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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 07:50 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
On 06 Jan 2004 02:17 PM, L.W.(?ill) ------ III posted the following:
> It was called Sure Track, a part of the tow package, we didn't
> want it then either: http://www.----------.com/sureTrack.jpg


That image is meaningless without any supporting information, or even
the rest of the page with info on what vehicle it is for. About all
that can be said for it is at least it is in english.

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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 07:58 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
On 06 Jan 2004 12:44 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> Tim, your part-time 4x4 system didn't bind on the highway covered "in
> 3-4" of fresh unplowed snow" because it won't bind if you're on a road
> totally covered in snow, the tires can slip against the slippery snow
> and relieve the binding between the f/r axles before it builds up too
> much. L0nD0t.$t0we11 was right on saying a part-time 4x4 system should
> never be used "on a highway unless it is extremely slippery"... and
> the totally snow-covered highway you were on certainly qualifies as
> one.


The road surface doesn't need to be "extremely" slippery to use part
time 4wd. Somewhat slippery will work just fine. There is a lot of
apparently bare pavement around here (Anchorage AK) right now but
leaving it in 4wd is still the best policy. The surface is just too
unpredicable right now to chance shifting into 2wd in most locations.

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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 07:58 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
On 06 Jan 2004 12:44 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> Tim, your part-time 4x4 system didn't bind on the highway covered "in
> 3-4" of fresh unplowed snow" because it won't bind if you're on a road
> totally covered in snow, the tires can slip against the slippery snow
> and relieve the binding between the f/r axles before it builds up too
> much. L0nD0t.$t0we11 was right on saying a part-time 4x4 system should
> never be used "on a highway unless it is extremely slippery"... and
> the totally snow-covered highway you were on certainly qualifies as
> one.


The road surface doesn't need to be "extremely" slippery to use part
time 4wd. Somewhat slippery will work just fine. There is a lot of
apparently bare pavement around here (Anchorage AK) right now but
leaving it in 4wd is still the best policy. The surface is just too
unpredicable right now to chance shifting into 2wd in most locations.

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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 07:58 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
On 06 Jan 2004 12:44 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
> Tim, your part-time 4x4 system didn't bind on the highway covered "in
> 3-4" of fresh unplowed snow" because it won't bind if you're on a road
> totally covered in snow, the tires can slip against the slippery snow
> and relieve the binding between the f/r axles before it builds up too
> much. L0nD0t.$t0we11 was right on saying a part-time 4x4 system should
> never be used "on a highway unless it is extremely slippery"... and
> the totally snow-covered highway you were on certainly qualifies as
> one.


The road surface doesn't need to be "extremely" slippery to use part
time 4wd. Somewhat slippery will work just fine. There is a lot of
apparently bare pavement around here (Anchorage AK) right now but
leaving it in 4wd is still the best policy. The surface is just too
unpredicable right now to chance shifting into 2wd in most locations.

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Barry Bean 01-06-2004 09:13 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:

> You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
> dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.


Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.

Barry Bean 01-06-2004 09:13 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:

> You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
> dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.


Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.

Barry Bean 01-06-2004 09:13 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:

> You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
> dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.


Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 09:31 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
You need to buy a motor manual from the sixties, like for your
CJ-5.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> That image is meaningless without any supporting information, or even
> the rest of the page with info on what vehicle it is for. About all
> that can be said for it is at least it is in english.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 09:31 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
You need to buy a motor manual from the sixties, like for your
CJ-5.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> That image is meaningless without any supporting information, or even
> the rest of the page with info on what vehicle it is for. About all
> that can be said for it is at least it is in english.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 09:31 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
You need to buy a motor manual from the sixties, like for your
CJ-5.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> That image is meaningless without any supporting information, or even
> the rest of the page with info on what vehicle it is for. About all
> that can be said for it is at least it is in english.


CRWLR 01-06-2004 09:47 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9468CDBF8463Aeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
> > dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.

>
> Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.



Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


CRWLR 01-06-2004 09:47 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9468CDBF8463Aeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
> > dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.

>
> Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.



Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


CRWLR 01-06-2004 09:47 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 

"Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9468CDBF8463Aeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
> > dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.

>
> Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.



Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


mabar 01-06-2004 09:59 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Yes they do. Although not electronic ABS, the proportioning valve acts as a
primitive rear antilock brake system. Plain and simple, the rear wheels will
NOT lock up, no matter how hard you mash the brake pedal.

Tom

"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040106122303346-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 06 Jan 2004 11:40 AM, Mike Romain posted the following:
>
> > Jeeps especially
> > have rear anti lock brakes, have since the 70's.

>
> Not.
>
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mabar 01-06-2004 09:59 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Yes they do. Although not electronic ABS, the proportioning valve acts as a
primitive rear antilock brake system. Plain and simple, the rear wheels will
NOT lock up, no matter how hard you mash the brake pedal.

Tom

"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040106122303346-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 06 Jan 2004 11:40 AM, Mike Romain posted the following:
>
> > Jeeps especially
> > have rear anti lock brakes, have since the 70's.

>
> Not.
>
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mabar 01-06-2004 09:59 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Yes they do. Although not electronic ABS, the proportioning valve acts as a
primitive rear antilock brake system. Plain and simple, the rear wheels will
NOT lock up, no matter how hard you mash the brake pedal.

Tom

"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040106122303346-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 06 Jan 2004 11:40 AM, Mike Romain posted the following:
>
> > Jeeps especially
> > have rear anti lock brakes, have since the 70's.

>
> Not.
>
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Barry Bean 01-06-2004 10:00 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vvmss1j42imvdd@corp.supernews.com:

>
> "Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9468CDBF8463Aeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>> > You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
>> > dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.

