Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

I'm old enough that my first 4-5 cars had that kind of jack as standard
equipment. Big differences though between those jacks and how they were
used and Hi-Lifts and our Jeeps. First of all, those jacks were not the 48"
or 60" monster Hi-Lifts we use... they were maybe 36" at the tallest.
Second, suspensions of our old cars that came with that kind of jack were
fairly stiff and inflexible so jacking a vehicle up by the bumper was no big
deal, since the tire started up off the ground within a few inches of
lifting the bumper up. So those kinds of jacks, even though they were
absolutely unstable even then, were not nearly as unstable in their typical
lifting situations as our Jeeps are on 48" jacks.

And though it's been enough years that you and I might tend to forget these
things, I definitely remember being warned MANY times by my dad, my uncle,
and my dad's cousins of how dangerous those jacks were even back then. So
it's not like the jacks you remember were safe even back then... because I
remember VIVIDLY the safety lectures I got on them when I was a young new
driver in the early sixties. So really, nothing has changed... we're still
warning people about the dangers of this kind of jack today, JUST LIKE we
did with the smaller jacks that came standard in our cars many years ago.

And if I forgot to mention this... the factory hydraulic jack works just
fine for 33" tires. Heck, it works just fine with my 35" tires and I know
for a fact that it works with 37" tires, I've seen the factory jack change
37" tires on the trail at least a few times.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
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http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iZ6hb.1047$3A6.898@twister.austin.rr.com...
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> > Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> > tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> > comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> > up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> > just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
>
> For some reason, there seems to be quite a few people around here that
> believe that the Hi Lift jacks are unacceptable from a danger standpoint
for
> use in changing a tire... The cars that I grew up with all had jacks
similar
> to the Hi Lift type and although you probably had to be a little more
> careful with them, it wasn't a big deal to change a flat with them... Of
> course, back then, the only other choices were the 'bottle' hydraulic
jacks
> and the rolling hydraulic floor jacks... The 'bottle' jacks were too slow
to
> raise the vehicle and the rolling floor jacks were so large that they were
> only for garage use... I've changed *a lot* of tires with the Hi Lift type
> jack since back in those days, I was so cheap (back in the 'poor student
> days') that I didn't get a new tire until the previous one had
> catastrophically gone flat... The main things that you need to remember
are
> that you should be very careful that the jack is lifting straight up such
> that there won't be a tendency for it to slide sidewards and you should
> chock your wheels and use jack stands so that the weight is supported by
the
> jack for the least amount of time...
>
>

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

I'm old enough that my first 4-5 cars had that kind of jack as standard
equipment. Big differences though between those jacks and how they were
used and Hi-Lifts and our Jeeps. First of all, those jacks were not the 48"
or 60" monster Hi-Lifts we use... they were maybe 36" at the tallest.
Second, suspensions of our old cars that came with that kind of jack were
fairly stiff and inflexible so jacking a vehicle up by the bumper was no big
deal, since the tire started up off the ground within a few inches of
lifting the bumper up. So those kinds of jacks, even though they were
absolutely unstable even then, were not nearly as unstable in their typical
lifting situations as our Jeeps are on 48" jacks.

And though it's been enough years that you and I might tend to forget these
things, I definitely remember being warned MANY times by my dad, my uncle,
and my dad's cousins of how dangerous those jacks were even back then. So
it's not like the jacks you remember were safe even back then... because I
remember VIVIDLY the safety lectures I got on them when I was a young new
driver in the early sixties. So really, nothing has changed... we're still
warning people about the dangers of this kind of jack today, JUST LIKE we
did with the smaller jacks that came standard in our cars many years ago.

