Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:43:53 -0900, Marc <whineryy@yifan.net> wrote:
>
>>Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 06 Nov 03 13:56:41 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>>In article <rtriqvkhms3sfdqhscdi2qnno4u28o5iud@4ax.com>, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Explain how increased taxes improve the economy.
>>>>>
>>>>Explain how Clinton's tax on the wealthy hurt the economy.
>>>
>>>It's fairly obvious that, since increased taxes hurt an economy,
>>>Clinton's tax increase hurt the economy.
>>
>>You are basing your conclusion on an unproven premise. It was "fairly
>>obvious" that the earth was flat as well. That didn't make it true...
>>
>>Marc
>>For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
>However, the flat earth theory was based on a false premise, without
>observation.
What do you call using your eyes to see? I call it observation. I'd
suspect that the people that thought the world was flat based it on
observation.
>That tax increases hurt economies is an observed fact.
Then why is it so hotly debated?
Marc
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>On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:43:53 -0900, Marc <whineryy@yifan.net> wrote:
>
>>Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 06 Nov 03 13:56:41 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>>In article <rtriqvkhms3sfdqhscdi2qnno4u28o5iud@4ax.com>, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Explain how increased taxes improve the economy.
>>>>>
>>>>Explain how Clinton's tax on the wealthy hurt the economy.
>>>
>>>It's fairly obvious that, since increased taxes hurt an economy,
>>>Clinton's tax increase hurt the economy.
>>
>>You are basing your conclusion on an unproven premise. It was "fairly
>>obvious" that the earth was flat as well. That didn't make it true...
>>
>>Marc
>>For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
>However, the flat earth theory was based on a false premise, without
>observation.
What do you call using your eyes to see? I call it observation. I'd
suspect that the people that thought the world was flat based it on
observation.
>That tax increases hurt economies is an observed fact.
Then why is it so hotly debated?
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:43:53 -0900, Marc <whineryy@yifan.net> wrote:
>
>>Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 06 Nov 03 13:56:41 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>>In article <rtriqvkhms3sfdqhscdi2qnno4u28o5iud@4ax.com>, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Explain how increased taxes improve the economy.
>>>>>
>>>>Explain how Clinton's tax on the wealthy hurt the economy.
>>>
>>>It's fairly obvious that, since increased taxes hurt an economy,
>>>Clinton's tax increase hurt the economy.
>>
>>You are basing your conclusion on an unproven premise. It was "fairly
>>obvious" that the earth was flat as well. That didn't make it true...
>>
>>Marc
>>For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
>However, the flat earth theory was based on a false premise, without
>observation.
What do you call using your eyes to see? I call it observation. I'd
suspect that the people that thought the world was flat based it on
observation.
>That tax increases hurt economies is an observed fact.
Then why is it so hotly debated?
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:43:53 -0900, Marc <whineryy@yifan.net> wrote:
>
>>Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 06 Nov 03 13:56:41 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>>>>In article <rtriqvkhms3sfdqhscdi2qnno4u28o5iud@4ax.com>, Bill Funk <bfunk33@pipping.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Explain how increased taxes improve the economy.
>>>>>
>>>>Explain how Clinton's tax on the wealthy hurt the economy.
>>>
>>>It's fairly obvious that, since increased taxes hurt an economy,
>>>Clinton's tax increase hurt the economy.
>>
>>You are basing your conclusion on an unproven premise. It was "fairly
>>obvious" that the earth was flat as well. That didn't make it true...
>>
>>Marc
>>For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>
>However, the flat earth theory was based on a false premise, without
>observation.
What do you call using your eyes to see? I call it observation. I'd
suspect that the people that thought the world was flat based it on
observation.
>That tax increases hurt economies is an observed fact.
Then why is it so hotly debated?
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>> When weighted for shares owned, what is the average income of
>shareholders? That is, rather than asking every person in the US whether
>they own and stock and averaging their income if they do, look at every
>share of stock held and average the incomes of its owner. I suspect the
>number would be significantly higher than 40k. I suspect that most shares
>in the US are held by people making more than $1,000,000 per year (or by
>companies run by people that make more than $1,000,000 per year. <
>
>What is this, more Florida recount logic from the Left???!!!
>
>Fact is, the majority of American workers hold shares in 401ks, IRAs, and in
>savings.
And the majority of voting shares are controlled by the financial elite.
Marc
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>> When weighted for shares owned, what is the average income of
>shareholders? That is, rather than asking every person in the US whether
>they own and stock and averaging their income if they do, look at every
>share of stock held and average the incomes of its owner. I suspect the
>number would be significantly higher than 40k. I suspect that most shares
>in the US are held by people making more than $1,000,000 per year (or by
>companies run by people that make more than $1,000,000 per year. <
>
>What is this, more Florida recount logic from the Left???!!!
>
>Fact is, the majority of American workers hold shares in 401ks, IRAs, and in
>savings.
