadequate girlie-motor small block Chevy with its poopy stud rockers,
crappy valve guides, inadequate rod bolts, EIIEEIIE valve arrangement
that results in cast exhaust manifolds forever warping, and oil pumps
the factory admits need pressure relief grooving and the pickup brazed
into the pump housing but they don't. (See Chevy Power manual.)

 

Stupendous Man wrote:
> > Diesels last longer because the use twice the filters an a American
> > manufacturer knows the public would maintain on an gasoline engine:
>
> My 63 190D went 774,000 miles without major engine repair on virtually the
> same oil-bath they used on the gas engines which were lucky to see 300,000
> miles.

I used to work on the military version of the Thermo King reefer unit
that used these early pushrod OMs. They would run forever, some of ours
had 50,000 hours on only one cylinder head and injector refurb. But
the pushrod OM Benzes would flatly not get out of their own way, just
like a Real Jeep.

The later OHC OMs like 616 and 617 are a lot better especially put
into the old chassis like the Heckflosse and Ponton. Biggest problem is
the front oil sump and chain driven oil pump that hangs down in there
like a basset hound's nut sack. 4WD vehicles tend to have front axles
that go right where the sump does. Other than that those diesel Benz
motors would be great for jeeps, especially the old flatfenders. I
really think the old mechanical Benz OM diesels are the most reliable
car engines in the history of automobile manufacture. Unlike the
inadequate girlie-motor small block Chevy with its poopy stud rockers,
crappy valve guides, inadequate rod bolts, EIIEEIIE valve arrangement
that results in cast exhaust manifolds forever warping, and oil pumps
the factory admits need pressure relief grooving and the pickup brazed
into the pump housing but they don't. (See Chevy Power manual.)

 

Stupendous Man wrote:
> > Diesels last longer because the use twice the filters an a American
> > manufacturer knows the public would maintain on an gasoline engine:
>
> My 63 190D went 774,000 miles without major engine repair on virtually the
> same oil-bath they used on the gas engines which were lucky to see 300,000
> miles.

I used to work on the military version of the Thermo King reefer unit
that used these early pushrod OMs. They would run forever, some of ours
had 50,000 hours on only one cylinder head and injector refurb. But
the pushrod OM Benzes would flatly not get out of their own way, just
like a Real Jeep.

The later OHC OMs like 616 and 617 are a lot better especially put
into the old chassis like the Heckflosse and Ponton. Biggest problem is
the front oil sump and chain driven oil pump that hangs down in there
like a basset hound's nut sack. 4WD vehicles tend to have front axles
that go right where the sump does. Other than that those diesel Benz
motors would be great for jeeps, especially the old flatfenders. I
really think the old mechanical Benz OM diesels are the most reliable
car engines in the history of automobile manufacture. Unlike the
inadequate girlie-motor small block Chevy with its poopy stud rockers,
crappy valve guides, inadequate rod bolts, EIIEEIIE valve arrangement
that results in cast exhaust manifolds forever warping, and oil pumps
the factory admits need pressure relief grooving and the pickup brazed
into the pump housing but they don't. (See Chevy Power manual.)

 

I hate to bust your bubble over and over again, BUT the over head
cam engines are just glorified Honda motorcycle SMOG engines made to
satisfy the Liberal wacko ecologist. If you want Real Power in a new car
choose a pushrod engine form GM:
http://www.----------.com/temp/ZO6engine.jpg Ford:
http://www.----------.com/temp/FordGTEngine.jpg Daimler:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiEngine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> I used to work on the military version of the Thermo King reefer unit
> that used these early pushrod OMs. They would run forever, some of ours
> had 50,000 hours on only one cylinder head and injector refurb. But
> the pushrod OM Benzes would flatly not get out of their own way, just
> like a Real Jeep.
>
> The later OHC OMs like 616 and 617 are a lot better especially put
> into the old chassis like the Heckflosse and Ponton. Biggest problem is
> the front oil sump and chain driven oil pump that hangs down in there
> like a basset hound's nut sack. 4WD vehicles tend to have front axles
> that go right where the sump does. Other than that those diesel Benz
> motors would be great for jeeps, especially the old flatfenders. I
> really think the old mechanical Benz OM diesels are the most reliable
> car engines in the history of automobile manufacture. Unlike the
> inadequate girlie-motor small block Chevy with its poopy stud rockers,
> crappy valve guides, inadequate rod bolts, EIIEEIIE valve arrangement
> that results in cast exhaust manifolds forever warping, and oil pumps
> the factory admits need pressure relief grooving and the pickup brazed
> into the pump housing but they don't. (See Chevy Power manual.)

