Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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In article <bms72e$6me$16@puck.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu
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> In article <3he1pv882ierjbgus5vpdlhk9djncs6p66@4ax.com>,
> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:54:22 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> So because I drive a very safe SUV, that outhandles and outperforms
> >>> many passenger cars, and you can't seem to grasp that simple
> >concept,
> >>> that makes me an ***?
> >>>
> >>> I guess I'll have some of what you've been smoking.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Many shitty passenger cars, maybe. Good passenger cars, I doubt it.
> >>Either that, or it's one of those horrible car-based SUVs that are
> >>supposed to look like SUVs, handle like cars, and don't do either
> >well.
> >
> >Nope. Not car-based. Full ladder frame in fact. Low range, etc.
> >
>
> And you think it outperforms may cars? Hey, want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
>
So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
truck any of us is driving.
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> In article <3he1pv882ierjbgus5vpdlhk9djncs6p66@4ax.com>,
> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:54:22 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> So because I drive a very safe SUV, that outhandles and outperforms
> >>> many passenger cars, and you can't seem to grasp that simple
> >concept,
> >>> that makes me an ***?
> >>>
> >>> I guess I'll have some of what you've been smoking.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Many shitty passenger cars, maybe. Good passenger cars, I doubt it.
> >>Either that, or it's one of those horrible car-based SUVs that are
> >>supposed to look like SUVs, handle like cars, and don't do either
> >well.
> >
> >Nope. Not car-based. Full ladder frame in fact. Low range, etc.
> >
>
> And you think it outperforms may cars? Hey, want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
>
So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
truck any of us is driving.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <bms72e$6me$16@puck.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu
says...
> In article <3he1pv882ierjbgus5vpdlhk9djncs6p66@4ax.com>,
> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:54:22 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> So because I drive a very safe SUV, that outhandles and outperforms
> >>> many passenger cars, and you can't seem to grasp that simple
> >concept,
> >>> that makes me an ***?
> >>>
> >>> I guess I'll have some of what you've been smoking.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Many shitty passenger cars, maybe. Good passenger cars, I doubt it.
> >>Either that, or it's one of those horrible car-based SUVs that are
> >>supposed to look like SUVs, handle like cars, and don't do either
> >well.
> >
> >Nope. Not car-based. Full ladder frame in fact. Low range, etc.
> >
>
> And you think it outperforms may cars? Hey, want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
>
So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
truck any of us is driving.
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> In article <3he1pv882ierjbgus5vpdlhk9djncs6p66@4ax.com>,
> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:54:22 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> So because I drive a very safe SUV, that outhandles and outperforms
> >>> many passenger cars, and you can't seem to grasp that simple
> >concept,
> >>> that makes me an ***?
> >>>
> >>> I guess I'll have some of what you've been smoking.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Many shitty passenger cars, maybe. Good passenger cars, I doubt it.
> >>Either that, or it's one of those horrible car-based SUVs that are
> >>supposed to look like SUVs, handle like cars, and don't do either
> >well.
> >
> >Nope. Not car-based. Full ladder frame in fact. Low range, etc.
> >
>
> And you think it outperforms may cars? Hey, want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
>
So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
truck any of us is driving.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <bms72e$6me$16@puck.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu
says...
> In article <3he1pv882ierjbgus5vpdlhk9djncs6p66@4ax.com>,
> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:54:22 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> So because I drive a very safe SUV, that outhandles and outperforms
> >>> many passenger cars, and you can't seem to grasp that simple
> >concept,
> >>> that makes me an ***?
> >>>
> >>> I guess I'll have some of what you've been smoking.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Many shitty passenger cars, maybe. Good passenger cars, I doubt it.
> >>Either that, or it's one of those horrible car-based SUVs that are
> >>supposed to look like SUVs, handle like cars, and don't do either
> >well.
> >
> >Nope. Not car-based. Full ladder frame in fact. Low range, etc.
> >
>
> And you think it outperforms may cars? Hey, want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
>
So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
truck any of us is driving.
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> In article <3he1pv882ierjbgus5vpdlhk9djncs6p66@4ax.com>,
> P e t e F a g e r l i n <pete@petefagerlin.com> wrote:
> >On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:54:22 -0400, Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> So because I drive a very safe SUV, that outhandles and outperforms
> >>> many passenger cars, and you can't seem to grasp that simple
> >concept,
> >>> that makes me an ***?
> >>>
> >>> I guess I'll have some of what you've been smoking.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Many shitty passenger cars, maybe. Good passenger cars, I doubt it.
