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Nathan W. Collier 09-11-2003 03:25 PM

Re: hitch basket
 
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:5Q38b.418674$Ho3.66158@sccrnsc03...
> I think it was Budget that offered something like a
> $300 or $400 difference on a rental of truck and tow
> trailer for simply changing dates of the move and
> using their website for the reservation. It was either
> them or Penske, and both look cheaper than paying
> the higher mileage for a round trip on Ryder.....


cool, thanks for the tips. its a bit premature, i dunno how hard its going
to be to get financing in an area where we dont even live yet. my wife has
excellent credit and i have good credit, but we would obviously be starting
new jobs if we move 2500 miles and im unsure how much of an impact that will
have on our ability to finanace another home while we still have this one
finanaced. regardless, if i cant get it done before the snow falls ill be
force to wait until next spring. im not moving during winter snowstorms in
the dakotas.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com




Nathan W. Collier 09-11-2003 03:28 PM

Re: hitch basket
 
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20030911151641.17796.00000765@mb-m01.aol.com...
> I might suggest to help with
> weight, make it two-piece where the sides come off as a unit, so you have

two
> lighter pieces instead of one heavy piece.


cool idea, thanks.

> Let me know when you start designing TJ bumpers...


im already designing them, at least on paper. ill post pictures when ive
actually built the final design, but will contact you privately when theyre
eventually ready to be sold.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com




Nathan W. Collier 09-11-2003 03:28 PM

Re: hitch basket
 
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20030911151641.17796.00000765@mb-m01.aol.com...
> I might suggest to help with
> weight, make it two-piece where the sides come off as a unit, so you have

two
> lighter pieces instead of one heavy piece.


cool idea, thanks.

> Let me know when you start designing TJ bumpers...


im already designing them, at least on paper. ill post pictures when ive
actually built the final design, but will contact you privately when theyre
eventually ready to be sold.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com




Jeff Strickland 09-11-2003 03:47 PM

Re: hitch basket
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:9%38b.28282$rb3.1266523@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5Q38b.418674$Ho3.66158@sccrnsc03...
> > I think it was Budget that offered something like a
> > $300 or $400 difference on a rental of truck and tow
> > trailer for simply changing dates of the move and
> > using their website for the reservation. It was either
> > them or Penske, and both look cheaper than paying
> > the higher mileage for a round trip on Ryder.....

>
> cool, thanks for the tips. its a bit premature, i dunno how hard its

going
> to be to get financing in an area where we dont even live yet. my wife

has
> excellent credit and i have good credit, but we would obviously be

starting
> new jobs if we move 2500 miles and im unsure how much of an impact that

will
> have on our ability to finanace another home while we still have this one
> finanaced. regardless, if i cant get it done before the snow falls ill be
> force to wait until next spring. im not moving during winter snowstorms

in
> the dakotas.
>
>


What the lender is going to look at is income and debt. If you have an
income level that can support your debt load, then you will be fine with the
lenders, regardless of your current job situation. That is not entirely
true, I suppose. I assume you are keeping the same type of job, just moving
to a new location. If this is true, then the lenders won't care. If you are
moving AND taking entirely new jobs, thent he job history will become an
important part of the discussion. From wht you have previously told us, you
will have new jobs in the same industry that your jobs are now, so your move
should be fine. Basically, a lender will want to know that you made money
once doing this kind of work, they will assume that you will continue to
make money doing the same work in a new place. They do not assume you will
make money doing something new in the same place, much less doing something
new in a new place.

Also, if you keep you current home and put renters in it, the lenders will
only accept 75% of the rental income against the current mortgage and
related expenses. So, if you collect 1000 per month in rent (12,000 per
year), then your mortgage and related expenses that are allowable is only
9000, and actual expense over that amount is included in your debt ratio.

While you look at having an expense (mortgage, taxes, etc.) of 9500 and
gross income of 12,000, leaving a net income (or positive cash flow) of 2500
per year, the bank says you have 500 of expenses that must be included in
your debt ratio.



Jeff Strickland 09-11-2003 03:47 PM

Re: hitch basket
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:9%38b.28282$rb3.1266523@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5Q38b.418674$Ho3.66158@sccrnsc03...
> > I think it was Budget that offered something like a
> > $300 or $400 difference on a rental of truck and tow
> > trailer for simply changing dates of the move and
> > using their website for the reservation. It was either
> > them or Penske, and both look cheaper than paying
> > the higher mileage for a round trip on Ryder.....