 

I hate to bust your bubble over and over again, BUT the over head
cam engines are just glorified Honda motorcycle SMOG engines made to
satisfy the Liberal wacko ecologist. If you want Real Power in a new car
choose a pushrod engine form GM:
http://www.----------.com/temp/ZO6engine.jpg Ford:
http://www.----------.com/temp/FordGTEngine.jpg Daimler:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiEngine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> I used to work on the military version of the Thermo King reefer unit
> that used these early pushrod OMs. They would run forever, some of ours
> had 50,000 hours on only one cylinder head and injector refurb. But
> the pushrod OM Benzes would flatly not get out of their own way, just
> like a Real Jeep.
>
> The later OHC OMs like 616 and 617 are a lot better especially put
> into the old chassis like the Heckflosse and Ponton. Biggest problem is
> the front oil sump and chain driven oil pump that hangs down in there
> like a basset hound's nut sack. 4WD vehicles tend to have front axles
> that go right where the sump does. Other than that those diesel Benz
> motors would be great for jeeps, especially the old flatfenders. I
> really think the old mechanical Benz OM diesels are the most reliable
> car engines in the history of automobile manufacture. Unlike the
> inadequate girlie-motor small block Chevy with its poopy stud rockers,
> crappy valve guides, inadequate rod bolts, EIIEEIIE valve arrangement
> that results in cast exhaust manifolds forever warping, and oil pumps
> the factory admits need pressure relief grooving and the pickup brazed
> into the pump housing but they don't. (See Chevy Power manual.)

 

I hate to bust your bubble over and over again, BUT the over head
cam engines are just glorified Honda motorcycle SMOG engines made to
satisfy the Liberal wacko ecologist. If you want Real Power in a new car
choose a pushrod engine form GM:
http://www.----------.com/temp/ZO6engine.jpg Ford:
http://www.----------.com/temp/FordGTEngine.jpg Daimler:
http://www.----------.com/temp/hemiEngine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> I used to work on the military version of the Thermo King reefer unit
> that used these early pushrod OMs. They would run forever, some of ours
> had 50,000 hours on only one cylinder head and injector refurb. But
> the pushrod OM Benzes would flatly not get out of their own way, just
> like a Real Jeep.
>
> The later OHC OMs like 616 and 617 are a lot better especially put
> into the old chassis like the Heckflosse and Ponton. Biggest problem is
> the front oil sump and chain driven oil pump that hangs down in there
> like a basset hound's nut sack. 4WD vehicles tend to have front axles
> that go right where the sump does. Other than that those diesel Benz
> motors would be great for jeeps, especially the old flatfenders. I
> really think the old mechanical Benz OM diesels are the most reliable
> car engines in the history of automobile manufacture. Unlike the
> inadequate girlie-motor small block Chevy with its poopy stud rockers,
> crappy valve guides, inadequate rod bolts, EIIEEIIE valve arrangement
> that results in cast exhaust manifolds forever warping, and oil pumps
> the factory admits need pressure relief grooving and the pickup brazed
> into the pump housing but they don't. (See Chevy Power manual.)

 

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43E1788A.CF0EDE1E@***.net...
> I think they are calling it coal shale:
> http://www.p2ric.org/Roundtable/other_resource.cfm

Nope, Alberta has oil sands, sandy soil with a high concentration of natural
bitumen. http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/89.asp

Please cite a source for liberal-wacko US-funded coal-to-diesel programs in
Canada.

> You wouldn't work your store on the six percent margin they have
> been doing. If you think they're making so much, invest in the stock,
> that's whom owns Exxon.

Exxon is not a good buy, the price is too high. Should have bought this time
last year, the return since then has been 24% I believe. And I think it was
closer to a 10% margin last year. Major retailers regularly work on less
than 4%.

> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Maybe the oil companies should invest in refining it, they've certainly
>> got
>> the capital...
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11098458/
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:43E1516C.B0053146@***.net...
>> > It's an expensive way of refinement, but the liberal wackos are
>> > spending my tax moneys in Canada to do just that!
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Dave Milne wrote:
>> >>
>> >> our diesel doesn't come from coal if that's where your point is
>> >> headed.
>> >>
>> >> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