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Re: JGC
Troy proclaimed:
> I have a truck but I'm itchin to trade it in for a grand cherokee... I know
> nothing about them though.
> Well I know I want the v8 for towing and 4wd just in case my tj doesn't make
> it for some reason. Anything anyone can suggest I watch out for? I'm
> looking for a used one, not the new ones with ifs... I like the older bubbly
> body style I've seen, its slightly newer.
The original Grand Cherokee was the ZJ introduced in 93 and reasonably
well fixed up by 95. This is a more squared off look, which any true
Grand afficiando would consider the most attractive of the series, if
somewhat dated. Then the WJ series was introduced. This kinda looks
like a ZJ that someone overinflated, suspect this is the bubbly style
you speak of. The 4.0 liter 6 is pretty good in the older ZJ, a bit
dated for the WJ. The V8s range from the old Chrysler 318 to a 5.9
that arguably may be the best V8 prior to the Hemi. The V8's can tow
a bit more.
The Grand Cherokee was gussied up to be a luxury jeep, so the name
"Grand" obviously refers to what it will cost you, in particular on
the Limited and Overland models, if any of those automated gewgaws
decide to turn to magic smoke. A grand here, a grand there,
with special caution for the auto temp control models with the Info
panel. In practice if it is busted or anything at all doesn't work,
run, do not walk, away unless you are handy at replacing under dash
components. Some of the WJ's have brake rotors made out of tinfoil
that any hamfisted tire jockey can warp. If a proper torque wrench
is used, this doesn't tend to happen and the cure is available with
any good aftermarket rotor. Some tire jockeys also lift them without
checking proper lift points... the axles do NOT like to have
themselves hoisted by the pumpkins.
The ride tends to be optimized for hopping really bumpy gravel or
baseball sized rock fields, which can be a bit jiggly on the street.
Easily cured with the Edelbrock IAS shocks, or if you prefer a really
firm ride, the Rancho RS9000SX Adjustables.
Some of the catalysts tend to be a bit shortlived, best replaced
under warranty or with a top notch aftermarket.
The crank position sensor gets flakey if you ever get liquid anywhere
near it.
Some folks never take care of them, some maintain them meticulously.
Avoid any that have signs of abuse. If you feel ANY vibration at
50-60 mph, walk away or be prepared to replace front end parts. If
you feel any brake pulsation at moderate stops, walk away or be
prepared to fix warped rotors.
I've seen some Grands with heavily oxidised paint, avoid them as
it means the owner was a jerk. It is also possible to find a very
early model with immaculate original paint.
An extremely high grin factor available the first time you take it
onto moderately rough trails. Don't challenge a SWB and you are
more likely to appreciate the Grand.
The models with the skid plates and tow packages seem to work pretty
well.
Any water or musty smell near the passenger carpet means the previous
owner was an idiot, as it is easily fixed. Avoid.
If possible make sure you get a good Jeep mechanic, in particular one
familiar with the electronics of the Grand, to perform a good pre
buy inspection and if they warn you off of a particular unit, pay
attention. There are lots of the things out there at good prices in
top condition that will give you years of fun and reliable service,
and unfortunately there are a few lemons or abused ones as well.
> I have a truck but I'm itchin to trade it in for a grand cherokee... I know
> nothing about them though.
> Well I know I want the v8 for towing and 4wd just in case my tj doesn't make
> it for some reason. Anything anyone can suggest I watch out for? I'm
> looking for a used one, not the new ones with ifs... I like the older bubbly
> body style I've seen, its slightly newer.
The original Grand Cherokee was the ZJ introduced in 93 and reasonably
well fixed up by 95. This is a more squared off look, which any true
Grand afficiando would consider the most attractive of the series, if
somewhat dated. Then the WJ series was introduced. This kinda looks
like a ZJ that someone overinflated, suspect this is the bubbly style
you speak of. The 4.0 liter 6 is pretty good in the older ZJ, a bit
dated for the WJ. The V8s range from the old Chrysler 318 to a 5.9
that arguably may be the best V8 prior to the Hemi. The V8's can tow
a bit more.
The Grand Cherokee was gussied up to be a luxury jeep, so the name
"Grand" obviously refers to what it will cost you, in particular on
the Limited and Overland models, if any of those automated gewgaws
decide to turn to magic smoke. A grand here, a grand there,
with special caution for the auto temp control models with the Info
panel. In practice if it is busted or anything at all doesn't work,
run, do not walk, away unless you are handy at replacing under dash
components. Some of the WJ's have brake rotors made out of tinfoil
that any hamfisted tire jockey can warp. If a proper torque wrench
is used, this doesn't tend to happen and the cure is available with
any good aftermarket rotor. Some tire jockeys also lift them without
checking proper lift points... the axles do NOT like to have
themselves hoisted by the pumpkins.