And if I forgot to mention this... the factory hydraulic jack works just
fine for 33" tires. Heck, it works just fine with my 35" tires and I know
for a fact that it works with 37" tires, I've seen the factory jack change
37" tires on the trail at least a few times.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iZ6hb.1047$3A6.898@twister.austin.rr.com...
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> > Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> > tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> > comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> > up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> > just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
>
> For some reason, there seems to be quite a few people around here that
> believe that the Hi Lift jacks are unacceptable from a danger standpoint
for
> use in changing a tire... The cars that I grew up with all had jacks
similar
> to the Hi Lift type and although you probably had to be a little more
> careful with them, it wasn't a big deal to change a flat with them... Of
> course, back then, the only other choices were the 'bottle' hydraulic
jacks
> and the rolling hydraulic floor jacks... The 'bottle' jacks were too slow
to
> raise the vehicle and the rolling floor jacks were so large that they were
> only for garage use... I've changed *a lot* of tires with the Hi Lift type
> jack since back in those days, I was so cheap (back in the 'poor student
> days') that I didn't get a new tire until the previous one had
> catastrophically gone flat... The main things that you need to remember
are
> that you should be very careful that the jack is lifting straight up such
> that there won't be a tendency for it to slide sidewards and you should
> chock your wheels and use jack stands so that the weight is supported by
the
> jack for the least amount of time...
>
>

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

I'm old enough that my first 4-5 cars had that kind of jack as standard
equipment. Big differences though between those jacks and how they were
used and Hi-Lifts and our Jeeps. First of all, those jacks were not the 48"
or 60" monster Hi-Lifts we use... they were maybe 36" at the tallest.
Second, suspensions of our old cars that came with that kind of jack were
fairly stiff and inflexible so jacking a vehicle up by the bumper was no big
deal, since the tire started up off the ground within a few inches of
lifting the bumper up. So those kinds of jacks, even though they were
absolutely unstable even then, were not nearly as unstable in their typical
lifting situations as our Jeeps are on 48" jacks.

And though it's been enough years that you and I might tend to forget these
things, I definitely remember being warned MANY times by my dad, my uncle,
and my dad's cousins of how dangerous those jacks were even back then. So
it's not like the jacks you remember were safe even back then... because I
remember VIVIDLY the safety lectures I got on them when I was a young new
driver in the early sixties. So really, nothing has changed... we're still
warning people about the dangers of this kind of jack today, JUST LIKE we
did with the smaller jacks that came standard in our cars many years ago.

And if I forgot to mention this... the factory hydraulic jack works just
fine for 33" tires. Heck, it works just fine with my 35" tires and I know
for a fact that it works with 37" tires, I've seen the factory jack change
37" tires on the trail at least a few times.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:iZ6hb.1047$3A6.898@twister.austin.rr.com...
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> > Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> > tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> > comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> > up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> > just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
>
> For some reason, there seems to be quite a few people around here that
> believe that the Hi Lift jacks are unacceptable from a danger standpoint
for
> use in changing a tire... The cars that I grew up with all had jacks
similar
> to the Hi Lift type and although you probably had to be a little more
> careful with them, it wasn't a big deal to change a flat with them... Of
> course, back then, the only other choices were the 'bottle' hydraulic
jacks
> and the rolling hydraulic floor jacks... The 'bottle' jacks were too slow
to
> raise the vehicle and the rolling floor jacks were so large that they were
> only for garage use... I've changed *a lot* of tires with the Hi Lift type
> jack since back in those days, I was so cheap (back in the 'poor student
> days') that I didn't get a new tire until the previous one had
> catastrophically gone flat... The main things that you need to remember
are
> that you should be very careful that the jack is lifting straight up such
> that there won't be a tendency for it to slide sidewards and you should
> chock your wheels and use jack stands so that the weight is supported by
the
> jack for the least amount of time...
>
>

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

"Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
> First of all, those jacks were not the 48" or 60" monster Hi-Lifts we use

I haven't used a 60" Hi-Lift, but I've used a 48" one to change a flat on a
3/4 ton pickup... It didn't seem that much different than the ones that we
used back on the old cars...

> And though it's been enough years that you and I might tend to forget
these
> things, I definitely remember being warned MANY times by my dad, my uncle,
> and my dad's cousins of how dangerous those jacks were even back then. So
> it's not like the jacks you remember were safe even back then... because I
> remember VIVIDLY the safety lectures I got on them when I was a young new
> driver in the early sixties. So really, nothing has changed... we're
still
> warning people about the dangers of this kind of jack today, JUST LIKE we
> did with the smaller jacks that came standard in our cars many years ago.

