Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
#3221
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> Because it's not a peer-reviewed scientific journal. You know, the kind real
> scientists publish in.
I find your repeated reference to "real scientist" to be somewhat irritating. Can
you define a "real scientist" as opposed to just a plain old "scientist"? Do you
consider "real scientist" to be ones that agree with you and those who don't are
"false scientist"? I know there are plenty of people who call themselves
scientist that I don't agree with. Many of them publish in peer reviewed
journals. Some of them just post messages to newsgroups. Can we consider that to
be a peer review?
Regards,
Ed White
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> Because it's not a peer-reviewed scientific journal. You know, the kind real
> scientists publish in.
I find your repeated reference to "real scientist" to be somewhat irritating. Can
you define a "real scientist" as opposed to just a plain old "scientist"? Do you
consider "real scientist" to be ones that agree with you and those who don't are
"false scientist"? I know there are plenty of people who call themselves
scientist that I don't agree with. Many of them publish in peer reviewed
journals. Some of them just post messages to newsgroups. Can we consider that to
be a peer review?
Regards,
Ed White
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> Because it's not a peer-reviewed scientific journal. You know, the kind real
> scientists publish in.
I find your repeated reference to "real scientist" to be somewhat irritating. Can
you define a "real scientist" as opposed to just a plain old "scientist"? Do you
consider "real scientist" to be ones that agree with you and those who don't are
"false scientist"? I know there are plenty of people who call themselves
scientist that I don't agree with. Many of them publish in peer reviewed
journals. Some of them just post messages to newsgroups. Can we consider that to
be a peer review?
Regards,
Ed White
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Well, whatever Lloyd. I asked for your opinion in good faith on a perfectly
interesting theory and you just don't respond.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bntmu5$k15$8@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: >Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess
that
: >when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
himself.
: >Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
: >don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
up
: >what he believes himself.
:
: Yes, I criticize dithering that doesn't come from science. Consider
yourself
: so criticized.
:
: >
: >Dave Milne, Scotland
: >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: >"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >: Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
: >and
: >: boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
for
: >: one would be genuinely interested.
: >:
: >: Dave Milne, Scotland
: >: '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >:
: >: "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
: >: news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
: >: : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
: >: :
: >: : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
: >:
: >:
: >
: >
interesting theory and you just don't respond.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bntmu5$k15$8@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: >Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess
that
: >when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
himself.
: >Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
: >don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
up
: >what he believes himself.
:
: Yes, I criticize dithering that doesn't come from science. Consider
yourself
: so criticized.
:
: >
: >Dave Milne, Scotland
: >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: >"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >: Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
: >and
: >: boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
for
: >: one would be genuinely interested.
: >:
: >: Dave Milne, Scotland
: >: '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >:
: >: "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
: >: news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
: >: : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
: >: :
: >: : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
: >:
: >:
: >
: >
#3225
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Well, whatever Lloyd. I asked for your opinion in good faith on a perfectly
interesting theory and you just don't respond.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bntmu5$k15$8@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: >Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess
that
: >when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
himself.
: >Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
: >don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
up
: >what he believes himself.
:
: Yes, I criticize dithering that doesn't come from science. Consider
yourself
: so criticized.
:
: >
: >Dave Milne, Scotland
: >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: >"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >: Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
: >and
: >: boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
for
: >: one would be genuinely interested.
: >:
: >: Dave Milne, Scotland
: >: '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >:
: >: "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
: >: news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
: >: : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
: >: :
: >: : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
: >:
: >:
: >
: >
interesting theory and you just don't respond.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bntmu5$k15$8@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: >Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess
that
: >when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
himself.
: >Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
: >don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
up
: >what he believes himself.
:
: Yes, I criticize dithering that doesn't come from science. Consider
yourself
: so criticized.
:
: >
: >Dave Milne, Scotland
: >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: >"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >: Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
: >and
: >: boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
for
: >: one would be genuinely interested.
: >:
: >: Dave Milne, Scotland
: >: '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >:
: >: "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
: >: news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
: >: : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
: >: :
: >: : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
: >:
: >:
: >
: >
#3226
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Well, whatever Lloyd. I asked for your opinion in good faith on a perfectly
interesting theory and you just don't respond.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bntmu5$k15$8@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: >Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess
that
: >when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
himself.
