Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
By "Around here" I assume you mean the 3000 mile wide US populated with
260,000,000 people ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lisa Horton" <Lisa@lisahorton.net> wrote in message
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: At least around here, the large SUV is THE vehicle of choice for the bad
: drivers. Unfortunate for those who are not bad drivers but do have
: SUV's.
:
: Lisa
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: >
: > But these points are totally irrelevant as they apply to all vehicles !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Lisa Horton" <Lisa@lisahorton.net> wrote in message
: > news:3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net...
: > The people who take 2 spaces
: > : in a crowded parking lot because they can't operate their vehicle well
: > : enough to fit in 1 space. The not too good driver, normally (and
: > : wisely) timid who suddenly becomes super confident. Oh, I could go on
: > : an on.
: > :
: > : Lisa
260,000,000 people ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lisa Horton" <Lisa@lisahorton.net> wrote in message
news:3F92E639.DEFF1E4@lisahorton.net...
: At least around here, the large SUV is THE vehicle of choice for the bad
: drivers. Unfortunate for those who are not bad drivers but do have
: SUV's.
:
: Lisa
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: >
: > But these points are totally irrelevant as they apply to all vehicles !
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Lisa Horton" <Lisa@lisahorton.net> wrote in message
: > news:3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net...
: > The people who take 2 spaces
: > : in a crowded parking lot because they can't operate their vehicle well
: > : enough to fit in 1 space. The not too good driver, normally (and
: > : wisely) timid who suddenly becomes super confident. Oh, I could go on
: > : an on.
: > :
: > : Lisa
#872
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
works for us, and our roadways are a hell of a lot more crowded than yours..
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcbef68f7d8263989e30@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
Anyone ever thing of making safer roads??? Do
: you really think that two cars each going 60mph passing 2 feet from each
: other with no barrier to separate them is really the safest road design
: available today?
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Dave Milne, Scotland
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"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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: In article <3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
Anyone ever thing of making safer roads??? Do
: you really think that two cars each going 60mph passing 2 feet from each
: other with no barrier to separate them is really the safest road design
: available today?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
works for us, and our roadways are a hell of a lot more crowded than yours..
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcbef68f7d8263989e30@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
Anyone ever thing of making safer roads??? Do
: you really think that two cars each going 60mph passing 2 feet from each
: other with no barrier to separate them is really the safest road design
: available today?
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Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcbef68f7d8263989e30@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
Anyone ever thing of making safer roads??? Do
: you really think that two cars each going 60mph passing 2 feet from each
: other with no barrier to separate them is really the safest road design
: available today?
: --
: ____________________
: Remove "X" from email address to reply.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
works for us, and our roadways are a hell of a lot more crowded than yours..
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcbef68f7d8263989e30@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
Anyone ever thing of making safer roads??? Do
: you really think that two cars each going 60mph passing 2 feet from each
: other with no barrier to separate them is really the safest road design
: available today?
: --
: ____________________
: Remove "X" from email address to reply.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Chris Phillipo" <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:MPG.19fcbef68f7d8263989e30@news.eastlink.ca.. .
: In article <3F92DF96.423518D7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
Anyone ever thing of making safer roads??? Do
: you really think that two cars each going 60mph passing 2 feet from each
: other with no barrier to separate them is really the safest road design
: available today?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <89j4pvolp52f4ssf3v8or7mo9v361pjnr7@4ax.com>,
whineryy@yifan.net says...
> Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >In article <71v1pvcr5r3qhuv1ct7hqlsrcc06gpr8ue@4ax.com>,
> >whineryy@yifan.net says...
> >> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uh, nope. I don't expect to wreck but I bought a very safe vehicle
> >> >just in case.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
> >>
> >> Because the statistics indicate that a similarly weight in a car would be
> >> safer than what you bought. If you bought something that is heavier than
> >> the heaviest car available, then the problem is obviously CAFE reducing the
> >> availability of large cars.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
> >>
> >Oh do they? Have you read said statics yet Marc?
>
> Yes.
>
> Please post the specific statistics you are referring to so that we all may
> read them. So far, all of them posted indicate that SUVs are less safe.
> You seem to disagree, so I'd like to see what statistics you have to
> support your opinion.
>
> Marc
> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
Dear Marc, I see you have not read the study to which this thread is
devoted too. Here is crow, please try not to choke on it:
Driver Fatalities per Billion Vehicle Miles
Very small 4-door cars 11.56
Small 4-door cars 7.85
Mid-size 4-door cars 5.26
Large 4-door cars 3.30
Compact pickup trucks 6.82
Large (100-series) pickup trucks 4.07
Small 4-door SUVs 5.68
Mid-size 4-door SUVs 6.73
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whineryy@yifan.net says...
> Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >In article <71v1pvcr5r3qhuv1ct7hqlsrcc06gpr8ue@4ax.com>,
> >whineryy@yifan.net says...
> >> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uh, nope. I don't expect to wreck but I bought a very safe vehicle
> >> >just in case.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
> >>
> >> Because the statistics indicate that a similarly weight in a car would be
> >> safer than what you bought. If you bought something that is heavier than
> >> the heaviest car available, then the problem is obviously CAFE reducing the
> >> availability of large cars.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
> >>
> >Oh do they? Have you read said statics yet Marc?
>
> Yes.
>
> Please post the specific statistics you are referring to so that we all may
> read them. So far, all of them posted indicate that SUVs are less safe.
> You seem to disagree, so I'd like to see what statistics you have to
> support your opinion.
>
> Marc
> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
Dear Marc, I see you have not read the study to which this thread is
devoted too. Here is crow, please try not to choke on it:
Driver Fatalities per Billion Vehicle Miles
Very small 4-door cars 11.56
Small 4-door cars 7.85
Mid-size 4-door cars 5.26
Large 4-door cars 3.30
Compact pickup trucks 6.82
Large (100-series) pickup trucks 4.07
Small 4-door SUVs 5.68
Mid-size 4-door SUVs 6.73
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <89j4pvolp52f4ssf3v8or7mo9v361pjnr7@4ax.com>,
whineryy@yifan.net says...
> Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >In article <71v1pvcr5r3qhuv1ct7hqlsrcc06gpr8ue@4ax.com>,
> >whineryy@yifan.net says...
> >> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uh, nope. I don't expect to wreck but I bought a very safe vehicle
> >> >just in case.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
> >>
> >> Because the statistics indicate that a similarly weight in a car would be
> >> safer than what you bought. If you bought something that is heavier than
> >> the heaviest car available, then the problem is obviously CAFE reducing the
> >> availability of large cars.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
> >>
> >Oh do they? Have you read said statics yet Marc?
>
> Yes.
>
> Please post the specific statistics you are referring to so that we all may
> read them. So far, all of them posted indicate that SUVs are less safe.
> You seem to disagree, so I'd like to see what statistics you have to
> support your opinion.
>
> Marc
> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
Dear Marc, I see you have not read the study to which this thread is
devoted too. Here is crow, please try not to choke on it:
Driver Fatalities per Billion Vehicle Miles
Very small 4-door cars 11.56
Small 4-door cars 7.85
Mid-size 4-door cars 5.26
Large 4-door cars 3.30
Compact pickup trucks 6.82
Large (100-series) pickup trucks 4.07
Small 4-door SUVs 5.68
Mid-size 4-door SUVs 6.73
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whineryy@yifan.net says...
> Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >In article <71v1pvcr5r3qhuv1ct7hqlsrcc06gpr8ue@4ax.com>,
> >whineryy@yifan.net says...
> >> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uh, nope. I don't expect to wreck but I bought a very safe vehicle
> >> >just in case.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
> >>
> >> Because the statistics indicate that a similarly weight in a car would be
> >> safer than what you bought. If you bought something that is heavier than
> >> the heaviest car available, then the problem is obviously CAFE reducing the
> >> availability of large cars.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
> >>
> >Oh do they? Have you read said statics yet Marc?
>
> Yes.
>
> Please post the specific statistics you are referring to so that we all may
> read them. So far, all of them posted indicate that SUVs are less safe.
> You seem to disagree, so I'd like to see what statistics you have to
> support your opinion.
>
> Marc
> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
Dear Marc, I see you have not read the study to which this thread is
devoted too. Here is crow, please try not to choke on it:
Driver Fatalities per Billion Vehicle Miles
Very small 4-door cars 11.56
Small 4-door cars 7.85
Mid-size 4-door cars 5.26
Large 4-door cars 3.30
Compact pickup trucks 6.82
Large (100-series) pickup trucks 4.07
Small 4-door SUVs 5.68
Mid-size 4-door SUVs 6.73
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <89j4pvolp52f4ssf3v8or7mo9v361pjnr7@4ax.com>,
whineryy@yifan.net says...
> Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >In article <71v1pvcr5r3qhuv1ct7hqlsrcc06gpr8ue@4ax.com>,
> >whineryy@yifan.net says...
> >> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uh, nope. I don't expect to wreck but I bought a very safe vehicle
> >> >just in case.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
> >>
> >> Because the statistics indicate that a similarly weight in a car would be
> >> safer than what you bought. If you bought something that is heavier than
> >> the heaviest car available, then the problem is obviously CAFE reducing the
> >> availability of large cars.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
> >>
> >Oh do they? Have you read said statics yet Marc?