I'm not saying that the Hi-Lift type jacks are *safe*... In fact, probably
no type of jack is truly *safe*, but the risks can be understood and
mitigated... It's like when the battery is dead on my plane -- I'll chock
the wheels and hand-prop it instead of spending the time charging the
battery or the inconvenience of jump starting it... If you know how to do it
and are aware of the dangers, you can minimize them...

> And if I forgot to mention this... the factory hydraulic jack works just
> fine for 33" tires.

Factory hydraulic jack? I don't think that I've seen a hydraulic jack from
the factory on any vehicles... Or at least none of the vehicles that I've
ever had to change flats on... The two main designs that I've seen are the
scissor type with a pole that you crank in order to turn a screw that
expands the scissor mechanism and one that looks like a bottle jack, but is
instead has a gear mechanism that you crank with a pole to raise and lower
the jack... I suspect that they do this in order to save weight and because
they are cheaper (probably more the latter)...

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

"Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
> First of all, those jacks were not the 48" or 60" monster Hi-Lifts we use

I haven't used a 60" Hi-Lift, but I've used a 48" one to change a flat on a
3/4 ton pickup... It didn't seem that much different than the ones that we
used back on the old cars...

> And though it's been enough years that you and I might tend to forget
these
> things, I definitely remember being warned MANY times by my dad, my uncle,
> and my dad's cousins of how dangerous those jacks were even back then. So
> it's not like the jacks you remember were safe even back then... because I
> remember VIVIDLY the safety lectures I got on them when I was a young new
> driver in the early sixties. So really, nothing has changed... we're
still
> warning people about the dangers of this kind of jack today, JUST LIKE we
> did with the smaller jacks that came standard in our cars many years ago.

I'm not saying that the Hi-Lift type jacks are *safe*... In fact, probably
no type of jack is truly *safe*, but the risks can be understood and
mitigated... It's like when the battery is dead on my plane -- I'll chock
the wheels and hand-prop it instead of spending the time charging the
battery or the inconvenience of jump starting it... If you know how to do it
and are aware of the dangers, you can minimize them...

> And if I forgot to mention this... the factory hydraulic jack works just
> fine for 33" tires.

Factory hydraulic jack? I don't think that I've seen a hydraulic jack from
the factory on any vehicles... Or at least none of the vehicles that I've
ever had to change flats on... The two main designs that I've seen are the
scissor type with a pole that you crank in order to turn a screw that
expands the scissor mechanism and one that looks like a bottle jack, but is
instead has a gear mechanism that you crank with a pole to raise and lower
the jack... I suspect that they do this in order to save weight and because
they are cheaper (probably more the latter)...

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

"Jerry Bransford" wrote ...
> First of all, those jacks were not the 48" or 60" monster Hi-Lifts we use

I haven't used a 60" Hi-Lift, but I've used a 48" one to change a flat on a
3/4 ton pickup... It didn't seem that much different than the ones that we
used back on the old cars...

> And though it's been enough years that you and I might tend to forget
these
> things, I definitely remember being warned MANY times by my dad, my uncle,
> and my dad's cousins of how dangerous those jacks were even back then. So
> it's not like the jacks you remember were safe even back then... because I
> remember VIVIDLY the safety lectures I got on them when I was a young new
> driver in the early sixties. So really, nothing has changed... we're
still
> warning people about the dangers of this kind of jack today, JUST LIKE we
> did with the smaller jacks that came standard in our cars many years ago.

I'm not saying that the Hi-Lift type jacks are *safe*... In fact, probably
no type of jack is truly *safe*, but the risks can be understood and
mitigated... It's like when the battery is dead on my plane -- I'll chock
the wheels and hand-prop it instead of spending the time charging the
battery or the inconvenience of jump starting it... If you know how to do it
and are aware of the dangers, you can minimize them...

> And if I forgot to mention this... the factory hydraulic jack works just
> fine for 33" tires.

