Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> CO2 traps heat. Fact. The earth is warming. Fact. CO2 is rising. Fact.
They could be unrelated events, or maybe, global warming causes an
increase in CO2.
I just formulated a brilliant new theory as to the cause of global
warming. It is the Chicago Cubs. When they win the world series, global
cooling will start or maybe global cooling will start and the Cubs will
win the world series. Hard to decide on cause and effect. However, I am
certain that global warming is responsible for the increase in major
league baseball home runs. I mean after all, we all know that warmer air
is thinner and offers less resistance so the baseballs can fly further.
Or maybe all those baseballs flying further are heating the air and
causing global warming. Damn, I need a good scientist to study this for
me. I bet with a computer model I can predict the home run totals for
the next 50 years based on the increase in CO2 concentration or maybe I
can predict the rise in global temperatures based on the number of home
runs. Any volunteers? I bet there is a grant in this somewhere. Bush is
a baseball fan, maybe he'll set up a special commission to study the
effects of global warming on baseball. I smell lots of pork just waiting
to be picked up by a clever scientist and/or politician. Heck, the
envirowackos can even use this as another reason for outlawing SUVs. The
case is clear, SUVs are destroying baseball! (and maybe golf too, the
superheated air is letting those golf ***** fly too d&*n far).
Ed
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> CO2 traps heat. Fact. The earth is warming. Fact. CO2 is rising. Fact.
They could be unrelated events, or maybe, global warming causes an
increase in CO2.
I just formulated a brilliant new theory as to the cause of global
warming. It is the Chicago Cubs. When they win the world series, global
cooling will start or maybe global cooling will start and the Cubs will
win the world series. Hard to decide on cause and effect. However, I am
certain that global warming is responsible for the increase in major
league baseball home runs. I mean after all, we all know that warmer air
is thinner and offers less resistance so the baseballs can fly further.
Or maybe all those baseballs flying further are heating the air and
causing global warming. Damn, I need a good scientist to study this for
me. I bet with a computer model I can predict the home run totals for
the next 50 years based on the increase in CO2 concentration or maybe I
can predict the rise in global temperatures based on the number of home
runs. Any volunteers? I bet there is a grant in this somewhere. Bush is
a baseball fan, maybe he'll set up a special commission to study the
effects of global warming on baseball. I smell lots of pork just waiting
to be picked up by a clever scientist and/or politician. Heck, the
envirowackos can even use this as another reason for outlawing SUVs. The
case is clear, SUVs are destroying baseball! (and maybe golf too, the
superheated air is letting those golf ***** fly too d&*n far).
Ed
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> CO2 traps heat. Fact. The earth is warming. Fact. CO2 is rising. Fact.
They could be unrelated events, or maybe, global warming causes an
increase in CO2.
I just formulated a brilliant new theory as to the cause of global
warming. It is the Chicago Cubs. When they win the world series, global
cooling will start or maybe global cooling will start and the Cubs will
win the world series. Hard to decide on cause and effect. However, I am
certain that global warming is responsible for the increase in major
league baseball home runs. I mean after all, we all know that warmer air
is thinner and offers less resistance so the baseballs can fly further.
Or maybe all those baseballs flying further are heating the air and
causing global warming. Damn, I need a good scientist to study this for
me. I bet with a computer model I can predict the home run totals for
the next 50 years based on the increase in CO2 concentration or maybe I
can predict the rise in global temperatures based on the number of home
runs. Any volunteers? I bet there is a grant in this somewhere. Bush is
a baseball fan, maybe he'll set up a special commission to study the
effects of global warming on baseball. I smell lots of pork just waiting
to be picked up by a clever scientist and/or politician. Heck, the
envirowackos can even use this as another reason for outlawing SUVs. The
case is clear, SUVs are destroying baseball! (and maybe golf too, the
superheated air is letting those golf ***** fly too d&*n far).
Ed
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> If you look at the data (I know that's a foreign concept to you), global
> warming began around the middle of the 19th century, as human combustion
> activities started picking up.
