Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <NDbqb.10704$9M3.5530@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
> "FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> >> You're still clutching onto the old "popular vote" complaint Lloyd.
We
> >> >didn't have a popular vote. There wasn't a popular election, so
there's
> >no
> >> >popular vote. Counting up the aggregate of individual state votes and
> >> >calling it a "popular vote" doesn't make it so. We've had this
argument
> >> >before and you always ignore this pertinent fact. >
> >> >
> >> >Well, first, Llyod prefers indictrination to facts. ;-) If we add up
the
> >> >poopular vote Gore is ALLEGED to have won by around 500,000. I say
> >alleged,
> >> >because the 2000 Presidential vote total was never verified.
> >>
> >> Each state certified its election returns.
> >>
> >>
> >> >Had we NOT had
> >> >an Elctoral College, as of course we do, that 500,000 represented
about
> >1/2
> >> >of 1 percent of the total vote, satistically insignificant and
therefore
> >it
> >> >would have necessitated a National recount. Given the corrupt Democrat
> >> >machines in the urban areas of the Country wher there political base
is,
> >> >it's doubtful those 500,000 votes would have survived.
> >>
> >> And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >>
> >
> >Not as many as Democratic. The counties Gore tried to Cherry-pick in
Florida
> >were Democratic strongholds. Do you think that was an accident?
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> >Nontheless, with the exception of Clinton's re-election in '96 the
> >Democrats
> >> >have lost every major campaign since '94 and are now out of power and
can
> >> >mount no effective opposition other than obstruction.
> >>
> >>
> >> Since there're been 2 "major campaigns" since 94, that makes both
parties
> >> batting .500.
> >>
> >> >Their recent hero,
> >> >Clinton, was a pragmatist and closet conservative, anything so long as
it
> >> >got him power. So, other than the biggest tax increase in history,
name
> >ONE
> >> >major liberal adgenda item he either championed or got signed into
law.
> >>
> >> Family leave, environmental protection, workplace safety, kept abortion
> >rights
> >> from being taken away, Brady Bill, assault weapon ban...
> >>
> >>
> >I can't fault FMLA, in itself its a good thing. Workplace safety
sometimes
> >goes to far the way the laws are written. Whether you like it or not
Lloyd
> >there is such a thing as over regulation. I think abortion is wrong, but
its
> >not for me or anyone else to legislate it, hence I don't think it should
be
> >an issue.
> >The Brady Bill and assault weapons ban are a joke, if you actually got
out
> >of that ivory tower you're holed up in you might realize it. If it were
up
> >to you I could think of three people off the top of my head who might be
> >dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
> >An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
> >A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
> >a Wal-Fart parking lot.
> >A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by
some
> >nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
> >
> >
> >
> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
A complete lie. Better ditch those lying left wing sites and read some facts
Lloyd. In your words, Prove it.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe58v$i0q$3@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <NDbqb.10704$9M3.5530@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
> "FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bob0k1$s2a$1@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <bo8tgh012ij@enews1.newsguy.com>,
> >> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> >> You're still clutching onto the old "popular vote" complaint Lloyd.
We
> >> >didn't have a popular vote. There wasn't a popular election, so
there's
> >no
> >> >popular vote. Counting up the aggregate of individual state votes and
> >> >calling it a "popular vote" doesn't make it so. We've had this
argument
> >> >before and you always ignore this pertinent fact. >
> >> >
> >> >Well, first, Llyod prefers indictrination to facts. ;-) If we add up
the
> >> >poopular vote Gore is ALLEGED to have won by around 500,000. I say
> >alleged,
> >> >because the 2000 Presidential vote total was never verified.
> >>
> >> Each state certified its election returns.
> >>
> >>
> >> >Had we NOT had
> >> >an Elctoral College, as of course we do, that 500,000 represented
about
> >1/2
> >> >of 1 percent of the total vote, satistically insignificant and
therefore
> >it
> >> >would have necessitated a National recount. Given the corrupt Democrat
> >> >machines in the urban areas of the Country wher there political base
is,
> >> >it's doubtful those 500,000 votes would have survived.