>
> cool, thanks for the tips. its a bit premature, i dunno how hard its

going
> to be to get financing in an area where we dont even live yet. my wife

has
> excellent credit and i have good credit, but we would obviously be

starting
> new jobs if we move 2500 miles and im unsure how much of an impact that

will
> have on our ability to finanace another home while we still have this one
> finanaced. regardless, if i cant get it done before the snow falls ill be
> force to wait until next spring. im not moving during winter snowstorms

in
> the dakotas.
>
>


What the lender is going to look at is income and debt. If you have an
income level that can support your debt load, then you will be fine with the
lenders, regardless of your current job situation. That is not entirely
true, I suppose. I assume you are keeping the same type of job, just moving
to a new location. If this is true, then the lenders won't care. If you are
moving AND taking entirely new jobs, thent he job history will become an
important part of the discussion. From wht you have previously told us, you
will have new jobs in the same industry that your jobs are now, so your move
should be fine. Basically, a lender will want to know that you made money
once doing this kind of work, they will assume that you will continue to
make money doing the same work in a new place. They do not assume you will
make money doing something new in the same place, much less doing something
new in a new place.

Also, if you keep you current home and put renters in it, the lenders will
only accept 75% of the rental income against the current mortgage and
related expenses. So, if you collect 1000 per month in rent (12,000 per
year), then your mortgage and related expenses that are allowable is only
9000, and actual expense over that amount is included in your debt ratio.

While you look at having an expense (mortgage, taxes, etc.) of 9500 and
gross income of 12,000, leaving a net income (or positive cash flow) of 2500
per year, the bank says you have 500 of expenses that must be included in
your debt ratio.



Nathan W. Collier 09-11-2003 04:11 PM

Re: hitch basket
 
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vm1kbplb57lqc5@corp.supernews.com...
> I assume you are keeping the same type of job, just moving
> to a new location. If this is true, then the lenders won't care.


ill be welding for myself, the wifey will be nursing. same ole, just a
different location. what concerned me was the time on the job. if shes
starting at a new hospitol and im starting a new shop we wont have any time
on the job yet and i dont know what impact that will have. since theyre
currently having to bring in nurses from the philippines in order to fill
the needed positions, im hoping the area will be favorable to us.

> Also, if you keep you current home and put renters in it


i wouldnt even entertain renting when i would be 2500 miles away and unable
to handle problems first hand. id rather make two mortgages.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com






Nathan W. Collier 09-11-2003 04:11 PM

Re: hitch basket
 
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vm1kbplb57lqc5@corp.supernews.com...
> I assume you are keeping the same type of job, just moving
> to a new location. If this is true, then the lenders won't care.


ill be welding for myself, the wifey will be nursing. same ole, just a
different location. what concerned me was the time on the job. if shes
starting at a new hospitol and im starting a new shop we wont have any time
on the job yet and i dont know what impact that will have. since theyre
currently having to bring in nurses from the philippines in order to fill
the needed positions, im hoping the area will be favorable to us.

> Also, if you keep you current home and put renters in it


i wouldnt even entertain renting when i would be 2500 miles away and unable
to handle problems first hand. id rather make two mortgages.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com






Jeff Strickland 09-11-2003 05:47 PM

Re: hitch basket
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:YF48b.24615$AU.1196293@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vm1kbplb57lqc5@corp.supernews.com...
> > I assume you are keeping the same type of job, just moving
> > to a new location. If this is true, then the lenders won't care.

>
> ill be welding for myself, the wifey will be nursing. same ole, just a
> different location. what concerned me was the time on the job. if shes
> starting at a new hospitol and im starting a new shop we wont have any

time
> on the job yet and i dont know what impact that will have. since theyre
> currently having to bring in nurses from the philippines in order to fill
> the needed positions, im hoping the area will be favorable to us.
>


Time on Job is not so important as long as it is the same kind of job. They
will want 30 days of pay stubs on the Mrs. to show that she is actually
employed, but if you are self employed, then you can give 2 yrs of taxes and
a letter from your accountant that says he has been doing your taxes and
that you are self employed.


