Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Obviously you have a social conscience...
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> I changed to an off road chip in my Jeep to improve the performance.
> It runs much better with the hot chip. I only use the stock chip when
> its time for emissions inspection.
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> I changed to an off road chip in my Jeep to improve the performance.
> It runs much better with the hot chip. I only use the stock chip when
> its time for emissions inspection.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
Obviously you have a social conscience...
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> I changed to an off road chip in my Jeep to improve the performance.
> It runs much better with the hot chip. I only use the stock chip when
> its time for emissions inspection.
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> I changed to an off road chip in my Jeep to improve the performance.
> It runs much better with the hot chip. I only use the stock chip when
> its time for emissions inspection.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
....and they want to win the Traffic Lights Grand Prix.
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> >But I would definitely argue that the majority of SUV owners who live IN
> >THE MAJOR CITIES OF THE COUNTRY are in fact, vanity purchasers.
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> So are the purchasers of performance casrs in such areas, right?
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> >But I would definitely argue that the majority of SUV owners who live IN
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
....and they want to win the Traffic Lights Grand Prix.
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> >But I would definitely argue that the majority of SUV owners who live IN
> >THE MAJOR CITIES OF THE COUNTRY are in fact, vanity purchasers.
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> So are the purchasers of performance casrs in such areas, right?
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> >But I would definitely argue that the majority of SUV owners who live IN
> >THE MAJOR CITIES OF THE COUNTRY are in fact, vanity purchasers.
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> So are the purchasers of performance casrs in such areas, right?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
....and they want to win the Traffic Lights Grand Prix.
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> >But I would definitely argue that the majority of SUV owners who live IN
> >THE MAJOR CITIES OF THE COUNTRY are in fact, vanity purchasers.
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> So are the purchasers of performance casrs in such areas, right?
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> >But I would definitely argue that the majority of SUV owners who live IN
> >THE MAJOR CITIES OF THE COUNTRY are in fact, vanity purchasers.
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> So are the purchasers of performance casrs in such areas, right?
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <3f954b3f$0$19394$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
Dori Schmetterling <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>In what sense?
>
>Performance is surprisingly good and emissions are low and falling.
Heard it before. It's clever not to count the emissions diesels put
out (particulates), but it doesn't fool most people.
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of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
Dori Schmetterling <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>In what sense?
>
>Performance is surprisingly good and emissions are low and falling.
Heard it before. It's clever not to count the emissions diesels put
out (particulates), but it doesn't fool most people.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <3f954b3f$0$19394$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
Dori Schmetterling <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>In what sense?
>
>Performance is surprisingly good and emissions are low and falling.
Heard it before. It's clever not to count the emissions diesels put
out (particulates), but it doesn't fool most people.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
Dori Schmetterling <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>In what sense?
>
>Performance is surprisingly good and emissions are low and falling.
Heard it before. It's clever not to count the emissions diesels put
out (particulates), but it doesn't fool most people.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
In article <3f954b3f$0$19394$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>,
Dori Schmetterling <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>In what sense?
>
>Performance is surprisingly good and emissions are low and falling.
Heard it before. It's clever not to count the emissions diesels put
out (particulates), but it doesn't fool most people.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
Dori Schmetterling <ng@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>In what sense?
>
>Performance is surprisingly good and emissions are low and falling.
Heard it before. It's clever not to count the emissions diesels put
out (particulates), but it doesn't fool most people.
--
Matthew T. Russotto mrussotto@speakeasy.net
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
On Tue, 21 Oct 03 10:41:33 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
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>Your SUV uses more natural resources,
Than what? Your MB?
>increases our dependence on foreign oil,
We don't depend on foreign oil; you should know that.
We have made a choice, for economic reasons, to use oil that is
cheaper to buy than using our own.
Our own oil isn't intrinsically cheaper, but getting iot out of the
ground has been made much more expensive by government fiat.
>forces us to spend more on defending those countries,
Hardly; they can use their own oil profits to defend themselves.
Our problem with them is that they want to govern themselves, and make
their own choices as to what friends they make. That we don't like
their choices shouldn't be used as an excuse for military action.
>forces us to risk lives defending those countries,
Where?
>hurts our balance of payments,
Brought on by government regulations, which in turn are brought on by
those who would rather see other countries use their oil rather than
our own, claiming that "it's for our children."
Tree huggers don't seem to have a problem with "raping" other
countries if it means our children are safe.
>and increases global warming.
That's truly laughable.
What did we do to bring the world out of the last big ice age? BBQ too
many mammoths?
Why do those who claim "global warming" is both unnatural and our
fault completely ignore the past?
>It's laughable that people doing so much to hurt our country drive
>around with American flags on their SUVs.
