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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <qhhvsv401vumnf643lop4c5rgjsno9v655@4ax.com>,
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:09:39 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>Besides, if the gov't pays for health care instead of the employer, that's
>>reducing the costs to the employer.
>
>I guess taxes don't count as a cost.
>
When Europe pays less for health care per capita, that would reduce employer
expenses.
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:09:39 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>Besides, if the gov't pays for health care instead of the employer, that's
>>reducing the costs to the employer.
>
>I guess taxes don't count as a cost.
>
When Europe pays less for health care per capita, that would reduce employer
expenses.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <qhhvsv401vumnf643lop4c5rgjsno9v655@4ax.com>,
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:09:39 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>Besides, if the gov't pays for health care instead of the employer, that's
>>reducing the costs to the employer.
>
>I guess taxes don't count as a cost.
>
When Europe pays less for health care per capita, that would reduce employer
expenses.
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:09:39 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>Besides, if the gov't pays for health care instead of the employer, that's
>>reducing the costs to the employer.
>
>I guess taxes don't count as a cost.
>
When Europe pays less for health care per capita, that would reduce employer
expenses.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <qhhvsv401vumnf643lop4c5rgjsno9v655@4ax.com>,
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:09:39 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>Besides, if the gov't pays for health care instead of the employer, that's
>>reducing the costs to the employer.
>
>I guess taxes don't count as a cost.
>
When Europe pays less for health care per capita, that would reduce employer
expenses.
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:09:39 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>Besides, if the gov't pays for health care instead of the employer, that's
>>reducing the costs to the employer.
>
>I guess taxes don't count as a cost.
>
When Europe pays less for health care per capita, that would reduce employer
expenses.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <8shvsvk8ps6p0pau7khu159ridpfhtp5pi@4ax.com>,
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:20:24 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <6atssv4pjatpjf2bmiqc1jv17o0dnte89l@4ax.com>,
>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
>>>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>>>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>>>>health
>>>>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>>>>insurance
>>>>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and
>>Japan,
>>>>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover
>>everybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>>>>canadian health care problems
>>>>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>>>>friends promise.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>Try this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...tics/HealthCar
e/
>>Co
>>>>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
>>>
>>>Consumer Reports???
>>>You've GOT to be kidding.
>>>
>>Why is it all the right-wing Taliban here would believe anything an HMO or
>>drug company tells them but reject the main voice for the consumer?
>
>Lloyd, you must be on drugs. The illegal kind.
>CR is "the main voice for the consumer"??
Yes.
>Where did you get that from??
Common sense, the fact that consumer columns and consumer shows always cite
them...
I guess you buy into "whatever a business says, shut up and take it"?
>No wonder you're the laughing stock you are.
>Anytime you want to step out of that ivory tower you live in and join
>the real world, you're welcome. Be prepared for a shock, though.
>
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:20:24 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <6atssv4pjatpjf2bmiqc1jv17o0dnte89l@4ax.com>,
>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
>>>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>>>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>>>>health
>>>>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>>>>insurance
>>>>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and
>>Japan,
>>>>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover
>>everybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>>>>canadian health care problems
>>>>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>>>>friends promise.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>Try this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...tics/HealthCar
e/
>>Co
>>>>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
>>>
>>>Consumer Reports???
>>>You've GOT to be kidding.
>>>
>>Why is it all the right-wing Taliban here would believe anything an HMO or
>>drug company tells them but reject the main voice for the consumer?
>
>Lloyd, you must be on drugs. The illegal kind.
>CR is "the main voice for the consumer"??
Yes.
>Where did you get that from??
Common sense, the fact that consumer columns and consumer shows always cite
them...
I guess you buy into "whatever a business says, shut up and take it"?
>No wonder you're the laughing stock you are.
>Anytime you want to step out of that ivory tower you live in and join
>the real world, you're welcome. Be prepared for a shock, though.