And the majority of voting shares are controlled by the financial elite.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>> When weighted for shares owned, what is the average income of
>shareholders? That is, rather than asking every person in the US whether
>they own and stock and averaging their income if they do, look at every
>share of stock held and average the incomes of its owner. I suspect the
>number would be significantly higher than 40k. I suspect that most shares
>in the US are held by people making more than $1,000,000 per year (or by
>companies run by people that make more than $1,000,000 per year. <
>
>What is this, more Florida recount logic from the Left???!!!
>
>Fact is, the majority of American workers hold shares in 401ks, IRAs, and in
>savings.
And the majority of voting shares are controlled by the financial elite.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>> When weighted for shares owned, what is the average income of
>shareholders? That is, rather than asking every person in the US whether
>they own and stock and averaging their income if they do, look at every
>share of stock held and average the incomes of its owner. I suspect the
>number would be significantly higher than 40k. I suspect that most shares
>in the US are held by people making more than $1,000,000 per year (or by
>companies run by people that make more than $1,000,000 per year. <
>
>What is this, more Florida recount logic from the Left???!!!
>
>Fact is, the majority of American workers hold shares in 401ks, IRAs, and in
>savings.
And the majority of voting shares are controlled by the financial elite.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>> When weighted for shares owned, what is the average income of
>shareholders? That is, rather than asking every person in the US whether
>they own and stock and averaging their income if they do, look at every
>share of stock held and average the incomes of its owner. I suspect the
>number would be significantly higher than 40k. I suspect that most shares
>in the US are held by people making more than $1,000,000 per year (or by
>companies run by people that make more than $1,000,000 per year. <
>
>What is this, more Florida recount logic from the Left???!!!
>
>Fact is, the majority of American workers hold shares in 401ks, IRAs, and in
>savings.
And the majority of voting shares are controlled by the financial elite.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>> When weighted for shares owned, what is the average income of
>shareholders? That is, rather than asking every person in the US whether
>they own and stock and averaging their income if they do, look at every
>share of stock held and average the incomes of its owner. I suspect the
>number would be significantly higher than 40k. I suspect that most shares
>in the US are held by people making more than $1,000,000 per year (or by
>companies run by people that make more than $1,000,000 per year. <
>
>What is this, more Florida recount logic from the Left???!!!
>
>Fact is, the majority of American workers hold shares in 401ks, IRAs, and in
>savings.
And the majority of voting shares are controlled by the financial elite.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can bemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
>In article <boojos$dmh$9@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
>Lloyd Parker <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote:
>>In article <8a5tqvsnv70r2vv63ljkja40g619efvpc2@4ax.com>,
>> DTJ <dtj@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:26:51 -0700, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
>>><gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I forgot that using my brain is against everything liberals stand
>>>>for.<
>>>>
>>>>That's right, you just stop thinking and let them make all the decisions for
>>>>you, meanwhile be sure and let them have 50% of your wages and shut up! They
>>>>know far better than you how it should be spent...
>>>
>>>50%? You have to be really poor to pay that small of a tax rate!
>>What an idiot. Effective tax rate on the middle class is around 25%,
>>including federal and state income, sales, gas, social security, and property.
>
>Maybe if you live in a state with no income or sales tax. The average
>Marylander, for instance, is paying 8% in income and 5% in sales in
>state taxes alone.
I live in a state that has no income or sales taxes and pays over $1000 per
year back to residents.
But then, I live in the least populous state.
Marc
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>In article <boojos$dmh$9@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
>Lloyd Parker <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote:
>>In article <8a5tqvsnv70r2vv63ljkja40g619efvpc2@4ax.com>,
>> DTJ <dtj@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:26:51 -0700, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
>>><gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I forgot that using my brain is against everything liberals stand
>>>>for.<
>>>>
>>>>That's right, you just stop thinking and let them make all the decisions for
>>>>you, meanwhile be sure and let them have 50% of your wages and shut up! They
>>>>know far better than you how it should be spent...
>>>
>>>50%? You have to be really poor to pay that small of a tax rate!
>>What an idiot. Effective tax rate on the middle class is around 25%,
>>including federal and state income, sales, gas, social security, and property.
>
>Maybe if you live in a state with no income or sales tax. The average
>Marylander, for instance, is paying 8% in income and 5% in sales in
>state taxes alone.
I live in a state that has no income or sales taxes and pays over $1000 per
year back to residents.
But then, I live in the least populous state.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can bemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
>In article <boojos$dmh$9@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
>Lloyd Parker <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote:
>>In article <8a5tqvsnv70r2vv63ljkja40g619efvpc2@4ax.com>,
>> DTJ <dtj@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:26:51 -0700, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
>>><gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I forgot that using my brain is against everything liberals stand
>>>>for.<
>>>>
>>>>That's right, you just stop thinking and let them make all the decisions for
>>>>you, meanwhile be sure and let them have 50% of your wages and shut up! They
>>>>know far better than you how it should be spent...