: >Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
: >don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
up
: >what he believes himself.
:
: Yes, I criticize dithering that doesn't come from science. Consider
yourself
: so criticized.
:
: >
: >Dave Milne, Scotland
: >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: >"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >: Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
: >and
: >: boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
for
: >: one would be genuinely interested.
: >:
: >: Dave Milne, Scotland
: >: '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >:
: >: "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
: >: news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
: >: : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
: >: :
: >: : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
: >:
: >:
: >
: >
interesting theory and you just don't respond.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bntmu5$k15$8@puck.cc.emory.edu...
: In article <eCbob.146$Eu7.2109481@news-text.cableinet.net>,
: "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
: >Looks like Lloyd replied to every other post except this one. I guess
that
: >when he shouts "Learn some science", our educator didn't mean from
himself.
: >Interesting how he is vocal in criticizing other opinions as long as they
: >don't come from other scientists, and equally has no intention in backing
up
: >what he believes himself.
:
: Yes, I criticize dithering that doesn't come from science. Consider
yourself
: so criticized.
:
: >
: >Dave Milne, Scotland
: >'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: >"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >news:d9Ynb.5397$QB7.49790167@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >: Lloyd, what's your opinion on the sunspot theory ? This has been a long
: >and
: >: boring thread, but if you can give us an intelligent critique on it, I
for
: >: one would be genuinely interested.
: >:
: >: Dave Milne, Scotland
: >: '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >:
: >: "Matthew S. Whiting" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
: >: news:3FA03D91.3080807@computer.org...
: >: : And now another theory as to possible causation for global warming:
: >: :
: >: : http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
: >:
: >:
: >
: >
#3227
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> I doubt many agree with you and your fascist buddies either.
> > >
> > >Do you even know what a fascist is Lloyd?
> > >
> > >
> > Yes, but you right-wingers obviously do not know what a socialist is.
>
> Fascism and Socialism have one thing in common... they view government as
> able to give and take away rights according to their respective value
> systems. That puts both of them on the opposite side of conservatism
where
> government is limited precisely because of it's belief in God given,
> individual, indivisible, inalienable rights that government as no
> jurisdiction over. Fascism and Socialism both reject that notion as
> government is the vehicle to compel their values on people.
>
> Democrats are in a constant dance on the edge of socialism. Their values
> include rejecting the unfairness of their being a large disparity between
> rich and poor, which isn't a bad value.... but their answer is to use
> government to compel "charity" or the "transfer of wealth" through taxes.
> The effort includes finding "rights" to justify this, like rights to
> employment, rights to minimum wages, rights of healthcare, rights to
> shelter, right to education, ad infinitum, which rights have to be "found"
> in the constitution via "activist", "progressive" judges.
>
>
Bravo! Couldn't have put that better myself. Read and try to open your mind
just a bit Lloyd maybe you'll learn something.
#3228
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"David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> I doubt many agree with you and your fascist buddies either.
> > >
> > >Do you even know what a fascist is Lloyd?
> > >
> > >
> > Yes, but you right-wingers obviously do not know what a socialist is.
>
> Fascism and Socialism have one thing in common... they view government as
> able to give and take away rights according to their respective value
> systems. That puts both of them on the opposite side of conservatism
where
> government is limited precisely because of it's belief in God given,
> individual, indivisible, inalienable rights that government as no
> jurisdiction over. Fascism and Socialism both reject that notion as
> government is the vehicle to compel their values on people.
>
> Democrats are in a constant dance on the edge of socialism. Their values
> include rejecting the unfairness of their being a large disparity between
> rich and poor, which isn't a bad value.... but their answer is to use
> government to compel "charity" or the "transfer of wealth" through taxes.
> The effort includes finding "rights" to justify this, like rights to
> employment, rights to minimum wages, rights of healthcare, rights to
> shelter, right to education, ad infinitum, which rights have to be "found"
> in the constitution via "activist", "progressive" judges.