>
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <8shvsvk8ps6p0pau7khu159ridpfhtp5pi@4ax.com>,
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:20:24 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <6atssv4pjatpjf2bmiqc1jv17o0dnte89l@4ax.com>,
>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
>>>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>>>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>>>>health
>>>>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>>>>insurance
>>>>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and
>>Japan,
>>>>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover
>>everybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>>>>canadian health care problems
>>>>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>>>>friends promise.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>Try this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...tics/HealthCar
e/
>>Co
>>>>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
>>>
>>>Consumer Reports???
>>>You've GOT to be kidding.
>>>
>>Why is it all the right-wing Taliban here would believe anything an HMO or
>>drug company tells them but reject the main voice for the consumer?
>
>Lloyd, you must be on drugs. The illegal kind.
>CR is "the main voice for the consumer"??
Yes.
>Where did you get that from??
Common sense, the fact that consumer columns and consumer shows always cite
them...
I guess you buy into "whatever a business says, shut up and take it"?
>No wonder you're the laughing stock you are.
>Anytime you want to step out of that ivory tower you live in and join
>the real world, you're welcome. Be prepared for a shock, though.
>
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:20:24 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <6atssv4pjatpjf2bmiqc1jv17o0dnte89l@4ax.com>,
>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
>>>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>>>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>>>>health
>>>>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>>>>insurance
>>>>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and
>>Japan,
>>>>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover
>>everybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>>>>canadian health care problems
>>>>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>>>>friends promise.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>Try this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...tics/HealthCar
e/
>>Co
>>>>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
>>>
>>>Consumer Reports???
>>>You've GOT to be kidding.
>>>
>>Why is it all the right-wing Taliban here would believe anything an HMO or
>>drug company tells them but reject the main voice for the consumer?
>
>Lloyd, you must be on drugs. The illegal kind.
>CR is "the main voice for the consumer"??
Yes.
>Where did you get that from??
Common sense, the fact that consumer columns and consumer shows always cite
them...
I guess you buy into "whatever a business says, shut up and take it"?
>No wonder you're the laughing stock you are.
>Anytime you want to step out of that ivory tower you live in and join
>the real world, you're welcome. Be prepared for a shock, though.
>
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <8shvsvk8ps6p0pau7khu159ridpfhtp5pi@4ax.com>,
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:20:24 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <6atssv4pjatpjf2bmiqc1jv17o0dnte89l@4ax.com>,
>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
>>>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>>>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>>>>health
>>>>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>>>>insurance
>>>>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and
>>Japan,
>>>>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover
>>everybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>>>>canadian health care problems
>>>>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>>>>friends promise.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>Try this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...tics/HealthCar
e/
>>Co
>>>>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
>>>
>>>Consumer Reports???
>>>You've GOT to be kidding.
>>>
>>Why is it all the right-wing Taliban here would believe anything an HMO or
>>drug company tells them but reject the main voice for the consumer?
>
>Lloyd, you must be on drugs. The illegal kind.
>CR is "the main voice for the consumer"??
Yes.
>Where did you get that from??
Common sense, the fact that consumer columns and consumer shows always cite
them...
I guess you buy into "whatever a business says, shut up and take it"?
>No wonder you're the laughing stock you are.
>Anytime you want to step out of that ivory tower you live in and join
>the real world, you're welcome. Be prepared for a shock, though.
