Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
#1731
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Joe wrote:
>
> "Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too. Or ask the UN who as a body
> said that he had them. Or better yet, ask Saddam who ADMITTED to having
> them (OK, not a good source). The whole WMD "argument" is weak at best...
> He had them, you KNOW it. There is proof of it.
>
> Read what Bill Clinton had to say about the matter during his reign of
> terror:...
And of course Lloyd will find some way not to accept that information as
facts (proving what you said in your preceding post).
You'd think that Lloyd, being some kind of teacher of science, would
understand the law of the conservation of mass. It essentially says that
in a closed system, the amount (mass) of matter stays constant. If you
consider the earth a closed system (we can assume that SH didn't rocket
them off into space), then if SH had them a few years ago, then they
still exist (that is, if you subtract out the ones that were used on his
own people) - somewhere on earth. They must either still be in Iraq
(either above or below ground), or in some other country(ies). If they
were destroyed (i.e., converted to a harmless form), then that should be
documentable or provable in some physical way. Conservation of mass.
Summary: In order not to violate the law of the conservation of mass, if
they existed they would have to have been:
(1) Dissipated (by use)
(2) Moved and found (so far no)
(3) Moved and not found found (i.e., well hidden - buried, built into
structures - concrete maybe, or moved to another country)
(4) Shot into space
All that the world demanded was that he show them or account for their
destruction, and he in effect refused. Then the rest of the world
decided that they really didn't mean it.
Bill Putney
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#1732
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Joe wrote:
>
> "Where are the WMD? Facts, please"
> Ask Bill Clinton. He said they were there too. Or ask the UN who as a body
> said that he had them. Or better yet, ask Saddam who ADMITTED to having
> them (OK, not a good source). The whole WMD "argument" is weak at best...
> He had them, you KNOW it. There is proof of it.
>
> Read what Bill Clinton had to say about the matter during his reign of
> terror:...
And of course Lloyd will find some way not to accept that information as
facts (proving what you said in your preceding post).
You'd think that Lloyd, being some kind of teacher of science, would
understand the law of the conservation of mass. It essentially says that
in a closed system, the amount (mass) of matter stays constant. If you
consider the earth a closed system (we can assume that SH didn't rocket
them off into space), then if SH had them a few years ago, then they
still exist (that is, if you subtract out the ones that were used on his
own people) - somewhere on earth. They must either still be in Iraq
(either above or below ground), or in some other country(ies). If they
were destroyed (i.e., converted to a harmless form), then that should be
documentable or provable in some physical way. Conservation of mass.
Summary: In order not to violate the law of the conservation of mass, if
they existed they would have to have been:
(1) Dissipated (by use)
(2) Moved and found (so far no)
(3) Moved and not found found (i.e., well hidden - buried, built into
structures - concrete maybe, or moved to another country)
(4) Shot into space
All that the world demanded was that he show them or account for their
destruction, and he in effect refused. Then the rest of the world
decided that they really didn't mean it.
Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")
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#1733
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Approximately 10/22/03 14:25, Matthew S. Whiting uttered for posterity:
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> In article <FAllb.10282$W16.1400@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
>> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"global warming is as established fact"
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>>Fact? Every "fact" you post will be contradicted by an equally credible
>>>fact from the other (correct) side...
>>
>>
>> No. Look at the scientific literature, look at IPCC, look at NASA, look at
>> NOAA, look at EPA, look at National Academy of Sciences.
>>
>> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
>
> Only one of those is even close to "settled" ... and even gravity hasn't
> been explained, only accepted.
In that case, explain this bumper sticker:
Gravity
It's Not Just a Good Idea
It's the Law
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> In article <FAllb.10282$W16.1400@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
>> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"global warming is as established fact"
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>>Fact? Every "fact" you post will be contradicted by an equally credible
>>>fact from the other (correct) side...
>>
>>
>> No. Look at the scientific literature, look at IPCC, look at NASA, look at
>> NOAA, look at EPA, look at National Academy of Sciences.
>>
>> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
>
> Only one of those is even close to "settled" ... and even gravity hasn't
> been explained, only accepted.
In that case, explain this bumper sticker:
Gravity
It's Not Just a Good Idea
It's the Law
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
#1734
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Approximately 10/22/03 14:25, Matthew S. Whiting uttered for posterity:
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> In article <FAllb.10282$W16.1400@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
>> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"global warming is as established fact"
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>>Fact? Every "fact" you post will be contradicted by an equally credible
>>>fact from the other (correct) side...