The ride tends to be optimized for hopping really bumpy gravel or
baseball sized rock fields, which can be a bit jiggly on the street.
Easily cured with the Edelbrock IAS shocks, or if you prefer a really
firm ride, the Rancho RS9000SX Adjustables.
Some of the catalysts tend to be a bit shortlived, best replaced
under warranty or with a top notch aftermarket.
The crank position sensor gets flakey if you ever get liquid anywhere
near it.
Some folks never take care of them, some maintain them meticulously.
Avoid any that have signs of abuse. If you feel ANY vibration at
50-60 mph, walk away or be prepared to replace front end parts. If
you feel any brake pulsation at moderate stops, walk away or be
prepared to fix warped rotors.
I've seen some Grands with heavily oxidised paint, avoid them as
it means the owner was a jerk. It is also possible to find a very
early model with immaculate original paint.
An extremely high grin factor available the first time you take it
onto moderately rough trails. Don't challenge a SWB and you are
more likely to appreciate the Grand.
The models with the skid plates and tow packages seem to work pretty
well.
Any water or musty smell near the passenger carpet means the previous
owner was an idiot, as it is easily fixed. Avoid.
If possible make sure you get a good Jeep mechanic, in particular one
familiar with the electronics of the Grand, to perform a good pre
buy inspection and if they warn you off of a particular unit, pay
attention. There are lots of the things out there at good prices in
top condition that will give you years of fun and reliable service,
and unfortunately there are a few lemons or abused ones as well.
#12
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Re: JGC
Troy proclaimed:
> I have a truck but I'm itchin to trade it in for a grand cherokee... I know
> nothing about them though.
> Well I know I want the v8 for towing and 4wd just in case my tj doesn't make
> it for some reason. Anything anyone can suggest I watch out for? I'm
> looking for a used one, not the new ones with ifs... I like the older bubbly
> body style I've seen, its slightly newer.
The original Grand Cherokee was the ZJ introduced in 93 and reasonably
well fixed up by 95. This is a more squared off look, which any true
Grand afficiando would consider the most attractive of the series, if
somewhat dated. Then the WJ series was introduced. This kinda looks
like a ZJ that someone overinflated, suspect this is the bubbly style
you speak of. The 4.0 liter 6 is pretty good in the older ZJ, a bit
dated for the WJ. The V8s range from the old Chrysler 318 to a 5.9
that arguably may be the best V8 prior to the Hemi. The V8's can tow
a bit more.
The Grand Cherokee was gussied up to be a luxury jeep, so the name
"Grand" obviously refers to what it will cost you, in particular on
the Limited and Overland models, if any of those automated gewgaws
decide to turn to magic smoke. A grand here, a grand there,
with special caution for the auto temp control models with the Info
panel. In practice if it is busted or anything at all doesn't work,
run, do not walk, away unless you are handy at replacing under dash
components. Some of the WJ's have brake rotors made out of tinfoil
that any hamfisted tire jockey can warp. If a proper torque wrench
is used, this doesn't tend to happen and the cure is available with
any good aftermarket rotor. Some tire jockeys also lift them without
checking proper lift points... the axles do NOT like to have
themselves hoisted by the pumpkins.
The ride tends to be optimized for hopping really bumpy gravel or
baseball sized rock fields, which can be a bit jiggly on the street.
Easily cured with the Edelbrock IAS shocks, or if you prefer a really
firm ride, the Rancho RS9000SX Adjustables.
Some of the catalysts tend to be a bit shortlived, best replaced
under warranty or with a top notch aftermarket.
The crank position sensor gets flakey if you ever get liquid anywhere
near it.
Some folks never take care of them, some maintain them meticulously.
Avoid any that have signs of abuse. If you feel ANY vibration at
50-60 mph, walk away or be prepared to replace front end parts. If
you feel any brake pulsation at moderate stops, walk away or be
prepared to fix warped rotors.
I've seen some Grands with heavily oxidised paint, avoid them as
it means the owner was a jerk. It is also possible to find a very
early model with immaculate original paint.
An extremely high grin factor available the first time you take it
onto moderately rough trails. Don't challenge a SWB and you are
more likely to appreciate the Grand.
The models with the skid plates and tow packages seem to work pretty
well.
Any water or musty smell near the passenger carpet means the previous
owner was an idiot, as it is easily fixed. Avoid.
If possible make sure you get a good Jeep mechanic, in particular one
familiar with the electronics of the Grand, to perform a good pre
buy inspection and if they warn you off of a particular unit, pay
attention. There are lots of the things out there at good prices in
top condition that will give you years of fun and reliable service,
and unfortunately there are a few lemons or abused ones as well.
