Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<bnuuae0m7h@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> Or, an idealist who gets his first pay check and realizes he's just spent
> 50% of his time working for the Government.
Yet another right-wing lie.
No beginning worker spends even half that amount to The Government.
More -------- propaganda from the right.
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Jonesy
> Or, an idealist who gets his first pay check and realizes he's just spent
> 50% of his time working for the Government.
Yet another right-wing lie.
No beginning worker spends even half that amount to The Government.
More -------- propaganda from the right.
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<bnuuae0m7h@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> Or, an idealist who gets his first pay check and realizes he's just spent
> 50% of his time working for the Government.
Yet another right-wing lie.
No beginning worker spends even half that amount to The Government.
More -------- propaganda from the right.
--
Jonesy
> Or, an idealist who gets his first pay check and realizes he's just spent
> 50% of his time working for the Government.
Yet another right-wing lie.
No beginning worker spends even half that amount to The Government.
More -------- propaganda from the right.
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote in message news:<w7WdndSuksbL-juiRTvUqA@speakeasy.net>...
> In article <vq5iopdvnltc16@corp.supernews.com>,
> The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bntn2d$k15$9@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <3fa134cc$1$236$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
> >> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >I suppose it depends on what you use as definition of the sun. Strictly,
> >> >the verse implying the sun and the moon certainly comes after plants, but
> >> >"light" in general came before that.
> >>
> >> Did God have a big halogen lamp then?
> >
> >If God is real, and God created the Universe, then God could have anything
> >he desired, including a big Halogen light.
>
> He preferred the color temperature of nuclear fusion, though.
LOL. Perfect.
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Jonesy
> In article <vq5iopdvnltc16@corp.supernews.com>,
> The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bntn2d$k15$9@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <3fa134cc$1$236$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
> >> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >I suppose it depends on what you use as definition of the sun. Strictly,
> >> >the verse implying the sun and the moon certainly comes after plants, but
> >> >"light" in general came before that.
> >>
> >> Did God have a big halogen lamp then?
> >
> >If God is real, and God created the Universe, then God could have anything
> >he desired, including a big Halogen light.
>
> He preferred the color temperature of nuclear fusion, though.
LOL. Perfect.
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote in message news:<w7WdndSuksbL-juiRTvUqA@speakeasy.net>...
> In article <vq5iopdvnltc16@corp.supernews.com>,
> The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bntn2d$k15$9@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <3fa134cc$1$236$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
> >> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >I suppose it depends on what you use as definition of the sun. Strictly,
> >> >the verse implying the sun and the moon certainly comes after plants, but
> >> >"light" in general came before that.
> >>
> >> Did God have a big halogen lamp then?
> >
> >If God is real, and God created the Universe, then God could have anything
> >he desired, including a big Halogen light.
>
> He preferred the color temperature of nuclear fusion, though.
LOL. Perfect.
--
Jonesy
> In article <vq5iopdvnltc16@corp.supernews.com>,
> The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bntn2d$k15$9@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <3fa134cc$1$236$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
> >> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >I suppose it depends on what you use as definition of the sun. Strictly,
> >> >the verse implying the sun and the moon certainly comes after plants, but
> >> >"light" in general came before that.
> >>
> >> Did God have a big halogen lamp then?
> >
> >If God is real, and God created the Universe, then God could have anything
> >he desired, including a big Halogen light.
>
> He preferred the color temperature of nuclear fusion, though.
LOL. Perfect.
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote in message news:<w7WdndSuksbL-juiRTvUqA@speakeasy.net>...
> In article <vq5iopdvnltc16@corp.supernews.com>,
> The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bntn2d$k15$9@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <3fa134cc$1$236$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
> >> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >I suppose it depends on what you use as definition of the sun. Strictly,
> >> >the verse implying the sun and the moon certainly comes after plants, but
> >> >"light" in general came before that.
> >>
> >> Did God have a big halogen lamp then?
