Lets Talk Jacks
11-21-2003 | 08:15 PM
#61
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Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the high-lift only
when there is no other choice.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
>>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
>>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
>>
>>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
>>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
>>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
>>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
>>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
>>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
>>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
>>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
>>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
>>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
>>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
>>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
>>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
>>jacks under
>>> the passenger seat instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
>>stored
>>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>> >>
>>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
>>been
>>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
>>brand
>>> >>that
>>> >>> >is a better choice?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
>>changing
>>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>> >>extremely
>>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
>>kill
>>> >>you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>> >>never
>>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>> >>Hi-Lift
>>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
>>whether
>>> >>you
>>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
>>own
>>> >>from a
>>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Robert Bills
>>> >>> KG6LMV
>>> >>> Orange County CA
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>
when there is no other choice.
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the trail?
>>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he suggests
>>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
>>
>>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool, but I
>>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it presents. I
>>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I needed
>>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and put
>>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it couldn't
>>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could not
>>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
>>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
>>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near by
>>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and use
>>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
>>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
>>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get bottle
>>jacks under
>>> the passenger seat instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that is
>>stored
>>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
>>> >>
>>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that could
>>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
>>been
>>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
>>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
>>brand
>>> >>that
>>> >>> >is a better choice?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
>>changing
>>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix, and
>>> >>extremely
>>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle can
>>kill
>>> >>you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most Hi-Lifts
>>> >>never
>>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get the
>>> >>Hi-Lift
>>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
>>whether
>>> >>you
>>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make your
>>own
>>> >>from a
>>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Robert Bills
>>> >>> KG6LMV
>>> >>> Orange County CA
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
>>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
>>>
11-22-2003 | 02:41 PM
#65
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Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Me, too. Sometimes there is just no substitute for a high-lift.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com...
> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the
trail?
> >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he
suggests
> >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
> >>
> >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool,
but I
> >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it
presents. I
> >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I
needed
> >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and
put
> >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it
couldn't
> >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could
not
> >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
> >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
> >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near
by
> >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and
use
> >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
> >>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get
bottle
> >>jacks under
> >>> the passenger seat instead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that
is
> >>stored
> >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that
could
> >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
> >>been
> >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
> >>brand
> >>> >>that
> >>> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
> >>changing
> >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix,
and
> >>> >>extremely
> >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle
can
> >>kill
> >>> >>you.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most
Hi-Lifts
> >>> >>never
> >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get
the
> >>> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
> >>whether
> >>> >>you
> >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make
your
> >>own
> >>> >>from a
> >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> >>> Orange County CA
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
> >>>
>
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com...
> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the
trail?
> >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he
suggests
> >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
> >>
> >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool,
but I
> >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it
presents. I
> >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I
needed
> >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and
put
> >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it
couldn't
> >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could
not
> >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
> >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
> >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near
by
> >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and
use
> >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
> >>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get
bottle
> >>jacks under
> >>> the passenger seat instead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that
is
> >>stored
> >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that
could
> >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
> >>been
> >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
> >>brand
> >>> >>that
> >>> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
> >>changing
> >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix,
and
> >>> >>extremely
> >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle
can
> >>kill
> >>> >>you.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most
Hi-Lifts
> >>> >>never
> >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get
the
> >>> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
> >>whether
> >>> >>you
> >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make
your
> >>own
> >>> >>from a
> >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> >>> Orange County CA
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
> >>>
>
11-22-2003 | 02:41 PM
#66
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Me, too. Sometimes there is just no substitute for a high-lift.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com...
> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the
trail?
> >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he
suggests
> >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
> >>
> >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool,
but I
> >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it
presents. I
> >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I
needed
> >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and
put
> >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it
couldn't
> >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could
not
> >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
> >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
> >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near
by
> >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and
use
> >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
> >>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get
bottle
> >>jacks under
> >>> the passenger seat instead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that
is
> >>stored
> >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that
could
> >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
> >>been
> >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
> >>brand
> >>> >>that
> >>> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
> >>changing
> >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix,
and
> >>> >>extremely
> >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle
can
> >>kill
> >>> >>you.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most
Hi-Lifts
> >>> >>never
> >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get
the
> >>> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
> >>whether
> >>> >>you
> >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make
your
> >>own
> >>> >>from a
> >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> >>> Orange County CA
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
> >>>
>
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com...
> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the
trail?