> >>
> >> And there're no corrupt Republican machines? Hello, Texas? Florida?
> >>
> >
> >Not as many as Democratic. The counties Gore tried to Cherry-pick in
Florida
> >were Democratic strongholds. Do you think that was an accident?
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> >Nontheless, with the exception of Clinton's re-election in '96 the
> >Democrats
> >> >have lost every major campaign since '94 and are now out of power and
can
> >> >mount no effective opposition other than obstruction.
> >>
> >>
> >> Since there're been 2 "major campaigns" since 94, that makes both
parties
> >> batting .500.
> >>
> >> >Their recent hero,
> >> >Clinton, was a pragmatist and closet conservative, anything so long as
it
> >> >got him power. So, other than the biggest tax increase in history,
name
> >ONE
> >> >major liberal adgenda item he either championed or got signed into
law.
> >>
> >> Family leave, environmental protection, workplace safety, kept abortion
> >rights
> >> from being taken away, Brady Bill, assault weapon ban...
> >>
> >>
> >I can't fault FMLA, in itself its a good thing. Workplace safety
sometimes
> >goes to far the way the laws are written. Whether you like it or not
Lloyd
> >there is such a thing as over regulation. I think abortion is wrong, but
its
> >not for me or anyone else to legislate it, hence I don't think it should
be
> >an issue.
> >The Brady Bill and assault weapons ban are a joke, if you actually got
out
> >of that ivory tower you're holed up in you might realize it. If it were
up
> >to you I could think of three people off the top of my head who might be
> >dead at the moment if they didn't have a firearm handy.
> >An Atlanta police officer's wife who killed her would be rapist.
> >A man who shot a would be carjacker on the northside of Atlanta somewhere
in
> >a Wal-Fart parking lot.
> >A wal-Fart employee in Florida somewhere IIRC who was being stabbed by
some
> >nutcase who was foiled by an old lady w/ a pistol.
> >
> >
> >
> And for each of those, there are family members shot in anger or
accidentally,
> suicides with a handy gun, children shooting children with a gun found in
the
> house, shooting of a neighbor the homeowner thought was a burglar, etc.
A complete lie. Better ditch those lying left wing sites and read some facts
Lloyd. In your words, Prove it.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <boe5a7$i0q$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years. Did you not
look at the data you keep harping on?
> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years. Did you not
look at the data you keep harping on?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <boe5a7$i0q$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years. Did you not
look at the data you keep harping on?
> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years. Did you not
look at the data you keep harping on?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <boe5a7$i0q$4@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years. Did you not
look at the data you keep harping on?
> CO2 put into the air by nature has been in balance for millions of years.
> It's man changing this equilibrium that's the problem.
CO2 content of the atmosphere been changing for millions years. Did you not
look at the data you keep harping on?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
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> In article <vqki81jfmomrb2@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Avfqb.86555$9E1.433801@attbi_s52...
> >> In article <vqiu9b3fm82i1e@corp.supernews.com>, The Ancient One wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bobrok01aff@enews3.newsguy.com...
> >> >> > You forget, it's the source and location of the CO2 that matters
in
> >the
> >> >> political arguement. Not that it simply takes from a carbon sink and
> >> >> releases CO2 to the atmosphere. A forest fire produces good CO2. An
> >> >> automobile in the USA produces bad CO2. A factory in China produces
> >good
> >> >> CO2. A factory in the USA produces bad CO2. A tractor on a farm in
the
> >USA
> >> >> > produces bad CO2. A coal fired electric plant in china produces
good
> >> > CO2.
> >> >> And on and on.
> >> >>
> >> >> BrentP nails the issue once again!
> >> >
> >> > He seems to have a knack for it, glad I'm not arguing against him.
:-)
> >>
> >> Thanks :)
> >>
> >> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience. First,
> >> Dr. Parker has been around the auto groups longer than I can
> >> remember so that's old hat. Secondly, I spent a trial by fire in
> >> politics er sci.environment where I learned the hard way how
> >> left-wingers masquading as environmentalists work. I had been
> >> naive and thought it was science group.