>
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:20:24 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <6atssv4pjatpjf2bmiqc1jv17o0dnte89l@4ax.com>,
>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 03 Dec 03 10:54:53 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <2c7qsvgrtldnv0d50g0u57c2j0cadcc7if@4ax.com>,
>>>> Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 02 Dec 03 15:37:02 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <Us5zb.282500$275.1000782@attbi_s53>,
>>>>>> tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) wrote:
>>>>>>>In article <bqinb6$him$8@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it'd be terrible if everybody were covered and we spent less on
>>>>>>health
>>>>>>>> care, as Europe, Canada, and Japan do, wouldn't it? Terrible for
>>>>insurance
>>>>>>>> companies, drug companies, HMOs, etc, that is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How would we spend "less on health care" ? Instead of paying for health
>>>>>>>insurance we would pay *AT LEAST* that much in additional taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why is it, then, that every western European nation, plus Canada and
>>Japan,
>>>>>>spend less per capita on health care than the US yet still cover
>>everybody?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lloyd, you might want to do a Google search on the keywords:
>>>>>canadian health care problems
>>>>>This would let you see reality instead of the utopia your liberal
>>>>>friends promise.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Oh great, he wants me to absorb his right-wing propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>Try this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.e...tics/HealthCar
e/
>>Co
>>>>nsumerReports-Sep92.html.gz#Does%20Canada%20Have%20The%20Answer?
>>>
>>>Consumer Reports???
>>>You've GOT to be kidding.
>>>
>>Why is it all the right-wing Taliban here would believe anything an HMO or
>>drug company tells them but reject the main voice for the consumer?
>
>Lloyd, you must be on drugs. The illegal kind.
>CR is "the main voice for the consumer"??
Yes.
>Where did you get that from??
Common sense, the fact that consumer columns and consumer shows always cite
them...
I guess you buy into "whatever a business says, shut up and take it"?
>No wonder you're the laughing stock you are.
>Anytime you want to step out of that ivory tower you live in and join
>the real world, you're welcome. Be prepared for a shock, though.
>
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study aboutsafetycanbemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <3FCFCC4E.748D731D@kinez.net>,
Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> In article <3FCE7849.53867CA3@kinez.net>,
>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> >> It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to
>> pay
>> >> taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft...
>> >
>> >You're thinking of a pure democracy without any Consitutional
>> >protections, wherein if 50.0000000001% of the people vote to confiscate
>> >your property, then it's legal for them to do so. Society, under a
>> >constituional republic, can only tax to the degree that their
>> >constitution allows them to.
>>
>> OK, show me anywhere the US constitution caps taxes.
>>
>> I'm waiting....
>
>Who said anything about capping taxes - how about the purposes to which
they're
>put - but you knew that.
"Provide for the general welfare and the common defence" -- now I'd argue
giving billions of dollars to companies that Cheney used to work for don't
fall into either of these, but having a healthy populace sure would.
>
>Bill Putney
>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
with
>"x")
>
>
>
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Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> In article <3FCE7849.53867CA3@kinez.net>,
>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> >> It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to
>> pay
>> >> taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft...
>> >
>> >You're thinking of a pure democracy without any Consitutional
>> >protections, wherein if 50.0000000001% of the people vote to confiscate
>> >your property, then it's legal for them to do so. Society, under a
>> >constituional republic, can only tax to the degree that their
>> >constitution allows them to.
>>
>> OK, show me anywhere the US constitution caps taxes.
>>
>> I'm waiting....
>
>Who said anything about capping taxes - how about the purposes to which
they're
>put - but you knew that.
"Provide for the general welfare and the common defence" -- now I'd argue
giving billions of dollars to companies that Cheney used to work for don't
fall into either of these, but having a healthy populace sure would.
>
>Bill Putney
>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
with
>"x")
>
>
>
>
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study aboutsafetycanbemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <3FCFCC4E.748D731D@kinez.net>,
Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> In article <3FCE7849.53867CA3@kinez.net>,
>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> >> It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to
>> pay
>> >> taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft...
>> >
>> >You're thinking of a pure democracy without any Consitutional
>> >protections, wherein if 50.0000000001% of the people vote to confiscate
>> >your property, then it's legal for them to do so. Society, under a
>> >constituional republic, can only tax to the degree that their
>> >constitution allows them to.
>>
>> OK, show me anywhere the US constitution caps taxes.
>>
>> I'm waiting....
>
>Who said anything about capping taxes - how about the purposes to which
they're
>put - but you knew that.
