newbie question
02-16-2005 | 10:07 PM
#11
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Re: newbie question
Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
Tracker and Ford Escape.
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
Tracker and Ford Escape.
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
02-16-2005 | 10:07 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: newbie question
Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
Tracker and Ford Escape.
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
Tracker and Ford Escape.
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
02-16-2005 | 10:07 PM
#13
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Re: newbie question
Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
Tracker and Ford Escape.
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
Tracker and Ford Escape.
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
02-16-2005 | 11:54 PM
#14
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Re: newbie question
Ditto, I believe the Cherokee, Explorer, or Dodge Durango would be
too small, too.
Good choice to getting out of the van, three where killed here in
San Diego yesterday, when they hit a stalled truck, that could only have
only have happen to in van.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
> would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
too small, too.
Good choice to getting out of the van, three where killed here in
San Diego yesterday, when they hit a stalled truck, that could only have
only have happen to in van.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
> would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
02-16-2005 | 11:54 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: newbie question
Ditto, I believe the Cherokee, Explorer, or Dodge Durango would be
too small, too.
Good choice to getting out of the van, three where killed here in
San Diego yesterday, when they hit a stalled truck, that could only have
only have happen to in van.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
> would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
too small, too.
Good choice to getting out of the van, three where killed here in
San Diego yesterday, when they hit a stalled truck, that could only have
only have happen to in van.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
> would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
02-16-2005 | 11:54 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: newbie question
Ditto, I believe the Cherokee, Explorer, or Dodge Durango would be
too small, too.
Good choice to getting out of the van, three where killed here in
San Diego yesterday, when they hit a stalled truck, that could only have
only have happen to in van.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
> would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
too small, too.
Good choice to getting out of the van, three where killed here in
San Diego yesterday, when they hit a stalled truck, that could only have
only have happen to in van.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Have you sat in the Liberty? I wouldn't think you would be comfortable. I
> would recommend a Chevy Tahoe.
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
> 4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
> 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
> Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
>
> 00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
> 4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
> 33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
> D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
02-17-2005 | 12:04 AM
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: newbie question
With the Sentry alarm at least the Cherokee moves the peddles, seat
and mirrors to driver's preference.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
> have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
> peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
> she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
> moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
> for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
> like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
> Tracker and Ford Escape.
>
> "flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
> >
> > I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> > question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> > Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> > highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> > decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> > that
> > ikea crap. LOL
> > The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> > 270.
> > I am in law enforcement.
> > Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> > make
> > it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> > guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> > wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> > dont
> > know if this is really true.
> > I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> > needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> > caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> > point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> > fix
> > anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
> >
> > Thanks for any information.
> >
> >
and mirrors to driver's preference.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
> have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
> peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
> she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
> moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
> for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
> like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
> Tracker and Ford Escape.
>
> "flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
> >
> > I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> > question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> > Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> > highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> > decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> > that
> > ikea crap. LOL
> > The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> > 270.
> > I am in law enforcement.
> > Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> > make
> > it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> > guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> > wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> > dont
> > know if this is really true.
> > I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> > needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> > caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> > point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> > fix
> > anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
> >
> > Thanks for any information.
> >
> >
02-17-2005 | 12:04 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: newbie question
With the Sentry alarm at least the Cherokee moves the peddles, seat
and mirrors to driver's preference.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
> have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
> peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
> she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
> moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
> for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
> like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
> Tracker and Ford Escape.
>
> "flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
> >
> > I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> > question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> > Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> > highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> > decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> > that
> > ikea crap. LOL
> > The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> > 270.
> > I am in law enforcement.
> > Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> > make
> > it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> > guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> > wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> > dont
> > know if this is really true.
> > I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> > needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> > caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> > point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> > fix
> > anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
> >
> > Thanks for any information.
> >
> >
and mirrors to driver's preference.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
> have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
> peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
> she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
> moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
> for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
> like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
> Tracker and Ford Escape.
>
> "flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
> >
> > I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> > question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> > Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> > highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> > decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> > that
> > ikea crap. LOL
> > The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> > 270.
> > I am in law enforcement.
> > Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> > make
> > it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> > guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> > wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> > dont
> > know if this is really true.
> > I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> > needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> > caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> > point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> > fix
> > anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
> >
> > Thanks for any information.
> >
> >
02-17-2005 | 12:04 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: newbie question
With the Sentry alarm at least the Cherokee moves the peddles, seat
and mirrors to driver's preference.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
> have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
> peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
> she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
> moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
> for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
> like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
> Tracker and Ford Escape.
>
> "flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
> >
> > I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> > question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> > Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> > highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> > decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> > that
> > ikea crap. LOL
> > The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> > 270.
> > I am in law enforcement.
> > Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> > make
> > it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> > guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> > wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> > dont
> > know if this is really true.
> > I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> > needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> > caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> > point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> > fix
> > anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
> >
> > Thanks for any information.
> >
> >
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Greg wrote:
>
> Wife and I took a liberty for a test drive, I'm 6'1", she's 5'6", I didn't
> have any problems, but she had to move the seat so far forward to use
> peddles that when she went to get out her leg hit the steering column, so
> she had to move seat back, as this was going to be mainly her daily driver,
> moving the seat eveytime she got in and out wouldn't be practicle, but as
> for power, of the 4 vehicles we took for a test drive it had the most, felt
> like I could squeal the tires if I wanted to, other 3 were a Jeep TJ, Chevy
> Tracker and Ford Escape.