>>>
>>>50%? You have to be really poor to pay that small of a tax rate!
>>What an idiot. Effective tax rate on the middle class is around 25%,
>>including federal and state income, sales, gas, social security, and property.
>
>Maybe if you live in a state with no income or sales tax. The average
>Marylander, for instance, is paying 8% in income and 5% in sales in
>state taxes alone.
I live in a state that has no income or sales taxes and pays over $1000 per
year back to residents.
But then, I live in the least populous state.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>In article <boojos$dmh$9@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
>Lloyd Parker <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote:
>>In article <8a5tqvsnv70r2vv63ljkja40g619efvpc2@4ax.com>,
>> DTJ <dtj@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:26:51 -0700, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
>>><gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I forgot that using my brain is against everything liberals stand
>>>>for.<
>>>>
>>>>That's right, you just stop thinking and let them make all the decisions for
>>>>you, meanwhile be sure and let them have 50% of your wages and shut up! They
>>>>know far better than you how it should be spent...
>>>
>>>50%? You have to be really poor to pay that small of a tax rate!
>>What an idiot. Effective tax rate on the middle class is around 25%,
>>including federal and state income, sales, gas, social security, and property.
>
>Maybe if you live in a state with no income or sales tax. The average
>Marylander, for instance, is paying 8% in income and 5% in sales in
>state taxes alone.
I live in a state that has no income or sales taxes and pays over $1000 per
year back to residents.
But then, I live in the least populous state.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can bemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
>In article <boojos$dmh$9@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
>Lloyd Parker <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote:
>>In article <8a5tqvsnv70r2vv63ljkja40g619efvpc2@4ax.com>,
>> DTJ <dtj@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:26:51 -0700, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
>>><gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I forgot that using my brain is against everything liberals stand
>>>>for.<
>>>>
>>>>That's right, you just stop thinking and let them make all the decisions for
>>>>you, meanwhile be sure and let them have 50% of your wages and shut up! They
>>>>know far better than you how it should be spent...
>>>
>>>50%? You have to be really poor to pay that small of a tax rate!
>>What an idiot. Effective tax rate on the middle class is around 25%,
>>including federal and state income, sales, gas, social security, and property.
>
>Maybe if you live in a state with no income or sales tax. The average
>Marylander, for instance, is paying 8% in income and 5% in sales in
>state taxes alone.
I live in a state that has no income or sales taxes and pays over $1000 per
year back to residents.
But then, I live in the least populous state.
Marc
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>In article <boojos$dmh$9@puck.cc.emory.edu>,
>Lloyd Parker <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote:
>>In article <8a5tqvsnv70r2vv63ljkja40g619efvpc2@4ax.com>,
>> DTJ <dtj@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 20:26:51 -0700, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
>>><gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I forgot that using my brain is against everything liberals stand
>>>>for.<
>>>>
>>>>That's right, you just stop thinking and let them make all the decisions for
>>>>you, meanwhile be sure and let them have 50% of your wages and shut up! They
>>>>know far better than you how it should be spent...
>>>
>>>50%? You have to be really poor to pay that small of a tax rate!
>>What an idiot. Effective tax rate on the middle class is around 25%,
>>including federal and state income, sales, gas, social security, and property.
>
>Maybe if you live in a state with no income or sales tax. The average
>Marylander, for instance, is paying 8% in income and 5% in sales in
>state taxes alone.
I live in a state that has no income or sales taxes and pays over $1000 per
year back to residents.
But then, I live in the least populous state.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can bemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Steve Stone" <spfleck@zzcitlinkzz.net> wrote:
>What is a liberal these daze ?
>
A "liberal" is anyone that thinks that corporations should be held liable
for their illegal actions. A "liberal" is someone that thinks that what a
person does in their own home alone or with consenting adults is only the
business of those present.
Marc
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>What is a liberal these daze ?
>
A "liberal" is anyone that thinks that corporations should be held liable
for their illegal actions. A "liberal" is someone that thinks that what a
person does in their own home alone or with consenting adults is only the
business of those present.
Marc
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Re: Global Warming - a Liberal Scam?, (was Huge study about safety can bemisinterpreted by SUV drivers)
"Steve Stone" <spfleck@zzcitlinkzz.net> wrote:
>What is a liberal these daze ?
>
A "liberal" is anyone that thinks that corporations should be held liable
for their illegal actions. A "liberal" is someone that thinks that what a
person does in their own home alone or with consenting adults is only the
business of those present.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"
>What is a liberal these daze ?
>
A "liberal" is anyone that thinks that corporations should be held liable
for their illegal actions. A "liberal" is someone that thinks that what a
person does in their own home alone or with consenting adults is only the
business of those present.
Marc
For email, remove the first "y" of "whineryy"