> >
> >If God is real, and God created the Universe, then God could have anything
> >he desired, including a big Halogen light.
>
> He preferred the color temperature of nuclear fusion, though.
LOL. Perfect.
--
Jonesy
> In article <vq5iopdvnltc16@corp.supernews.com>,
> The Ancient One <onlytheone@thetopknows.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
> >news:bntn2d$k15$9@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> >> In article <3fa134cc$1$236$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
> >> "Dori Schmetterling" <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >I suppose it depends on what you use as definition of the sun. Strictly,
> >> >the verse implying the sun and the moon certainly comes after plants, but
> >> >"light" in general came before that.
> >>
> >> Did God have a big halogen lamp then?
> >
> >If God is real, and God created the Universe, then God could have anything
> >he desired, including a big Halogen light.
>
> He preferred the color temperature of nuclear fusion, though.
LOL. Perfect.
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote in message news:<3FA477D7.17FA7CE8@kinez.net>...
> Jonesy wrote:
> >
> > ...Remember that Bin Laden was following his
> > convictions, too...
>
> Just having convictions isn't enough.
I'm not claiming it is. I am in fact claiming EXACTLY what you are
saying - having convictions isn't enough.
> Just because someone has
> convictions doesn't mean I respect them. Hitler had convictions.
Indeed. As does bin Laden and the Ayatollah, etc, etc.
> I'd say that it makes a heck of a lot of difference **WHAT** those
> convictions are.
Yes, it's true. Respecting someone just because he follows up on his
convictions is stupid.
> Bin Laden? Bush? - yeah, I'll take Bush any day.
Not me. Moral relativism is repugnant.
I'll take *neither.*
Bush is no more worthy of respect for following up his convictions
than bin Laden or Hitler - if you have to lie or propagandize to get
others to do your bidding, then maybe your cause is not as just as you
imagine...
--
Jonesy
> Jonesy wrote:
> >
> > ...Remember that Bin Laden was following his
> > convictions, too...
>
> Just having convictions isn't enough.
I'm not claiming it is. I am in fact claiming EXACTLY what you are
saying - having convictions isn't enough.
> Just because someone has
> convictions doesn't mean I respect them. Hitler had convictions.
Indeed. As does bin Laden and the Ayatollah, etc, etc.
> I'd say that it makes a heck of a lot of difference **WHAT** those
> convictions are.
Yes, it's true. Respecting someone just because he follows up on his
convictions is stupid.
> Bin Laden? Bush? - yeah, I'll take Bush any day.
Not me. Moral relativism is repugnant.
I'll take *neither.*
Bush is no more worthy of respect for following up his convictions
than bin Laden or Hitler - if you have to lie or propagandize to get
others to do your bidding, then maybe your cause is not as just as you
imagine...
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote in message news:<3FA477D7.17FA7CE8@kinez.net>...
> Jonesy wrote:
> >
> > ...Remember that Bin Laden was following his
> > convictions, too...
>
> Just having convictions isn't enough.
I'm not claiming it is. I am in fact claiming EXACTLY what you are
saying - having convictions isn't enough.
> Just because someone has
> convictions doesn't mean I respect them. Hitler had convictions.
Indeed. As does bin Laden and the Ayatollah, etc, etc.
> I'd say that it makes a heck of a lot of difference **WHAT** those
> convictions are.
Yes, it's true. Respecting someone just because he follows up on his
convictions is stupid.
> Bin Laden? Bush? - yeah, I'll take Bush any day.
Not me. Moral relativism is repugnant.
I'll take *neither.*
Bush is no more worthy of respect for following up his convictions
than bin Laden or Hitler - if you have to lie or propagandize to get
others to do your bidding, then maybe your cause is not as just as you
imagine...
--
Jonesy
> Jonesy wrote:
> >
> > ...Remember that Bin Laden was following his
> > convictions, too...
>
> Just having convictions isn't enough.