> I have a truck but I'm itchin to trade it in for a grand cherokee... I know
> nothing about them though.
> Well I know I want the v8 for towing and 4wd just in case my tj doesn't make
> it for some reason. Anything anyone can suggest I watch out for? I'm
> looking for a used one, not the new ones with ifs... I like the older bubbly
> body style I've seen, its slightly newer.
The original Grand Cherokee was the ZJ introduced in 93 and reasonably
well fixed up by 95. This is a more squared off look, which any true
Grand afficiando would consider the most attractive of the series, if
somewhat dated. Then the WJ series was introduced. This kinda looks
like a ZJ that someone overinflated, suspect this is the bubbly style
you speak of. The 4.0 liter 6 is pretty good in the older ZJ, a bit
dated for the WJ. The V8s range from the old Chrysler 318 to a 5.9
that arguably may be the best V8 prior to the Hemi. The V8's can tow
a bit more.
The Grand Cherokee was gussied up to be a luxury jeep, so the name
"Grand" obviously refers to what it will cost you, in particular on
the Limited and Overland models, if any of those automated gewgaws
decide to turn to magic smoke. A grand here, a grand there,
with special caution for the auto temp control models with the Info
panel. In practice if it is busted or anything at all doesn't work,
run, do not walk, away unless you are handy at replacing under dash
components. Some of the WJ's have brake rotors made out of tinfoil
that any hamfisted tire jockey can warp. If a proper torque wrench
is used, this doesn't tend to happen and the cure is available with
any good aftermarket rotor. Some tire jockeys also lift them without
checking proper lift points... the axles do NOT like to have
themselves hoisted by the pumpkins.
The ride tends to be optimized for hopping really bumpy gravel or
baseball sized rock fields, which can be a bit jiggly on the street.
Easily cured with the Edelbrock IAS shocks, or if you prefer a really
firm ride, the Rancho RS9000SX Adjustables.
Some of the catalysts tend to be a bit shortlived, best replaced
under warranty or with a top notch aftermarket.
The crank position sensor gets flakey if you ever get liquid anywhere
near it.
Some folks never take care of them, some maintain them meticulously.
Avoid any that have signs of abuse. If you feel ANY vibration at
50-60 mph, walk away or be prepared to replace front end parts. If
you feel any brake pulsation at moderate stops, walk away or be
prepared to fix warped rotors.
I've seen some Grands with heavily oxidised paint, avoid them as
it means the owner was a jerk. It is also possible to find a very
early model with immaculate original paint.
An extremely high grin factor available the first time you take it
onto moderately rough trails. Don't challenge a SWB and you are
more likely to appreciate the Grand.
The models with the skid plates and tow packages seem to work pretty
well.
Any water or musty smell near the passenger carpet means the previous
owner was an idiot, as it is easily fixed. Avoid.
If possible make sure you get a good Jeep mechanic, in particular one
familiar with the electronics of the Grand, to perform a good pre
buy inspection and if they warn you off of a particular unit, pay
attention. There are lots of the things out there at good prices in
top condition that will give you years of fun and reliable service,
and unfortunately there are a few lemons or abused ones as well.
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: JGC
Troy proclaimed:
> I have a truck but I'm itchin to trade it in for a grand cherokee... I know
> nothing about them though.
> Well I know I want the v8 for towing and 4wd just in case my tj doesn't make
> it for some reason. Anything anyone can suggest I watch out for? I'm
> looking for a used one, not the new ones with ifs... I like the older bubbly
> body style I've seen, its slightly newer.
The original Grand Cherokee was the ZJ introduced in 93 and reasonably
well fixed up by 95. This is a more squared off look, which any true
Grand afficiando would consider the most attractive of the series, if
somewhat dated. Then the WJ series was introduced. This kinda looks
like a ZJ that someone overinflated, suspect this is the bubbly style
you speak of. The 4.0 liter 6 is pretty good in the older ZJ, a bit
dated for the WJ. The V8s range from the old Chrysler 318 to a 5.9
that arguably may be the best V8 prior to the Hemi. The V8's can tow
a bit more.
The Grand Cherokee was gussied up to be a luxury jeep, so the name
"Grand" obviously refers to what it will cost you, in particular on
the Limited and Overland models, if any of those automated gewgaws
decide to turn to magic smoke. A grand here, a grand there,
with special caution for the auto temp control models with the Info
panel. In practice if it is busted or anything at all doesn't work,
run, do not walk, away unless you are handy at replacing under dash
components. Some of the WJ's have brake rotors made out of tinfoil
that any hamfisted tire jockey can warp. If a proper torque wrench
is used, this doesn't tend to happen and the cure is available with
any good aftermarket rotor. Some tire jockeys also lift them without
checking proper lift points... the axles do NOT like to have
themselves hoisted by the pumpkins.