>
> "flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
> >
> > I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> > question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> > Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> > highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> > decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> > that
> > ikea crap. LOL
> > The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> > 270.
> > I am in law enforcement.
> > Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> > make
> > it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> > guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> > wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> > dont
> > know if this is really true.
> > I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> > needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> > caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> > point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> > fix
> > anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
> >
> > Thanks for any information.
> >
> >
02-17-2005 | 05:10 AM
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Re: newbie question
The Highlander (HL) is closer in comparison to the Grand Cherokee than it is
the Liberty (LIB). The HL is roughly 10" longer than the LIB which
translates into better ride and more cargo room. Seating accomadation is
almost identicle with the LIB giving an extra 3/4" in headroom. You would
think it would be more considering the LIB is 3" taller than the HL!
Power and fuel economy both go to the HL. Comparing 4 cyl. models, the HL
claims 10 more HP, and is the same 165 lbft torque at 4000 rpm. The V6
comparison numbers are even more impressive for the HL 3.3L 230HP vs. the
LIB 3.7 210HP. The HL is one of the most fuel efficiant SUV's on the market
at 22/27 city/hwy for the 2.4L and 17/22 for the 3.3L. The LIB is 21/26 for
the 2.4 and 17/22 for the 3.7. Keep in mind the HL has a higher rated HP
and is roughly 160 lbs heavier than the LIB.
Fit and finish of the HL is light years better than the LIB.
Resale value leans heavily toward the HL and can erase the initial price
difference (roughly $2000 more) if you decide to sell or trade within 1-7
years.
The LIB gets a bad rap off-road among Jeep owners because of it's
independent front suspension (as is 99% of the market) but it is still one
of the best (albeit crude and outdated) 4 wheel drive systems. It's in 4wd
or it's not, simple and dependable. Can't say anything good or bad about the
HL off-road, I don't think anybody has ever seen one perform on anything
more rugged the a poorly maintained gravel parking lot.
If I had to decide between these vehicles for your criteria (daily driver,
no off-road), I'd go for the HL. Toyota is reknown for excellent customer
satisfaction, top notch quality, reasonable maintenance and repair costs and
outstanding resall value.
-Brian
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>
the Liberty (LIB). The HL is roughly 10" longer than the LIB which
translates into better ride and more cargo room. Seating accomadation is
almost identicle with the LIB giving an extra 3/4" in headroom. You would
think it would be more considering the LIB is 3" taller than the HL!
Power and fuel economy both go to the HL. Comparing 4 cyl. models, the HL
claims 10 more HP, and is the same 165 lbft torque at 4000 rpm. The V6
comparison numbers are even more impressive for the HL 3.3L 230HP vs. the
LIB 3.7 210HP. The HL is one of the most fuel efficiant SUV's on the market
at 22/27 city/hwy for the 2.4L and 17/22 for the 3.3L. The LIB is 21/26 for
the 2.4 and 17/22 for the 3.7. Keep in mind the HL has a higher rated HP
and is roughly 160 lbs heavier than the LIB.
Fit and finish of the HL is light years better than the LIB.
Resale value leans heavily toward the HL and can erase the initial price
difference (roughly $2000 more) if you decide to sell or trade within 1-7
years.
The LIB gets a bad rap off-road among Jeep owners because of it's
independent front suspension (as is 99% of the market) but it is still one
of the best (albeit crude and outdated) 4 wheel drive systems. It's in 4wd
or it's not, simple and dependable. Can't say anything good or bad about the
HL off-road, I don't think anybody has ever seen one perform on anything
more rugged the a poorly maintained gravel parking lot.
If I had to decide between these vehicles for your criteria (daily driver,
no off-road), I'd go for the HL. Toyota is reknown for excellent customer
satisfaction, top notch quality, reasonable maintenance and repair costs and
outstanding resall value.
-Brian
"flatfoot2" <flatfoot2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nnSQd.55831$8a6.20719@trndny09...
>
> I hope I am not disturbing this group by asking a sensitive
> question, but here goes. My wife and I have been looking for a new car.
> Final two cars in consideration are the jeep liberty and the toyota
> highlander. No off roading, but we need something small, that also has a
> decent amount of space in it, for camping and my wifes trips to pick up
> that
> ikea crap. LOL
> The question is, is that I am a large guy. I am 6 foot 4, and
> 270.
> I am in law enforcement.
> Is the jeep liberty built in such a way as to
> make
> it stronger , and less prone to suspension problems, when carrying a big
> guy, over potholed city roads, then a highlander, or am I looking up the
> wrong road. The liberty is heavier, and seems to be heavier duty, but I
> dont
> know if this is really true.
> I also, like the idea of having true four wheel drive if
> needed to get to work in inclement weather. My other car is a 1991 dodge
> caravan with 175,000 miles on and still runs decently, but is nearing the
> point of giving up the ghost, with muliple problems, that doesnt pay to
> fix
> anymore, and will let it run its course till it quits on me.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
>