Ahh yes, more support for my theory that baseball is responsible for
global warming! After all didn't baseball get started around the middle
of the 19th century. Didn't global warming really begin to accelerate as
professional teams were formed? And look at the most recent spike -
doesn't it correlate well to the addition of the Marlins, Diamondbacks,
and Devil Rays? Adding hot weather teams was obviously the stray that
will destroy our climate. At all cost we must keep the Expos out of
Puerto Rico.
Ed
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> If you look at the data (I know that's a foreign concept to you), global
> warming began around the middle of the 19th century, as human combustion
> activities started picking up.
Ahh yes, more support for my theory that baseball is responsible for
global warming! After all didn't baseball get started around the middle
of the 19th century. Didn't global warming really begin to accelerate as
professional teams were formed? And look at the most recent spike -
doesn't it correlate well to the addition of the Marlins, Diamondbacks,
and Devil Rays? Adding hot weather teams was obviously the stray that
will destroy our climate. At all cost we must keep the Expos out of
Puerto Rico.
Ed
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
> If you look at the data (I know that's a foreign concept to you), global
> warming began around the middle of the 19th century, as human combustion
> activities started picking up.
Ahh yes, more support for my theory that baseball is responsible for
global warming! After all didn't baseball get started around the middle
of the 19th century. Didn't global warming really begin to accelerate as
professional teams were formed? And look at the most recent spike -
doesn't it correlate well to the addition of the Marlins, Diamondbacks,
and Devil Rays? Adding hot weather teams was obviously the stray that
will destroy our climate. At all cost we must keep the Expos out of
Puerto Rico.
Ed
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Brent P wrote:
> The big problem for ford with the pinto was a known failure mode (the
> long seatbelt hold down bolt) that they didn't correct, but instead
> did a cost calculation on. But true, pintos were no more prone to
> fire than other cars of that size class and era.
This isn't even right. There was no cost calculation related directly to
the Pinto and it wasn't necessarily a seat belt bolt that ruptured the
tank. There were supposedly three modes of failure that could cause a
problem - 1) the fuel tank was shoved into the rear axle or body
hardware and ruptured, 2) the fuel filler tube pulled out of the tank
during a violent crash and fuel spilled from the opening in the side of
the tank, and 3) the fuel filler detached from the body leaving the gas
cap behind and fuel spilled from the open tube. Early Pintos were
recalled and fitted with three things to address these problem - 1) a
polyethylene shield that wrapped around the bottom of the tank and up to
the front to reduce potential damage from the rear axle or body
hardware, 2) a longer filler pipe, and 3) a reinforcement ring and
security screws to secure the filler neck to the body. I was very
familiar with the fixes (we owned two Pintos). Also I worked at Ford for
a brief period during the peak of the trial hysteria. You would not
believe how many perfectly good cars Ford crashed in order to gather
supporting evidence for the trial. I particularly lusted after the
remains of a Datsun 240Z they crashed. Unfortunately truth and justice
had little or nothing to do with the outcome of the trial. Ford lost and
we all pay.
Regards,
Ed White
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Brent P wrote:
> The big problem for ford with the pinto was a known failure mode (the
> long seatbelt hold down bolt) that they didn't correct, but instead
> did a cost calculation on. But true, pintos were no more prone to
> fire than other cars of that size class and era.