>
> Yes.
>
> Please post the specific statistics you are referring to so that we all may
> read them. So far, all of them posted indicate that SUVs are less safe.
> You seem to disagree, so I'd like to see what statistics you have to
> support your opinion.
>
> Marc
> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
Dear Marc, I see you have not read the study to which this thread is
devoted too. Here is crow, please try not to choke on it:
Driver Fatalities per Billion Vehicle Miles
Very small 4-door cars 11.56
Small 4-door cars 7.85
Mid-size 4-door cars 5.26
Large 4-door cars 3.30
Compact pickup trucks 6.82
Large (100-series) pickup trucks 4.07
Small 4-door SUVs 5.68
Mid-size 4-door SUVs 6.73
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whineryy@yifan.net says...
> Chris Phillipo <Xcphillipo@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >In article <71v1pvcr5r3qhuv1ct7hqlsrcc06gpr8ue@4ax.com>,
> >whineryy@yifan.net says...
> >> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Uh, nope. I don't expect to wreck but I bought a very safe vehicle
> >> >just in case.
> >> >
> >> >Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
> >>
> >> Because the statistics indicate that a similarly weight in a car would be
> >> safer than what you bought. If you bought something that is heavier than
> >> the heaviest car available, then the problem is obviously CAFE reducing the
> >> availability of large cars.
> >>
> >> Marc
> >> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
> >>
> >Oh do they? Have you read said statics yet Marc?
>
> Yes.
>
> Please post the specific statistics you are referring to so that we all may
> read them. So far, all of them posted indicate that SUVs are less safe.
> You seem to disagree, so I'd like to see what statistics you have to
> support your opinion.
>
> Marc
> For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
Dear Marc, I see you have not read the study to which this thread is
devoted too. Here is crow, please try not to choke on it:
Driver Fatalities per Billion Vehicle Miles
Very small 4-door cars 11.56
Small 4-door cars 7.85
Mid-size 4-door cars 5.26
Large 4-door cars 3.30
Compact pickup trucks 6.82
Large (100-series) pickup trucks 4.07
Small 4-door SUVs 5.68
Mid-size 4-door SUVs 6.73
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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> Then we should move everyone currently in an SUV into a Metro because they
> crash at an exorbitantly high rate and in the smaller vehicle will do less
> damage to others.
>
> Since many of the pro-SUV nuts claim that everyone that doesn't like SUVs
> is jealous because they are too expensive and exclusive for the peons, I'd
What pro SUV nuts? I only see one group of nuts cross posting new
threads on a weekly basis and you are their poster boy.
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> Then we should move everyone currently in an SUV into a Metro because they
> crash at an exorbitantly high rate and in the smaller vehicle will do less
> damage to others.
>
> Since many of the pro-SUV nuts claim that everyone that doesn't like SUVs
> is jealous because they are too expensive and exclusive for the peons, I'd
What pro SUV nuts? I only see one group of nuts cross posting new
threads on a weekly basis and you are their poster boy.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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> Then we should move everyone currently in an SUV into a Metro because they
> crash at an exorbitantly high rate and in the smaller vehicle will do less
> damage to others.
>
> Since many of the pro-SUV nuts claim that everyone that doesn't like SUVs
> is jealous because they are too expensive and exclusive for the peons, I'd
What pro SUV nuts? I only see one group of nuts cross posting new
threads on a weekly basis and you are their poster boy.
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> Then we should move everyone currently in an SUV into a Metro because they
> crash at an exorbitantly high rate and in the smaller vehicle will do less
> damage to others.
>
> Since many of the pro-SUV nuts claim that everyone that doesn't like SUVs
> is jealous because they are too expensive and exclusive for the peons, I'd
What pro SUV nuts? I only see one group of nuts cross posting new
threads on a weekly basis and you are their poster boy.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
>
> Then we should move everyone currently in an SUV into a Metro because they
> crash at an exorbitantly high rate and in the smaller vehicle will do less
> damage to others.
>
> Since many of the pro-SUV nuts claim that everyone that doesn't like SUVs
> is jealous because they are too expensive and exclusive for the peons, I'd
What pro SUV nuts? I only see one group of nuts cross posting new
threads on a weekly basis and you are their poster boy.
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> Then we should move everyone currently in an SUV into a Metro because they
> crash at an exorbitantly high rate and in the smaller vehicle will do less
> damage to others.
>
> Since many of the pro-SUV nuts claim that everyone that doesn't like SUVs
> is jealous because they are too expensive and exclusive for the peons, I'd
What pro SUV nuts? I only see one group of nuts cross posting new
threads on a weekly basis and you are their poster boy.
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