The ride tends to be optimized for hopping really bumpy gravel or
baseball sized rock fields, which can be a bit jiggly on the street.
Easily cured with the Edelbrock IAS shocks, or if you prefer a really
firm ride, the Rancho RS9000SX Adjustables.
Some of the catalysts tend to be a bit shortlived, best replaced
under warranty or with a top notch aftermarket.
The crank position sensor gets flakey if you ever get liquid anywhere
near it.
Some folks never take care of them, some maintain them meticulously.
Avoid any that have signs of abuse. If you feel ANY vibration at
50-60 mph, walk away or be prepared to replace front end parts. If
you feel any brake pulsation at moderate stops, walk away or be
prepared to fix warped rotors.
I've seen some Grands with heavily oxidised paint, avoid them as
it means the owner was a jerk. It is also possible to find a very
early model with immaculate original paint.
An extremely high grin factor available the first time you take it
onto moderately rough trails. Don't challenge a SWB and you are
more likely to appreciate the Grand.
The models with the skid plates and tow packages seem to work pretty
well.
Any water or musty smell near the passenger carpet means the previous
owner was an idiot, as it is easily fixed. Avoid.
If possible make sure you get a good Jeep mechanic, in particular one
familiar with the electronics of the Grand, to perform a good pre
buy inspection and if they warn you off of a particular unit, pay
attention. There are lots of the things out there at good prices in
top condition that will give you years of fun and reliable service,
and unfortunately there are a few lemons or abused ones as well.
> I have a truck but I'm itchin to trade it in for a grand cherokee... I know
> nothing about them though.
> Well I know I want the v8 for towing and 4wd just in case my tj doesn't make
> it for some reason. Anything anyone can suggest I watch out for? I'm
> looking for a used one, not the new ones with ifs... I like the older bubbly
> body style I've seen, its slightly newer.
The original Grand Cherokee was the ZJ introduced in 93 and reasonably
well fixed up by 95. This is a more squared off look, which any true
Grand afficiando would consider the most attractive of the series, if
somewhat dated. Then the WJ series was introduced. This kinda looks
like a ZJ that someone overinflated, suspect this is the bubbly style
you speak of. The 4.0 liter 6 is pretty good in the older ZJ, a bit
dated for the WJ. The V8s range from the old Chrysler 318 to a 5.9
that arguably may be the best V8 prior to the Hemi. The V8's can tow
a bit more.
The Grand Cherokee was gussied up to be a luxury jeep, so the name
"Grand" obviously refers to what it will cost you, in particular on
the Limited and Overland models, if any of those automated gewgaws
decide to turn to magic smoke. A grand here, a grand there,
with special caution for the auto temp control models with the Info
panel. In practice if it is busted or anything at all doesn't work,
run, do not walk, away unless you are handy at replacing under dash
components. Some of the WJ's have brake rotors made out of tinfoil
that any hamfisted tire jockey can warp. If a proper torque wrench
is used, this doesn't tend to happen and the cure is available with
any good aftermarket rotor. Some tire jockeys also lift them without
checking proper lift points... the axles do NOT like to have
themselves hoisted by the pumpkins.
The ride tends to be optimized for hopping really bumpy gravel or
baseball sized rock fields, which can be a bit jiggly on the street.
Easily cured with the Edelbrock IAS shocks, or if you prefer a really
firm ride, the Rancho RS9000SX Adjustables.
Some of the catalysts tend to be a bit shortlived, best replaced
under warranty or with a top notch aftermarket.
The crank position sensor gets flakey if you ever get liquid anywhere
near it.
Some folks never take care of them, some maintain them meticulously.
Avoid any that have signs of abuse. If you feel ANY vibration at
50-60 mph, walk away or be prepared to replace front end parts. If
you feel any brake pulsation at moderate stops, walk away or be
prepared to fix warped rotors.
I've seen some Grands with heavily oxidised paint, avoid them as
it means the owner was a jerk. It is also possible to find a very
early model with immaculate original paint.
An extremely high grin factor available the first time you take it
onto moderately rough trails. Don't challenge a SWB and you are
more likely to appreciate the Grand.
The models with the skid plates and tow packages seem to work pretty
well.
Any water or musty smell near the passenger carpet means the previous
owner was an idiot, as it is easily fixed. Avoid.
If possible make sure you get a good Jeep mechanic, in particular one
familiar with the electronics of the Grand, to perform a good pre
buy inspection and if they warn you off of a particular unit, pay
attention. There are lots of the things out there at good prices in
top condition that will give you years of fun and reliable service,
and unfortunately there are a few lemons or abused ones as well.
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