> >>Either that, or it's one of those horrible car-based SUVs that are
> >>supposed to look like SUVs, handle like cars, and don't do either
> >well.
> >
> >Nope. Not car-based. Full ladder frame in fact. Low range, etc.
> >
>
> And you think it outperforms may cars? Hey, want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?
>
So tells us oh great one, what car do you drive that can out climb, out
tow, has greater cargo capacity and can handle deeper snow than whatever
truck any of us is driving.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <3F917B37.154DE9A7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
says...
>
>
> P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:26:03 -0700, Lisa Horton <Lisa@lisahorton.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > >> Georgoudis) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >> >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >> >car.
> > >>
> > >> I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > >> bought a very safe SUV.
> > >>
> > >> Go figure.
> > >
> > >Introductions seem to be in order: Pete, this is logic, Logic, this is
> > >Pete. Do try to keep in touch at the next car purchase time.
> >
> > What makes you think my purchase was illogical Ms. Horton?
>
> Because you claim to care about the safety of your family, yet you did
> not buy the safest type of vehicle.
>
Yes, he should have bought the Hummer with armoured glass. I agree.
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>
> P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:26:03 -0700, Lisa Horton <Lisa@lisahorton.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > >> Georgoudis) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >> >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >> >car.
> > >>
> > >> I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > >> bought a very safe SUV.
> > >>
> > >> Go figure.
> > >
> > >Introductions seem to be in order: Pete, this is logic, Logic, this is
> > >Pete. Do try to keep in touch at the next car purchase time.
> >
> > What makes you think my purchase was illogical Ms. Horton?
>
> Because you claim to care about the safety of your family, yet you did
> not buy the safest type of vehicle.
>
Yes, he should have bought the Hummer with armoured glass. I agree.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <3F917B37.154DE9A7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
says...
>
>
> P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:26:03 -0700, Lisa Horton <Lisa@lisahorton.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > >> Georgoudis) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >> >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >> >car.
> > >>
> > >> I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > >> bought a very safe SUV.
> > >>
> > >> Go figure.
> > >
> > >Introductions seem to be in order: Pete, this is logic, Logic, this is
> > >Pete. Do try to keep in touch at the next car purchase time.
> >
> > What makes you think my purchase was illogical Ms. Horton?
>
> Because you claim to care about the safety of your family, yet you did
> not buy the safest type of vehicle.
>
Yes, he should have bought the Hummer with armoured glass. I agree.
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>
> P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:26:03 -0700, Lisa Horton <Lisa@lisahorton.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > >> Georgoudis) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >> >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >> >car.
> > >>
> > >> I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > >> bought a very safe SUV.
> > >>
> > >> Go figure.
> > >
> > >Introductions seem to be in order: Pete, this is logic, Logic, this is
> > >Pete. Do try to keep in touch at the next car purchase time.
> >
> > What makes you think my purchase was illogical Ms. Horton?
>
> Because you claim to care about the safety of your family, yet you did
> not buy the safest type of vehicle.
>
Yes, he should have bought the Hummer with armoured glass. I agree.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <3F917B37.154DE9A7@lisahorton.net>, Lisa@lisahorton.net
says...
>
>
> P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:26:03 -0700, Lisa Horton <Lisa@lisahorton.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > >> Georgoudis) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >> >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >> >car.
> > >>
> > >> I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > >> bought a very safe SUV.
> > >>
> > >> Go figure.
> > >
> > >Introductions seem to be in order: Pete, this is logic, Logic, this is
> > >Pete. Do try to keep in touch at the next car purchase time.
> >
> > What makes you think my purchase was illogical Ms. Horton?
>
> Because you claim to care about the safety of your family, yet you did
> not buy the safest type of vehicle.
>
Yes, he should have bought the Hummer with armoured glass. I agree.
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>
>
> P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:26:03 -0700, Lisa Horton <Lisa@lisahorton.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >P e t e F a g e r l i n wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 17 Oct 2003 08:52:47 -0700, dianelos@tecapro.com (Dianelos
> > >> Georgoudis) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >If you care about your personal safety then, clearly, the best
> > >> >strategy is not to use a SUV but to use a mid-size or large passenger
> > >> >car.
> > >>
> > >> I care not only about my safety, but the safety of my family, so I
> > >> bought a very safe SUV.
> > >>
> > >> Go figure.
> > >
> > >Introductions seem to be in order: Pete, this is logic, Logic, this is
> > >Pete. Do try to keep in touch at the next car purchase time.