> >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he
suggests
> >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
> >>
> >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool,
but I
> >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it
presents. I
> >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I
needed
> >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and
put
> >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it
couldn't
> >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could
not
> >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
> >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
> >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near
by
> >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and
use
> >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
> >>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get
bottle
> >>jacks under
> >>> the passenger seat instead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that
is
> >>stored
> >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that
could
> >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
> >>been
> >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
> >>brand
> >>> >>that
> >>> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
> >>changing
> >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix,
and
> >>> >>extremely
> >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle
can
> >>kill
> >>> >>you.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most
Hi-Lifts
> >>> >>never
> >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get
the
> >>> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
> >>whether
> >>> >>you
> >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make
your
> >>own
> >>> >>from a
> >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> >>> Orange County CA
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
> >>>
>
11-22-2003 | 02:41 PM
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Lets Talk Jacks
Me, too. Sometimes there is just no substitute for a high-lift.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com...
> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the
trail?
> >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he
suggests
> >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
> >>
> >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool,
but I
> >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it
presents. I
> >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I
needed
> >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and
put
> >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it
couldn't
> >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could
not
> >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
> >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
> >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near
by
> >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and
use
> >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
> >>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get
bottle
> >>jacks under
> >>> the passenger seat instead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that
is
> >>stored
> >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that
could
> >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
> >>been
> >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
> >>brand
> >>> >>that
> >>> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
> >>changing
> >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix,
and
> >>> >>extremely
> >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle
can
> >>kill
> >>> >>you.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most
Hi-Lifts
> >>> >>never
> >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get
the
> >>> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
> >>whether
> >>> >>you
> >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make
your
> >>own
> >>> >>from a
> >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> >>> Orange County CA
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
> >>>
>
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:mkatrv8sc20jldlsrv8vqmcnd8vmvakevb@4ax.com...
> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:37:22 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>Whatever, why would one need to go get another bottle jack for the
trail?
> >>Robert has a CJ similar to mine, and he has a scissor jack, and he
suggests
> >>that a bottle jack is better than a HiLift.
> >>
> >>I happen to agree with his positin that a HiLift is a dangerous tool,
but I
> >>think it is a vitally necessary tool despite the danger that it
presents. I
> >>know the dangers, and I take steps to mitigate them. For example, I
needed
> >>to do repairs on my CJ on the trail one day, so I took the tire off and
put
> >>it under my Jeep and then let my Jeep down on the tire so that it
couldn't
> >>fall off the HiLift jack. but, I have been stuck in places where I could
not
> >>strap out, and my HiLift was the only tool that would work. And, on that
> >>day, I had to jack to the top of the jack (without a doubt the most
> >>dangerous use of the HiLift that we can do), then tie my Jeep to a near
by
> >>tree to hold it up so that I could move the jack to another location and
use
> >>it to the top yet again. I had to repeat this three or four times, and a
> >>bottle jack would not have done the trick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >>news:4vusrv4godhbfc5tmvnauj5v8f7jldhtbk@4ax.com. ..
> >>> Uh, CRWLR....TJ's dont have scissor jacks under the hood. We get
bottle
> >>jacks under
> >>> the passenger seat instead.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:15:03 -0800, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>Why do you need a bottle jack? Won't the factory scissor jack that
is
> >>stored
> >>> >>in the engine bay going to do the same type of job?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have been stuck on rocks where my HiLift is the only tool that
could
> >>> >>possibly gotten me unstuck. Well, a heavy lift helicoptor might have
> >>been
> >>> >>better suited, but they are never around when you need them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>"Robert Bills" <rdbillsjr@aol.comxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> >>news:20031121121926.25936.00000727@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >>> >>> >1) Is the Hi-Lift brand the brand to buy or is there another
> >>brand
> >>> >>that
> >>> >>> >is a better choice?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Get a good bottle jack instead. A Hi-Lift is nearly useless for
> >>changing
> >>> >>> tires, totally useless for supporting an axle during a trail fix,
and
> >>> >>extremely
> >>> >>> unstable when jacked up. If it breaks free, the flailing handle
can
> >>kill
> >>> >>you.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Although some will say this is heresy, the truth is that most
Hi-Lifts
> >>> >>never
> >>> >>> get used and are mounted just to make a jeep look "rugged."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> If you must get what is generically called a farmer's jack, get
the
> >>> >>Hi-Lift
> >>> >>> brand. For the use (or non-use) you will give it, it won't matter
> >>whether
> >>> >>you
> >>> >>> get the cast iron or all steel version.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> As for accessories, the oversize foot is nice, but you can make
your
> >>own
> >>> >>from a
> >>> >>> 12"x12" piece of 1" plywood.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Robert Bills
> >>> >>> KG6LMV
> >>> >>> Orange County CA
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/...p-l/billsr.htm
> >>> >>> http://www.RobertBills.com
> >>>
>
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
That's when I use mine too. It's better than getting my wife to lift while I
drive ...
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
That's when I use mine too. It's better than getting my wife to lift while I
drive ...
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"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
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> Very true. I carry both. The stock bottle and a hi-lift. Use the
high-lift only
> when there is no other choice.
>
>
That's when I use mine too. It's better than getting my wife to lift while I
drive ...
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