I'm not claiming it is. I am in fact claiming EXACTLY what you are
saying - having convictions isn't enough.
> Just because someone has
> convictions doesn't mean I respect them. Hitler had convictions.
Indeed. As does bin Laden and the Ayatollah, etc, etc.
> I'd say that it makes a heck of a lot of difference **WHAT** those
> convictions are.
Yes, it's true. Respecting someone just because he follows up on his
convictions is stupid.
> Bin Laden? Bush? - yeah, I'll take Bush any day.
Not me. Moral relativism is repugnant.
I'll take *neither.*
Bush is no more worthy of respect for following up his convictions
than bin Laden or Hitler - if you have to lie or propagandize to get
others to do your bidding, then maybe your cause is not as just as you
imagine...
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Bill Putney <bputney@kinez.net> wrote in message news:<3FA477D7.17FA7CE8@kinez.net>...
> Jonesy wrote:
> >
> > ...Remember that Bin Laden was following his
> > convictions, too...
>
> Just having convictions isn't enough.
I'm not claiming it is. I am in fact claiming EXACTLY what you are
saying - having convictions isn't enough.
> Just because someone has
> convictions doesn't mean I respect them. Hitler had convictions.
Indeed. As does bin Laden and the Ayatollah, etc, etc.
> I'd say that it makes a heck of a lot of difference **WHAT** those
> convictions are.
Yes, it's true. Respecting someone just because he follows up on his
convictions is stupid.
> Bin Laden? Bush? - yeah, I'll take Bush any day.
Not me. Moral relativism is repugnant.
I'll take *neither.*
Bush is no more worthy of respect for following up his convictions
than bin Laden or Hitler - if you have to lie or propagandize to get
others to do your bidding, then maybe your cause is not as just as you
imagine...
--
Jonesy
> Jonesy wrote:
> >
> > ...Remember that Bin Laden was following his
> > convictions, too...
>
> Just having convictions isn't enough.
I'm not claiming it is. I am in fact claiming EXACTLY what you are
saying - having convictions isn't enough.
> Just because someone has
> convictions doesn't mean I respect them. Hitler had convictions.
Indeed. As does bin Laden and the Ayatollah, etc, etc.
> I'd say that it makes a heck of a lot of difference **WHAT** those
> convictions are.
Yes, it's true. Respecting someone just because he follows up on his
convictions is stupid.
> Bin Laden? Bush? - yeah, I'll take Bush any day.
Not me. Moral relativism is repugnant.
I'll take *neither.*
Bush is no more worthy of respect for following up his convictions
than bin Laden or Hitler - if you have to lie or propagandize to get
others to do your bidding, then maybe your cause is not as just as you
imagine...
--
Jonesy
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Jonesy wrote:
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<bnuuae0m7h@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> > Or, an idealist who gets his first pay check and realizes he's just spent
> > 50% of his time working for the Government.
>
> Yet another right-wing lie.
>
> No beginning worker spends even half that amount to The Government.
In defense of Gerald, it dpends on your loaction and the starting pay. I'd guess some engineers in high
tax staes could be approaching 50% when you include Social Security (both sides, not just "your half") and
state and city taxes. And if you include all the taxes you pay, both direct annd indirect, I'd guess a lot
of people pay more than 50% of their income to various governments.
Ed
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Jonesy wrote:
> "Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message news:<bnuuae0m7h@enews4.newsguy.com>...
> > Or, an idealist who gets his first pay check and realizes he's just spent
> > 50% of his time working for the Government.
>
> Yet another right-wing lie.
>
> No beginning worker spends even half that amount to The Government.
In defense of Gerald, it dpends on your loaction and the starting pay. I'd guess some engineers in high
tax staes could be approaching 50% when you include Social Security (both sides, not just "your half") and
state and city taxes. And if you include all the taxes you pay, both direct annd indirect, I'd guess a lot
of people pay more than 50% of their income to various governments.
Ed