"Provide for the general welfare and the common defence" -- now I'd argue
giving billions of dollars to companies that Cheney used to work for don't
fall into either of these, but having a healthy populace sure would.
>
>Bill Putney
>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
with
>"x")
>
>
>
>
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Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>
>
>Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> In article <3FCE7849.53867CA3@kinez.net>,
>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> >> It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to
>> pay
>> >> taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft...
>> >
>> >You're thinking of a pure democracy without any Consitutional
>> >protections, wherein if 50.0000000001% of the people vote to confiscate
>> >your property, then it's legal for them to do so. Society, under a
>> >constituional republic, can only tax to the degree that their
>> >constitution allows them to.
>>
>> OK, show me anywhere the US constitution caps taxes.
>>
>> I'm waiting....
>
>Who said anything about capping taxes - how about the purposes to which
they're
>put - but you knew that.
"Provide for the general welfare and the common defence" -- now I'd argue
giving billions of dollars to companies that Cheney used to work for don't
fall into either of these, but having a healthy populace sure would.
>
>Bill Putney
>(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
with
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study aboutsafetycanbemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <3FCFCC4E.748D731D@kinez.net>,
Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
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>Lloyd Parker wrote:
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>> In article <3FCE7849.53867CA3@kinez.net>,
>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> >> It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to
>> pay
>> >> taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft...
>> >
>> >You're thinking of a pure democracy without any Consitutional
>> >protections, wherein if 50.0000000001% of the people vote to confiscate
>> >your property, then it's legal for them to do so. Society, under a
>> >constituional republic, can only tax to the degree that their
>> >constitution allows them to.
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>> OK, show me anywhere the US constitution caps taxes.
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>> I'm waiting....
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>Who said anything about capping taxes - how about the purposes to which
they're
>put - but you knew that.
"Provide for the general welfare and the common defence" -- now I'd argue
giving billions of dollars to companies that Cheney used to work for don't
fall into either of these, but having a healthy populace sure would.
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Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
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>Lloyd Parker wrote:
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>> In article <3FCE7849.53867CA3@kinez.net>,
>> Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote:
>> >Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> >> It's called living in a society. Society has the right to compel you to
>> pay
>> >> taxes, and it's the height of idiocy to call it stealing or theft...
>> >
>> >You're thinking of a pure democracy without any Consitutional
>> >protections, wherein if 50.0000000001% of the people vote to confiscate
>> >your property, then it's legal for them to do so. Society, under a
>> >constituional republic, can only tax to the degree that their
>> >constitution allows them to.
>>
>> OK, show me anywhere the US constitution caps taxes.
>>
>> I'm waiting....
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>Who said anything about capping taxes - how about the purposes to which
they're
>put - but you knew that.
"Provide for the general welfare and the common defence" -- now I'd argue
giving billions of dollars to companies that Cheney used to work for don't
fall into either of these, but having a healthy populace sure would.
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safetycanbe misinterpreted by SUV drivers)
In article <fnjvsvsmu5n84q4k1m457amfb37muifqib@4ax.com>,
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:25:54 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
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>>Canada's a democracy; if their health care system is so bad, why haven't the
>>people gotten rid of it? England's is even more socialized, but even the
>>conservative Thatcher realized it was so popular she didn't dare touch it.
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>It's a truth that one of democracy's worse points is that people, when
>they discover that they can vote themselves something for 'free', will
>do so.
>It's human nature.
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So you'd prefer, what, a monarchy? A theocracy to impose your religious
beliefs on others?
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Dec 03 10:25:54 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
>wrote:
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>>Canada's a democracy; if their health care system is so bad, why haven't the
>>people gotten rid of it? England's is even more socialized, but even the
>>conservative Thatcher realized it was so popular she didn't dare touch it.
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>It's a truth that one of democracy's worse points is that people, when
>they discover that they can vote themselves something for 'free', will
>do so.
>It's human nature.
>
So you'd prefer, what, a monarchy? A theocracy to impose your religious
beliefs on others?