> >
> >
> >You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
> >
> >
> I've learned from science; you never have
You've never learned. period. You lose every argument you start, but you
keep starting more. Do you like being laughed at Lloyd?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vqki81jfmomrb2@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Avfqb.86555$9E1.433801@attbi_s52...
> >> In article <vqiu9b3fm82i1e@corp.supernews.com>, The Ancient One wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bobrok01aff@enews3.newsguy.com...
> >> >> > You forget, it's the source and location of the CO2 that matters
in
> >the
> >> >> political arguement. Not that it simply takes from a carbon sink and
> >> >> releases CO2 to the atmosphere. A forest fire produces good CO2. An
> >> >> automobile in the USA produces bad CO2. A factory in China produces
> >good
> >> >> CO2. A factory in the USA produces bad CO2. A tractor on a farm in
the
> >USA
> >> >> > produces bad CO2. A coal fired electric plant in china produces
good
> >> > CO2.
> >> >> And on and on.
> >> >>
> >> >> BrentP nails the issue once again!
> >> >
> >> > He seems to have a knack for it, glad I'm not arguing against him.
:-)
> >>
> >> Thanks :)
> >>
> >> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience. First,
> >> Dr. Parker has been around the auto groups longer than I can
> >> remember so that's old hat. Secondly, I spent a trial by fire in
> >> politics er sci.environment where I learned the hard way how
> >> left-wingers masquading as environmentalists work. I had been
> >> naive and thought it was science group.
> >
> >
> >You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
> >
> >
> I've learned from science; you never have
You've never learned. period. You lose every argument you start, but you
keep starting more. Do you like being laughed at Lloyd?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <vqki81jfmomrb2@corp.supernews.com>,
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:Avfqb.86555$9E1.433801@attbi_s52...
> >> In article <vqiu9b3fm82i1e@corp.supernews.com>, The Ancient One wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:bobrok01aff@enews3.newsguy.com...
> >> >> > You forget, it's the source and location of the CO2 that matters
in
> >the
> >> >> political arguement. Not that it simply takes from a carbon sink and
> >> >> releases CO2 to the atmosphere. A forest fire produces good CO2. An
> >> >> automobile in the USA produces bad CO2. A factory in China produces
> >good
> >> >> CO2. A factory in the USA produces bad CO2. A tractor on a farm in
the
> >USA
> >> >> > produces bad CO2. A coal fired electric plant in china produces
good
> >> > CO2.
> >> >> And on and on.
> >> >>
> >> >> BrentP nails the issue once again!
> >> >
> >> > He seems to have a knack for it, glad I'm not arguing against him.
:-)
> >>
> >> Thanks :)
> >>
> >> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience. First,
> >> Dr. Parker has been around the auto groups longer than I can
> >> remember so that's old hat. Secondly, I spent a trial by fire in
> >> politics er sci.environment where I learned the hard way how
> >> left-wingers masquading as environmentalists work. I had been
> >> naive and thought it was science group.
> >
> >
> >You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
> >
> >
> I've learned from science; you never have
You've never learned. period. You lose every argument you start, but you
keep starting more. Do you like being laughed at Lloyd?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
<snip>
>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
> I've learned from science; you never have.
I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
science.
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
<snip>
>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
> I've learned from science; you never have.
I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
science.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <boe695$i0q$21@puck.cc.emory.edu>, Lloyd Parker wrote:
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
<snip>
>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
> I've learned from science; you never have.
I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
science.
> "The Ancient One" <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
>>"Brent P" <tetraethyllead@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> But I have to admit, this is the product of experience.
<snip>
>>You've learned from experience, Lloyd never has. ;-)
> I've learned from science; you never have.
I've learned from science, and it's not science that you preach parker.
You spout political views and hide behind a PhD in chemistry as if
that makes your political views correct. You dismiss without discussion
any scientific data or analysis that challenges your beliefs. That is *NOT*
science.