Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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> >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> >
> Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a reply
here) -Dave
> >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> >
> Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a reply
here) -Dave
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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> >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> >
> Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a reply
here) -Dave
> >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> >
> Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a reply
here) -Dave
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
> >
> >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> >
> Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a reply
here) -Dave
> >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> >
> Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a reply
here) -Dave
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Subaru (any model).
"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> > >
> > Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
>
> Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a
reply
> here) -Dave
>
>
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> > >
> > >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> > >
> > Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
>
> Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a
reply
> here) -Dave
>
>
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Subaru (any model).
"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> > >
> > Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
>
> Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a
reply
> here) -Dave
>
>
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> > >
> > >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> > >
> > Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
>
> Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a
reply
> here) -Dave
>
>
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Subaru (any model).
"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> > >
> > Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
>
> Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a
reply
> here) -Dave
>
>
"Dave C." <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > >Maybe because 'being safe' includes 4x4 capability for bad weather.
> > >
> > Which lots of cars and minivans offer.
>
> Name one that is a good value for the money. (I don't really expect a
reply
> here) -Dave
>
>
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lies, all a pack of lies."
Lloyd, these are all BILL CLINTON statements... Are you saying that BILL
CLINTON lied? I guess it depends on your definition of LIE...
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bn8mhm$8s6$4@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bn6g40$u4osv$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote:
> >"Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> >Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too.
<snip>
> > If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in
his
> >footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act
> >with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United
Nations
> >Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction
> >program.
> >
> >
> >
> So where are those huge quantities? Where is the uranium? Where are
those
> drones that could deliver it all here?
>
> Lies, all a pack of lies.
Lloyd, these are all BILL CLINTON statements... Are you saying that BILL
CLINTON lied? I guess it depends on your definition of LIE...
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bn8mhm$8s6$4@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bn6g40$u4osv$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote:
> >"Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> >Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too.
<snip>
> > If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in
his
> >footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act
> >with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United
Nations
> >Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction
> >program.
> >
> >
> >
> So where are those huge quantities? Where is the uranium? Where are
those
> drones that could deliver it all here?
>
> Lies, all a pack of lies.
#1848
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lies, all a pack of lies."
Lloyd, these are all BILL CLINTON statements... Are you saying that BILL
CLINTON lied? I guess it depends on your definition of LIE...
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bn8mhm$8s6$4@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bn6g40$u4osv$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote:
> >"Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> >Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too.
<snip>
> > If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in
his
> >footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act
> >with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United
Nations
> >Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction
> >program.
> >
> >
> >
> So where are those huge quantities? Where is the uranium? Where are
those
> drones that could deliver it all here?
>
> Lies, all a pack of lies.
Lloyd, these are all BILL CLINTON statements... Are you saying that BILL
CLINTON lied? I guess it depends on your definition of LIE...
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bn8mhm$8s6$4@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bn6g40$u4osv$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote:
> >"Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> >Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too.
<snip>
> > If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in
his
> >footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act
> >with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United
Nations
> >Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction
> >program.
> >
> >
> >
> So where are those huge quantities? Where is the uranium? Where are
those
> drones that could deliver it all here?
>
> Lies, all a pack of lies.
#1849
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
"Lies, all a pack of lies."
Lloyd, these are all BILL CLINTON statements... Are you saying that BILL
CLINTON lied? I guess it depends on your definition of LIE...
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bn8mhm$8s6$4@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bn6g40$u4osv$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote:
> >"Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> >Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too.
<snip>
> > If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in
his
> >footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act
> >with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United
Nations
> >Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction
> >program.
> >
> >
> >
> So where are those huge quantities? Where is the uranium? Where are
those
> drones that could deliver it all here?
>
> Lies, all a pack of lies.
Lloyd, these are all BILL CLINTON statements... Are you saying that BILL
CLINTON lied? I guess it depends on your definition of LIE...
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu> wrote in message
news:bn8mhm$8s6$4@puck.cc.emory.edu...
> In article <bn6g40$u4osv$1@ID-207166.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "Joe" <me@privacy.net (jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> wrote:
> >"Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> >Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too.
<snip>
> > If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in
his
> >footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act
> >with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United
Nations
> >Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction
> >program.
> >
> >
> >
> So where are those huge quantities? Where is the uranium? Where are
those
> drones that could deliver it all here?
>
> Lies, all a pack of lies.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Why the reputations are better is likely due to advertising strategy,
but the facts tell a different story. Comparing actual death rates per
million registered vehicle years shows the following data (IIHS.ORG):
Mercedes C class = 52
Volvo 850 - 39
Ford Expedition 4WD = 39
=Vic=
Bear Gap, PA
Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <joPlb.7776$Tr4.26144@attbi_s03>, Kevin <Kevin@el.net> wrote:
> >RJ wrote:
> >> Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>RJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Remember the days when you could buy a wagon and expect to haul plywood
> >>>>>and tow a trailer with it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>1. No 4x4 (a factor wherever it snows)
> >>>>2. Those old beasts delivered around 12 mpg.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you claim that point 2 is negated by modern technology, everything
> >>>>I've seen with seriously higher gas mileage is front wheel drive and is
> >>>>therefore worthless as a towing vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>That's not the fault of "passenger cars" per se, it's the fault of CAFE
> >>>which has killed the full sized car as we once knew it.
> >>
> >>
> >> The only true full size car left is the Crown Vic. Still rear wheel
> > dirve with steel frame. Big fan, and heavy enough to keep you alive.
> >
> Then why do many smaller cars -- Volvos, Mercedes, etc. -- have better safety
> records and better safety reputations?
>
> And ask the hundreds of police officers killed by their CVs exploding and
> burning them to death about the car keeping you alive. No, wait, you can't,
> they're DEAD!
but the facts tell a different story. Comparing actual death rates per
million registered vehicle years shows the following data (IIHS.ORG):
Mercedes C class = 52
Volvo 850 - 39
Ford Expedition 4WD = 39
=Vic=
Bear Gap, PA
Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> In article <joPlb.7776$Tr4.26144@attbi_s03>, Kevin <Kevin@el.net> wrote:
> >RJ wrote:
> >> Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>RJ wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Nate Nagel <njnagel@hornytoad.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Remember the days when you could buy a wagon and expect to haul plywood
> >>>>>and tow a trailer with it?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>1. No 4x4 (a factor wherever it snows)
> >>>>2. Those old beasts delivered around 12 mpg.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you claim that point 2 is negated by modern technology, everything
> >>>>I've seen with seriously higher gas mileage is front wheel drive and is
> >>>>therefore worthless as a towing vehicle.
> >>>
> >>>That's not the fault of "passenger cars" per se, it's the fault of CAFE
> >>>which has killed the full sized car as we once knew it.
> >>
> >>
> >> The only true full size car left is the Crown Vic. Still rear wheel
> > dirve with steel frame. Big fan, and heavy enough to keep you alive.
> >
> Then why do many smaller cars -- Volvos, Mercedes, etc. -- have better safety
> records and better safety reputations?
>
> And ask the hundreds of police officers killed by their CVs exploding and
> burning them to death about the car keeping you alive. No, wait, you can't,
> they're DEAD!