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Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 02:30 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20ca238ccc8591b0989693@news-server.woh.rr.com...
>> thats just not true sir. while using propane in either system (for this
>> application) is indeed nothing short of stupid, there are many compatible
>> refrigerants that will work as well (and in most cases, _better_) in
>> either
>> application.

>
> Really? Who aside from maybe one shop in a given location will service
> it? Totally defeats the purpose of using the cheaper refrigerant when
> the one service shop that can service it will no doubt rape you.


not really the point in my response. i was simply making the point that
there _are_ alternatives that arent "stupid" at all and in fact will offer
better cooling than either while coming in much cheaper than 12. r414b is a
beautiful refrigerant that i purchase for well below $200 for 30#. r416a
(while not intended for use in automotive applications) is another one that
works great. the only reason 134a is so common is because it became the
standard before others existed and it too will be phased out.

--
Nathan In Montana
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Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 02:30 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20ca238ccc8591b0989693@news-server.woh.rr.com...
>> thats just not true sir. while using propane in either system (for this
>> application) is indeed nothing short of stupid, there are many compatible
>> refrigerants that will work as well (and in most cases, _better_) in
>> either
>> application.

>
> Really? Who aside from maybe one shop in a given location will service
> it? Totally defeats the purpose of using the cheaper refrigerant when
> the one service shop that can service it will no doubt rape you.


not really the point in my response. i was simply making the point that
there _are_ alternatives that arent "stupid" at all and in fact will offer
better cooling than either while coming in much cheaper than 12. r414b is a
beautiful refrigerant that i purchase for well below $200 for 30#. r416a
(while not intended for use in automotive applications) is another one that
works great. the only reason 134a is so common is because it became the
standard before others existed and it too will be phased out.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com



Nathan W. Collier 06-01-2007 02:30 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
"Heatwave" <m3lt1ng5n0wmen@wah00.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20ca238ccc8591b0989693@news-server.woh.rr.com...
>> thats just not true sir. while using propane in either system (for this
>> application) is indeed nothing short of stupid, there are many compatible
>> refrigerants that will work as well (and in most cases, _better_) in
>> either
>> application.

>
> Really? Who aside from maybe one shop in a given location will service
> it? Totally defeats the purpose of using the cheaper refrigerant when
> the one service shop that can service it will no doubt rape you.


not really the point in my response. i was simply making the point that
there _are_ alternatives that arent "stupid" at all and in fact will offer
better cooling than either while coming in much cheaper than 12. r414b is a
beautiful refrigerant that i purchase for well below $200 for 30#. r416a
(while not intended for use in automotive applications) is another one that
works great. the only reason 134a is so common is because it became the
standard before others existed and it too will be phased out.

--
Nathan In Montana
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
http://1911Talk.com
http://HiPowerTalk.com
http://GlockCarry.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com



nrs 06-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
On May 31, 10:00 pm, "abomb69" <a...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


Real Jeeps donīt have no stinkin' air conditioning.
Ha, ha. ;-) Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist!

Seriously though, if you are in a hot area you may be close to the US/
Mexico border. Just take a trip south and get it.


nrs 06-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
On May 31, 10:00 pm, "abomb69" <a...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


Real Jeeps donīt have no stinkin' air conditioning.
Ha, ha. ;-) Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist!

Seriously though, if you are in a hot area you may be close to the US/
Mexico border. Just take a trip south and get it.


nrs 06-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
On May 31, 10:00 pm, "abomb69" <a...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


Real Jeeps donīt have no stinkin' air conditioning.
Ha, ha. ;-) Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist!

Seriously though, if you are in a hot area you may be close to the US/
Mexico border. Just take a trip south and get it.


nrs 06-01-2007 03:18 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
On May 31, 10:00 pm, "abomb69" <a...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Anyone know were I can get R-12 Freon ? I want to recharge my 93 Cherokee
> and I dont want to retrofit it.


Real Jeeps donīt have no stinkin' air conditioning.
Ha, ha. ;-) Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist!

Seriously though, if you are in a hot area you may be close to the US/
Mexico border. Just take a trip south and get it.


Craig Christian 06-01-2007 04:04 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
nrs wrote:
> Real Jeeps donīt have no stinkin' air conditioning.
> Ha, ha. ;-) Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist!
>
> Seriously though, if you are in a hot area you may be close to the US/
> Mexico border. Just take a trip south and get it.



There's a reason it's illegal. And it's a *good* reason. There are
alternatives that are less destructive.

Come on. Be good to the Earth. It's the only one.


:-)
Craig C.


Craig Christian 06-01-2007 04:04 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
nrs wrote:
> Real Jeeps donīt have no stinkin' air conditioning.
> Ha, ha. ;-) Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist!
>
> Seriously though, if you are in a hot area you may be close to the US/
> Mexico border. Just take a trip south and get it.



There's a reason it's illegal. And it's a *good* reason. There are
alternatives that are less destructive.

Come on. Be good to the Earth. It's the only one.


:-)
Craig C.


Craig Christian 06-01-2007 04:04 PM

Re: I need R-12
 
nrs wrote:
> Real Jeeps donīt have no stinkin' air conditioning.
> Ha, ha. ;-) Ok, sorry, I just couldn't resist!
>
> Seriously though, if you are in a hot area you may be close to the US/
> Mexico border. Just take a trip south and get it.



There's a reason it's illegal. And it's a *good* reason. There are
alternatives that are less destructive.

Come on. Be good to the Earth. It's the only one.


:-)
Craig C.



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