> > Also, if you keep you current home and put renters in it

>
> i wouldnt even entertain renting when i would be 2500 miles away and

unable
> to handle problems first hand. id rather make two mortgages.
>
>


Would you be making two morgage payments for a long time, or just until you
found a buyer?

Frankly, you could get a property manager and write the cost off as an
expense against the property. Remember that imaginary 9500 annual cost of
mortgage and taxes that you pay from the imaginary 12000 in rent? The
property manager will generally collect the rent for a percentage, and call
the plumber in to fix a leaky pipe. You simply adjust the rent to cover the
management fees. All you need to do is make sure the rent is not more than
the market will bear, or the house will sit empty.

Before you scrap the idea of renters, ask yourself what the property values
have been doing over the past 20+ years. Odds are that they have been
rising, and the odds are that they will continue rising for the next 20+
years. If you can collect rent that covers the mortgage payment and
management fees, then you have property appreciation that costs you nothing
but property taxes. If the taxes are a thousand dollars a year, and the
appreciation is 10,000 per year, then you are making 9000 per year on paper,
and you take the money in 10 or 20 years, and walk away from the deal with
200,000 dollars. You paid 20,000 in taxes over the term, so you net 180,000,
all using other people's money. This seems like a plan worth further
consideration, if you ask me.

I would be happy to take this offline and discuss the actual numbers with
you. Email me at jstrickland at ez2 dot net.

I won't know what the management fees are in your area, nor what the rent
schedules look like, but if I knew more about your particular loan, I could
help you with stuff that the lenders will want to be comfortable with.




Jeff Strickland 09-11-2003 05:47 PM

Re: hitch basket
 

"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepTalk@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:YF48b.24615$AU.1196293@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vm1kbplb57lqc5@corp.supernews.com...
> > I assume you are keeping the same type of job, just moving
> > to a new location. If this is true, then the lenders won't care.

>
> ill be welding for myself, the wifey will be nursing. same ole, just a
> different location. what concerned me was the time on the job. if shes
> starting at a new hospitol and im starting a new shop we wont have any

time
> on the job yet and i dont know what impact that will have. since theyre
> currently having to bring in nurses from the philippines in order to fill
> the needed positions, im hoping the area will be favorable to us.
>


Time on Job is not so important as long as it is the same kind of job. They
will want 30 days of pay stubs on the Mrs. to show that she is actually
employed, but if you are self employed, then you can give 2 yrs of taxes and
a letter from your accountant that says he has been doing your taxes and
that you are self employed.


> > Also, if you keep you current home and put renters in it

>
> i wouldnt even entertain renting when i would be 2500 miles away and

unable
> to handle problems first hand. id rather make two mortgages.
>
>


Would you be making two morgage payments for a long time, or just until you
found a buyer?

Frankly, you could get a property manager and write the cost off as an
expense against the property. Remember that imaginary 9500 annual cost of
mortgage and taxes that you pay from the imaginary 12000 in rent? The
property manager will generally collect the rent for a percentage, and call
the plumber in to fix a leaky pipe. You simply adjust the rent to cover the
management fees. All you need to do is make sure the rent is not more than
the market will bear, or the house will sit empty.

Before you scrap the idea of renters, ask yourself what the property values
have been doing over the past 20+ years. Odds are that they have been
rising, and the odds are that they will continue rising for the next 20+
years. If you can collect rent that covers the mortgage payment and
management fees, then you have property appreciation that costs you nothing
but property taxes. If the taxes are a thousand dollars a year, and the
appreciation is 10,000 per year, then you are making 9000 per year on paper,
and you take the money in 10 or 20 years, and walk away from the deal with
200,000 dollars. You paid 20,000 in taxes over the term, so you net 180,000,
all using other people's money. This seems like a plan worth further
consideration, if you ask me.

I would be happy to take this offline and discuss the actual numbers with
you. Email me at jstrickland at ez2 dot net.

I won't know what the management fees are in your area, nor what the rent
schedules look like, but if I knew more about your particular loan, I could
help you with stuff that the lenders will want to be comfortable with.




DougW 09-11-2003 06:13 PM

Re: hitch basket
 
TJim wrote:
> I'd keep the steel keel, though. I don't think an aluminum keel would hold
> up under the stresses of driving.


Depends on the aluminum. The only problem with steel keel (hey that rhyms)
and aluminum other is galvanic corrosion. Of course you could use stainless
hardware and rubber bushings to keep them separate.




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