Factory hydraulic jack? I don't think that I've seen a hydraulic jack from
the factory on any vehicles... Or at least none of the vehicles that I've
ever had to change flats on... The two main designs that I've seen are the
scissor type with a pole that you crank in order to turn a screw that
expands the scissor mechanism and one that looks like a bottle jack, but is
instead has a gear mechanism that you crank with a pole to raise and lower
the jack... I suspect that they do this in order to save weight and because
they are cheaper (probably more the latter)...

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

I have a Hi Lift mounted on a Durango rear bumper and tire carrier. I've
many times thought I'd stop carrying it, only to decide "yeah, and the next
outing will be the time you need it!" Kinda like the winch that gets used
just a few times per year.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:bu6hb.49323$gv5.1286@fed1read05...
> David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else
will
> work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
> floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that
unstable
> and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> > Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> > tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> > comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> > up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> > just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
> >
> > Dave
> > http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:57 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
> >
> > >I used my Hi Lift exactly ONCE to lift the YJ, during which it decide
to
> > >take a dramatic jump to the right, almost through the garage
> wall....never
> > >again. It is indeed great for nearly everything you can imagine besides
> > >raising the Jeep. FWIW, I kept the old stock scissor jack under the
hood
> and
> > >it's still got enough travel to lift the wheels off the ground if
placed
> > >under the spring plates.
> > >
> > >"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > >news:SOKdnROqbLdThhmiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> > >> That's true as far as it goes. However, it's also one of the most
> useful
> > >> tools you can carry with you off road. It can be used as a winch, a
> jack,
> > >a
> > >> clamp, a jaws of life, a tie rod straightener, a tire bead breaker...
> Just
> > >> don't use it as a jack in the garage when you're working on your
> vehicle.
> > >> Use a floor jack and jack stands.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jim
> > >> --
> > >> 98 TJ SE
> > >> 90 SJ GW
> > >> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> news:3F8418B5.BDAD74C@sympatico.ca...
> > >> > A high lift jack is good for raising a barn to beef up the footing
or
> > >> > something like that.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no safe way to use one on a Jeep.
> > >> >
> > >> > I carry a small hydraulic floor jack that fits perfectly behind the
> > >> > passenger seat and use the spring plates as jacking points.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> >
> > >> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Is a high lift jack a good jack for the garage or simply meant to
> be
> > >> used in
> > >> > > the dirt? If not what type of jack works the best?
> > >> > > And where are good jacking points for a CJ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

I have a Hi Lift mounted on a Durango rear bumper and tire carrier. I've
many times thought I'd stop carrying it, only to decide "yeah, and the next
outing will be the time you need it!" Kinda like the winch that gets used
just a few times per year.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:bu6hb.49323$gv5.1286@fed1read05...
> David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else
will
> work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
> floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that
unstable
> and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> > Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> > tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> > comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> > up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> > just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
> >
> > Dave
> > http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:57 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
> >
> > >I used my Hi Lift exactly ONCE to lift the YJ, during which it decide
to
> > >take a dramatic jump to the right, almost through the garage
> wall....never
> > >again. It is indeed great for nearly everything you can imagine besides
> > >raising the Jeep. FWIW, I kept the old stock scissor jack under the
hood
> and
> > >it's still got enough travel to lift the wheels off the ground if
placed
> > >under the spring plates.
> > >
> > >"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > >news:SOKdnROqbLdThhmiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> > >> That's true as far as it goes. However, it's also one of the most
> useful
> > >> tools you can carry with you off road. It can be used as a winch, a
> jack,
> > >a
> > >> clamp, a jaws of life, a tie rod straightener, a tire bead breaker...
> Just
> > >> don't use it as a jack in the garage when you're working on your
> vehicle.
> > >> Use a floor jack and jack stands.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jim
> > >> --
> > >> 98 TJ SE
> > >> 90 SJ GW
> > >> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> news:3F8418B5.BDAD74C@sympatico.ca...
> > >> > A high lift jack is good for raising a barn to beef up the footing
or
> > >> > something like that.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no safe way to use one on a Jeep.
> > >> >
> > >> > I carry a small hydraulic floor jack that fits perfectly behind the
> > >> > passenger seat and use the spring plates as jacking points.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> >
> > >> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Is a high lift jack a good jack for the garage or simply meant to
> be
> > >> used in
> > >> > > the dirt? If not what type of jack works the best?
> > >> > > And where are good jacking points for a CJ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

I have a Hi Lift mounted on a Durango rear bumper and tire carrier. I've
many times thought I'd stop carrying it, only to decide "yeah, and the next
outing will be the time you need it!" Kinda like the winch that gets used
just a few times per year.