> >
> > What makes you think my purchase was illogical Ms. Horton?
>
> Because you claim to care about the safety of your family, yet you did
> not buy the safest type of vehicle.
>
Yes, he should have bought the Hummer with armoured glass. I agree.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>>>>The same could be said of practically any motor vehicle, even a geo
>>>>metro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes but with the metro you would not have the extra weight which
>>>generates more momentum
>>
>>And with the large SUV, you will be unable to avoid crashes, as your boat
>>handles like a brick (or is that, "your brick handles like a boat"?).
>>
>
>
> And yet 20,000 pound 18 wheelers do it every day. Isn't that odd. Must
> be the extra wheels. Or maybe it's the amphetamines.
Most 18 wheelers weigh 20,000 lbs, empty...
Matt
>>>>The same could be said of practically any motor vehicle, even a geo
>>>>metro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes but with the metro you would not have the extra weight which
>>>generates more momentum
>>
>>And with the large SUV, you will be unable to avoid crashes, as your boat
>>handles like a brick (or is that, "your brick handles like a boat"?).
>>
>
>
> And yet 20,000 pound 18 wheelers do it every day. Isn't that odd. Must
> be the extra wheels. Or maybe it's the amphetamines.
Most 18 wheelers weigh 20,000 lbs, empty...
Matt
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>>>>The same could be said of practically any motor vehicle, even a geo
>>>>metro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes but with the metro you would not have the extra weight which
>>>generates more momentum
>>
>>And with the large SUV, you will be unable to avoid crashes, as your boat
>>handles like a brick (or is that, "your brick handles like a boat"?).
>>
>
>
> And yet 20,000 pound 18 wheelers do it every day. Isn't that odd. Must
> be the extra wheels. Or maybe it's the amphetamines.
Most 18 wheelers weigh 20,000 lbs, empty...
Matt
>>>>The same could be said of practically any motor vehicle, even a geo
>>>>metro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes but with the metro you would not have the extra weight which
>>>generates more momentum
>>
>>And with the large SUV, you will be unable to avoid crashes, as your boat
>>handles like a brick (or is that, "your brick handles like a boat"?).
>>
>
>
> And yet 20,000 pound 18 wheelers do it every day. Isn't that odd. Must
> be the extra wheels. Or maybe it's the amphetamines.
Most 18 wheelers weigh 20,000 lbs, empty...
Matt
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Chris Phillipo wrote:
>>>>The same could be said of practically any motor vehicle, even a geo
>>>>metro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes but with the metro you would not have the extra weight which
>>>generates more momentum
>>
>>And with the large SUV, you will be unable to avoid crashes, as your boat
>>handles like a brick (or is that, "your brick handles like a boat"?).
>>
>
>
> And yet 20,000 pound 18 wheelers do it every day. Isn't that odd. Must
> be the extra wheels. Or maybe it's the amphetamines.
Most 18 wheelers weigh 20,000 lbs, empty...
Matt
>>>>The same could be said of practically any motor vehicle, even a geo
>>>>metro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes but with the metro you would not have the extra weight which
>>>generates more momentum
>>
>>And with the large SUV, you will be unable to avoid crashes, as your boat
>>handles like a brick (or is that, "your brick handles like a boat"?).
>>
>
>
> And yet 20,000 pound 18 wheelers do it every day. Isn't that odd. Must
> be the extra wheels. Or maybe it's the amphetamines.
Most 18 wheelers weigh 20,000 lbs, empty...
Matt
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com says...
> > > Nawww, he's likely to be able to steer around it very nimbly. The SUV
> is
> > > more likely to hit another SUV head-on, as neither is nimble enough to
> avoid
> > > the encounter. -Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Don't drive much these days or pay attention to road tests, huh Davie?
> >
>
> What are you talking about? I've driven several SUVs (not by choice). My
Tell me Dave, out of those several (3?), which two rolled over and what
one crashed head on into another SUV? Oh and how did you survive such a
horrendous experience against all odds?
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spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com says...
> > > Nawww, he's likely to be able to steer around it very nimbly. The SUV
> is
> > > more likely to hit another SUV head-on, as neither is nimble enough to
> avoid
> > > the encounter. -Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Don't drive much these days or pay attention to road tests, huh Davie?
> >
>
> What are you talking about? I've driven several SUVs (not by choice). My
Tell me Dave, out of those several (3?), which two rolled over and what
one crashed head on into another SUV? Oh and how did you survive such a
horrendous experience against all odds?
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