It's also laughable that so many who don't seem to understand their
own ideals, and the consequences of them, continue to cry that those
who don't believe as they do are trying to hurt the USA.
For you rinformation, SUVs are not the problem so many seem to think
they are. I'll put the emissions from my SUV against your MB anytime.
wrote:
>Your SUV uses more natural resources,
Than what? Your MB?
>increases our dependence on foreign oil,
We don't depend on foreign oil; you should know that.
We have made a choice, for economic reasons, to use oil that is
cheaper to buy than using our own.
Our own oil isn't intrinsically cheaper, but getting iot out of the
ground has been made much more expensive by government fiat.
>forces us to spend more on defending those countries,
Hardly; they can use their own oil profits to defend themselves.
Our problem with them is that they want to govern themselves, and make
their own choices as to what friends they make. That we don't like
their choices shouldn't be used as an excuse for military action.
>forces us to risk lives defending those countries,
Where?
>hurts our balance of payments,
Brought on by government regulations, which in turn are brought on by
those who would rather see other countries use their oil rather than
our own, claiming that "it's for our children."
Tree huggers don't seem to have a problem with "raping" other
countries if it means our children are safe.
>and increases global warming.
That's truly laughable.
What did we do to bring the world out of the last big ice age? BBQ too
many mammoths?
Why do those who claim "global warming" is both unnatural and our
fault completely ignore the past?
>It's laughable that people doing so much to hurt our country drive
>around with American flags on their SUVs.
It's also laughable that so many who don't seem to understand their
own ideals, and the consequences of them, continue to cry that those
who don't believe as they do are trying to hurt the USA.
For you rinformation, SUVs are not the problem so many seem to think
they are. I'll put the emissions from my SUV against your MB anytime.
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Re: Huge study about safety can be misinterpreted by SUV drivers
On Tue, 21 Oct 03 10:41:33 GMT, lparker@NOSPAMemory.edu (Lloyd Parker)
wrote:
>Your SUV uses more natural resources,
Than what? Your MB?
>increases our dependence on foreign oil,
We don't depend on foreign oil; you should know that.
We have made a choice, for economic reasons, to use oil that is
cheaper to buy than using our own.
Our own oil isn't intrinsically cheaper, but getting iot out of the
ground has been made much more expensive by government fiat.
>forces us to spend more on defending those countries,
Hardly; they can use their own oil profits to defend themselves.
Our problem with them is that they want to govern themselves, and make
their own choices as to what friends they make. That we don't like
their choices shouldn't be used as an excuse for military action.
>forces us to risk lives defending those countries,
Where?
>hurts our balance of payments,
Brought on by government regulations, which in turn are brought on by
those who would rather see other countries use their oil rather than
our own, claiming that "it's for our children."
Tree huggers don't seem to have a problem with "raping" other
countries if it means our children are safe.
>and increases global warming.
That's truly laughable.
What did we do to bring the world out of the last big ice age? BBQ too
many mammoths?
Why do those who claim "global warming" is both unnatural and our
fault completely ignore the past?
>It's laughable that people doing so much to hurt our country drive
>around with American flags on their SUVs.
It's also laughable that so many who don't seem to understand their
own ideals, and the consequences of them, continue to cry that those
who don't believe as they do are trying to hurt the USA.
For you rinformation, SUVs are not the problem so many seem to think
they are. I'll put the emissions from my SUV against your MB anytime.
wrote:
>Your SUV uses more natural resources,
Than what? Your MB?
>increases our dependence on foreign oil,
We don't depend on foreign oil; you should know that.
We have made a choice, for economic reasons, to use oil that is
cheaper to buy than using our own.
Our own oil isn't intrinsically cheaper, but getting iot out of the
ground has been made much more expensive by government fiat.
>forces us to spend more on defending those countries,
Hardly; they can use their own oil profits to defend themselves.
Our problem with them is that they want to govern themselves, and make
their own choices as to what friends they make. That we don't like
their choices shouldn't be used as an excuse for military action.
>forces us to risk lives defending those countries,
Where?
>hurts our balance of payments,
Brought on by government regulations, which in turn are brought on by
those who would rather see other countries use their oil rather than
our own, claiming that "it's for our children."
Tree huggers don't seem to have a problem with "raping" other
countries if it means our children are safe.
>and increases global warming.
That's truly laughable.
What did we do to bring the world out of the last big ice age? BBQ too
many mammoths?
Why do those who claim "global warming" is both unnatural and our
fault completely ignore the past?
>It's laughable that people doing so much to hurt our country drive
>around with American flags on their SUVs.
It's also laughable that so many who don't seem to understand their
own ideals, and the consequences of them, continue to cry that those
who don't believe as they do are trying to hurt the USA.
For you rinformation, SUVs are not the problem so many seem to think
they are. I'll put the emissions from my SUV against your MB anytime.