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:bu6hb.49323$gv5.1286@fed1read05...
> David, my Hi-Lift only gets used in a dire emergency when nothing else
will
> work. Not only that, I can (and do) rotate all five of my tires using a
> floor jack and four floor stands much faster than you can with that
unstable
> and unsafe Hi-Lift. ;)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:f8r9ovcqqrv9gj71eb1ch9ehj1eot2l4np@4ax.com...
> > Hmmmm I have used my Hi Lift all the time to lift my TJ to rotate the
> > tires at least 10 times.... no problems. Granted, I'd be more
> > comfortable with an alternate solution, and will probably try to come
> > up with a way to use my standard hydraulic type jack this next time,
> > just because I don't like putting the stress on my Tomken rocker bars.
> >
> > Dave
> > http://home1.gte.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
> >
> > On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:19:57 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge"
> > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote:
> >
> > >I used my Hi Lift exactly ONCE to lift the YJ, during which it decide
to
> > >take a dramatic jump to the right, almost through the garage
> wall....never
> > >again. It is indeed great for nearly everything you can imagine besides
> > >raising the Jeep. FWIW, I kept the old stock scissor jack under the
hood
> and
> > >it's still got enough travel to lift the wheels off the ground if
placed
> > >under the spring plates.
> > >
> > >"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > >news:SOKdnROqbLdThhmiU-KYgw@comcast.com...
> > >> That's true as far as it goes. However, it's also one of the most
> useful
> > >> tools you can carry with you off road. It can be used as a winch, a
> jack,
> > >a
> > >> clamp, a jaws of life, a tie rod straightener, a tire bead breaker...
> Just
> > >> don't use it as a jack in the garage when you're working on your
> vehicle.
> > >> Use a floor jack and jack stands.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jim
> > >> --
> > >> 98 TJ SE
> > >> 90 SJ GW
> > >> http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >> news:3F8418B5.BDAD74C@sympatico.ca...
> > >> > A high lift jack is good for raising a barn to beef up the footing
or
> > >> > something like that.
> > >> >
> > >> > There is no safe way to use one on a Jeep.
> > >> >
> > >> > I carry a small hydraulic floor jack that fits perfectly behind the
> > >> > passenger seat and use the spring plates as jacking points.
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> >
> > >> > ABanks5@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Is a high lift jack a good jack for the garage or simply meant to
> be
> > >> used in
> > >> > > the dirt? If not what type of jack works the best?
> > >> > > And where are good jacking points for a CJ?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>

Re: How to jack up a Jeep with 33s
 

The bumper jack is probably the biggest reason all cars today have
radius fender wells, rather than the aerodynamic designs of the past:
http://pages.prodigy.net/mopar-man/_...n-53Hornet.jpg
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Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> For some reason, there seems to be quite a few people around here that
> believe that the Hi Lift jacks are unacceptable from a danger standpoint for
> use in changing a tire... The cars that I grew up with all had jacks similar
> to the Hi Lift type and although you probably had to be a little more
> careful with them, it wasn't a big deal to change a flat with them... Of
> course, back then, the only other choices were the 'bottle' hydraulic jacks
> and the rolling hydraulic floor jacks... The 'bottle' jacks were too slow to
> raise the vehicle and the rolling floor jacks were so large that they were
> only for garage use... I've changed *a lot* of tires with the Hi Lift type
> jack since back in those days, I was so cheap (back in the 'poor student
> days') that I didn't get a new tire until the previous one had
> catastrophically gone flat... The main things that you need to remember are
> that you should be very careful that the jack is lifting straight up such
> that there won't be a tendency for it to slide sidewards and you should
> chock your wheels and use jack stands so that the weight is supported by the
> jack for the least amount of time...