This isn't even right. There was no cost calculation related directly to
the Pinto and it wasn't necessarily a seat belt bolt that ruptured the
tank. There were supposedly three modes of failure that could cause a
problem - 1) the fuel tank was shoved into the rear axle or body
hardware and ruptured, 2) the fuel filler tube pulled out of the tank
during a violent crash and fuel spilled from the opening in the side of
the tank, and 3) the fuel filler detached from the body leaving the gas
cap behind and fuel spilled from the open tube. Early Pintos were
recalled and fitted with three things to address these problem - 1) a
polyethylene shield that wrapped around the bottom of the tank and up to
the front to reduce potential damage from the rear axle or body
hardware, 2) a longer filler pipe, and 3) a reinforcement ring and
security screws to secure the filler neck to the body. I was very
familiar with the fixes (we owned two Pintos). Also I worked at Ford for
a brief period during the peak of the trial hysteria. You would not
believe how many perfectly good cars Ford crashed in order to gather
supporting evidence for the trial. I particularly lusted after the
remains of a Datsun 240Z they crashed. Unfortunately truth and justice
had little or nothing to do with the outcome of the trial. Ford lost and
we all pay.
Regards,
Ed White
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Brent P wrote:
> The big problem for ford with the pinto was a known failure mode (the
> long seatbelt hold down bolt) that they didn't correct, but instead
> did a cost calculation on. But true, pintos were no more prone to
> fire than other cars of that size class and era.
This isn't even right. There was no cost calculation related directly to
the Pinto and it wasn't necessarily a seat belt bolt that ruptured the
tank. There were supposedly three modes of failure that could cause a
problem - 1) the fuel tank was shoved into the rear axle or body
hardware and ruptured, 2) the fuel filler tube pulled out of the tank
during a violent crash and fuel spilled from the opening in the side of
the tank, and 3) the fuel filler detached from the body leaving the gas
cap behind and fuel spilled from the open tube. Early Pintos were
recalled and fitted with three things to address these problem - 1) a
polyethylene shield that wrapped around the bottom of the tank and up to
the front to reduce potential damage from the rear axle or body
hardware, 2) a longer filler pipe, and 3) a reinforcement ring and
security screws to secure the filler neck to the body. I was very
familiar with the fixes (we owned two Pintos). Also I worked at Ford for
a brief period during the peak of the trial hysteria. You would not
believe how many perfectly good cars Ford crashed in order to gather
supporting evidence for the trial. I particularly lusted after the
remains of a Datsun 240Z they crashed. Unfortunately truth and justice
had little or nothing to do with the outcome of the trial. Ford lost and
we all pay.
Regards,
Ed White
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <3F501989.737DAFEF@mindspring.com>, C. E. White wrote:
>
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> If you look at the data (I know that's a foreign concept to you), global
>> warming began around the middle of the 19th century, as human combustion
>> activities started picking up.
>
>
> Ahh yes, more support for my theory that baseball is responsible for
> global warming! After all didn't baseball get started around the middle
> of the 19th century. Didn't global warming really begin to accelerate as
> professional teams were formed? And look at the most recent spike -
> doesn't it correlate well to the addition of the Marlins, Diamondbacks,
> and Devil Rays? Adding hot weather teams was obviously the stray that
> will destroy our climate. At all cost we must keep the Expos out of
> Puerto Rico.
All we need is a plot of baseball games played vs. global mean temp.
Oh and to add to this, according to the global warming true believers
it really started ramping up in the post war years.... this fits the
baseball model as the sport was introduced to new populations.
We just need to gather all this baseball data and plot it agains mann,
1998. :)
>
>
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
>> If you look at the data (I know that's a foreign concept to you), global
>> warming began around the middle of the 19th century, as human combustion
>> activities started picking up.
>
>
> Ahh yes, more support for my theory that baseball is responsible for
> global warming! After all didn't baseball get started around the middle
> of the 19th century. Didn't global warming really begin to accelerate as
> professional teams were formed? And look at the most recent spike -
> doesn't it correlate well to the addition of the Marlins, Diamondbacks,
> and Devil Rays? Adding hot weather teams was obviously the stray that
> will destroy our climate. At all cost we must keep the Expos out of
> Puerto Rico.
All we need is a plot of baseball games played vs. global mean temp.
Oh and to add to this, according to the global warming true believers
it really started ramping up in the post war years.... this fits the
baseball model as the sport was introduced to new populations.
We just need to gather all this baseball data and plot it agains mann,
1998. :)