>>
>>
>> No. Look at the scientific literature, look at IPCC, look at NASA, look at
>> NOAA, look at EPA, look at National Academy of Sciences.
>>
>> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
>
> Only one of those is even close to "settled" ... and even gravity hasn't
> been explained, only accepted.
In that case, explain this bumper sticker:
Gravity
It's Not Just a Good Idea
It's the Law
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> In article <FAllb.10282$W16.1400@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
>> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"global warming is as established fact"
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>>Fact? Every "fact" you post will be contradicted by an equally credible
>>>fact from the other (correct) side...
>>
>>
>> No. Look at the scientific literature, look at IPCC, look at NASA, look at
>> NOAA, look at EPA, look at National Academy of Sciences.
>>
>> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
>
> Only one of those is even close to "settled" ... and even gravity hasn't
> been explained, only accepted.
In that case, explain this bumper sticker:
Gravity
It's Not Just a Good Idea
It's the Law
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
#1735
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Approximately 10/22/03 14:25, Matthew S. Whiting uttered for posterity:
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> In article <FAllb.10282$W16.1400@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
>> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"global warming is as established fact"
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>>Fact? Every "fact" you post will be contradicted by an equally credible
>>>fact from the other (correct) side...
>>
>>
>> No. Look at the scientific literature, look at IPCC, look at NASA, look at
>> NOAA, look at EPA, look at National Academy of Sciences.
>>
>> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
>
> Only one of those is even close to "settled" ... and even gravity hasn't
> been explained, only accepted.
In that case, explain this bumper sticker:
Gravity
It's Not Just a Good Idea
It's the Law
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
> Lloyd Parker wrote:
>> In article <FAllb.10282$W16.1400@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink .net>,
>> "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"global warming is as established fact"
>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>>Fact? Every "fact" you post will be contradicted by an equally credible
>>>fact from the other (correct) side...
>>
>>
>> No. Look at the scientific literature, look at IPCC, look at NASA, look at
>> NOAA, look at EPA, look at National Academy of Sciences.
>>
>> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
>
> Only one of those is even close to "settled" ... and even gravity hasn't
> been explained, only accepted.
In that case, explain this bumper sticker:
Gravity
It's Not Just a Good Idea
It's the Law
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
#1736
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> ...
> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
Lloyd's trying to bait someone into challenging the "evolution" one -
he's thrown that out twice in less than 24 hours, and no-one's bitten.
And I though he was a master-baiter!
Bill Putney
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#1737
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> ...
> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
Lloyd's trying to bait someone into challenging the "evolution" one -
he's thrown that out twice in less than 24 hours, and no-one's bitten.
And I though he was a master-baiter!
Bill Putney
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address with "x")
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#1738
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Lloyd Parker wrote:
>
> ...
> As I said, it's as settled as atoms, gravity, relativity, evolution, etc.
Lloyd's trying to bait someone into challenging the "evolution" one -
he's thrown that out twice in less than 24 hours, and no-one's bitten.
And I though he was a master-baiter!
Bill Putney
(to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with "x")
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Dori Schmetterling wrote:
>
> Note that it was described as being of "old design, a relative of the Omega
> saloon which disappeared from the price lists earlier this year...coming to
> Britain [as] Vauxhall as a by-product of the decision to launch it in the
Nothing wrong with "old" as long as it's still competitive.
> An additional point is in connection with criticisms elsewhere of designs
> being 'pinched'. The big producers are global and would be foolish not to
> pick designs from all over the place. That said, I am not sure that the US
> companies 'pinch' enough from their overseas affiliates.
GM should pinch just about everything. They actually make some of the best,
most cost-effective products available in their market segments--elsewhere.
--Aardwolf.
#1740
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Dori Schmetterling wrote:
>
> Note that it was described as being of "old design, a relative of the Omega
> saloon which disappeared from the price lists earlier this year...coming to
> Britain [as] Vauxhall as a by-product of the decision to launch it in the
Nothing wrong with "old" as long as it's still competitive.
> An additional point is in connection with criticisms elsewhere of designs
> being 'pinched'. The big producers are global and would be foolish not to
> pick designs from all over the place. That said, I am not sure that the US
> companies 'pinch' enough from their overseas affiliates.
GM should pinch just about everything. They actually make some of the best,
most cost-effective products available in their market segments--elsewhere.
--Aardwolf.