>
>
Bravo! Couldn't have put that better myself. Read and try to open your mind
just a bit Lloyd maybe you'll learn something.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"David J. Allen" <dallen03NO_SPAM@sanNO_SPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:FV9qb.54150$Ub4.32412@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> I doubt many agree with you and your fascist buddies either.
> > >
> > >Do you even know what a fascist is Lloyd?
> > >
> > >
> > Yes, but you right-wingers obviously do not know what a socialist is.
>
> Fascism and Socialism have one thing in common... they view government as
> able to give and take away rights according to their respective value
> systems. That puts both of them on the opposite side of conservatism
where
> government is limited precisely because of it's belief in God given,
> individual, indivisible, inalienable rights that government as no
> jurisdiction over. Fascism and Socialism both reject that notion as
> government is the vehicle to compel their values on people.
>
> Democrats are in a constant dance on the edge of socialism. Their values
> include rejecting the unfairness of their being a large disparity between
> rich and poor, which isn't a bad value.... but their answer is to use
> government to compel "charity" or the "transfer of wealth" through taxes.
> The effort includes finding "rights" to justify this, like rights to
> employment, rights to minimum wages, rights of healthcare, rights to
> shelter, right to education, ad infinitum, which rights have to be "found"
> in the constitution via "activist", "progressive" judges.
>
>
Bravo! Couldn't have put that better myself. Read and try to open your mind
just a bit Lloyd maybe you'll learn something.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bob0lp$s2a$3@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <7wVpb.9500$Oo4.4594@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
> "FDRanger92" <csu13081@nospammail.clayton.edu> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bo8k18$3lv$5@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <bo6rhb0rvn@enews3.newsguy.com>,
> >> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorgenospam@frontier.net> wrote:
> >> >> Just like I said - when you have nothing to say, you right-wingers
> >resort
> >> >to name-calling. <
> >> >
> >> >Why is it you leftist ******** always think anyone who disagreees with
> >you
> >> >is a "right-winger"? No wonder no one takes you seriously any longer.
> >> >
> >> >> > I register as an independent and in '00 I voted for Nader.
> >> >
> >> >> B.S. Nader was well to the left of Gore, and you sound just like a
> >> >commercial for Rush or Hannity. <
> >> >
> >> >But, Nader is not part of the Republicrat establishment, is he?
Neither
> >was
> >> >Perot, who I voted for the previous two elections.
> >> >
> >> >By the way, if you can purge your shallow little leftist mind of all
the
> >> >Socialist indoctrination
> >>
> >> If you're going to call people names, it hardly behooves you to ****
and
> >moan
> >> when they call you names.
> >>
> >>
> >> >you've been fed you'll find that people in the
> >> >middle and on the right often have quite well formed positions on
matters
> >> >that the left has managed to dominate, and ---- UP, for over 50 years.
> >> >
> >> >I hate to challenge your little leftist sensibilities, but Bill
Clinton
> >was
> >> >not a liberal, he was just a politician wanting more & more power. He
was
> >a
> >> >HYPOCRITE of the first order.
> >>
> >> And gee, wasn't the country doing great under him?
> >>
> >> >Al Gore lost becuase he couldn't carry his own State, where he got
> >creamed
> >> >because he no longer represented the values of the people who sent him
to
> >> >Washington in the first place, and because Nader sucked off the Green
> >vote
> >> >which he'd not convinced.
> >> >
> >> >> Given the crap the Democrats are putting up as leaders, I'll vote
for
> >Bush
> >> >this time for sure.
> >> >
> >> >> Uhh-huh. As if there was a chance you'd vote any other way... <
> >> >
> >> >And that's the problem, isn't it Jonesey, too many people, indeed a
> >MAJORITY
> >> >of us, don't agree with you and your Socialist buddies! (Get used to
> >being
> >> >irrelevant....)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> I doubt many agree with you and your fascist buddies either.
> >
> >Do you even know what a fascist is Lloyd?
> >
> >
> Yes, but you right-wingers obviously do not know what a socialist is.
I'm not a right-winger Lloyd, I've just got enough common-sense to not
swallow either line from the far left or far right hook, line, and sinker
like you so obviously do from the far left.