>>
>> Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.

>
> Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


That's what happens when you type while talking to someone about something
else.

Barry Bean 01-06-2004 10:00 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vvmss1j42imvdd@corp.supernews.com:

>
> "Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9468CDBF8463Aeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>> > You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
>> > dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.

>>
>> Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.

>
> Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


That's what happens when you type while talking to someone about something
else.

Barry Bean 01-06-2004 10:00 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:vvmss1j42imvdd@corp.supernews.com:

>
> "Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9468CDBF8463Aeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
>> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>> > You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is
>> > dependent on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.

>>
>> Thanks. That was the sort of question I was looking for.

>
> Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


That's what happens when you type while talking to someone about something
else.

mabar 01-06-2004 10:04 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Hi Barry:

Your selec-trac full time 4x4 setting can be used at literally any speed.
You can actually leave it in the full-time setting all year if you want.

Tom

snip
> None of the SUVs, trucks, or cars I've driven have been in a ditch for
> the past 20+ years, and I didn't ask about "driving at high speed on
> snow." I asked about using Jeep's full time 4X4 at highway speeds in
> borderline conditions. Maybe "patchy snow", "light snow", and "drizzle
> near freezing" mean different things where you live, but in this part of
> the country, traffic doesn't typically slow down until you actually get
> road coverage, or conditions that have more wet/snow covered pavement
> than dry pavement.




mabar 01-06-2004 10:04 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Hi Barry:

Your selec-trac full time 4x4 setting can be used at literally any speed.
You can actually leave it in the full-time setting all year if you want.

Tom

snip
> None of the SUVs, trucks, or cars I've driven have been in a ditch for
> the past 20+ years, and I didn't ask about "driving at high speed on
> snow." I asked about using Jeep's full time 4X4 at highway speeds in
> borderline conditions. Maybe "patchy snow", "light snow", and "drizzle
> near freezing" mean different things where you live, but in this part of
> the country, traffic doesn't typically slow down until you actually get
> road coverage, or conditions that have more wet/snow covered pavement
> than dry pavement.




mabar 01-06-2004 10:04 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Hi Barry:

Your selec-trac full time 4x4 setting can be used at literally any speed.
You can actually leave it in the full-time setting all year if you want.

Tom

snip
> None of the SUVs, trucks, or cars I've driven have been in a ditch for
> the past 20+ years, and I didn't ask about "driving at high speed on
> snow." I asked about using Jeep's full time 4X4 at highway speeds in
> borderline conditions. Maybe "patchy snow", "light snow", and "drizzle
> near freezing" mean different things where you live, but in this part of
> the country, traffic doesn't typically slow down until you actually get
> road coverage, or conditions that have more wet/snow covered pavement
> than dry pavement.




mabar 01-06-2004 10:09 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Actually, if it's a Selec-Trac, you can drive in the full-time 4WD drive
setting at ANY speed.

Tom

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com...
> You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is dependent
> on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9467AD0BDF5ABeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
> > Whats the top safe speed to drive using full time 4X4?

>




mabar 01-06-2004 10:09 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Actually, if it's a Selec-Trac, you can drive in the full-time 4WD drive
setting at ANY speed.

Tom

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com...
> You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is dependent
> on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9467AD0BDF5ABeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
> > Whats the top safe speed to drive using full time 4X4?

>




mabar 01-06-2004 10:09 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Actually, if it's a Selec-Trac, you can drive in the full-time 4WD drive
setting at ANY speed.

Tom

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vvmjc9l1ilq163@corp.supernews.com...
> You can drive the Full time 4WD at any safe speed. The safety is dependent
> on outside conditions, not vehicle limitations.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9467AD0BDF5ABeatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
> > Whats the top safe speed to drive using full time 4X4?

>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 10:40 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Not all of us are Technical Writers, some of us write the way we
talk.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 10:40 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Not all of us are Technical Writers, some of us write the way we
talk.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-06-2004 10:40 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Not all of us are Technical Writers, some of us write the way we
talk.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Technically, it's the sort of ANSWER you were looking for :-).


Barry Bean 01-06-2004 10:41 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in news:EqidnQR1iKm_6maiRVn-
tw@gbronline.com:

> Your selec-trac full time 4x4 setting can be used at literally any speed.
> You can actually leave it in the full-time setting all year if you want.


Thanks. So how does Jeep full time 4x4 differ from my Ford Explorer's all
wheel drive?

BB

Barry Bean 01-06-2004 10:41 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in news:EqidnQR1iKm_6maiRVn-
tw@gbronline.com:

> Your selec-trac full time 4x4 setting can be used at literally any speed.
> You can actually leave it in the full-time setting all year if you want.


Thanks. So how does Jeep full time 4x4 differ from my Ford Explorer's all
wheel drive?

BB

Barry Bean 01-06-2004 10:41 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
"mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in news:EqidnQR1iKm_6maiRVn-
tw@gbronline.com:

> Your selec-trac full time 4x4 setting can be used at literally any speed.
> You can actually leave it in the full-time setting all year if you want.


Thanks. So how does Jeep full time 4x4 differ from my Ford Explorer's all
wheel drive?

BB

Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 11:17 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
On 06 Jan 2004 05:31 PM, L.W.(?ill) ------ III posted the following:
> You need to buy a motor manual from the sixties, like for your
> CJ-5.
> God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>> That image is meaningless without any supporting information, or even
>> the rest of the page with info on what vehicle it is for. About all
>> that can be said for it is at least it is in english.


I've got a manual for my CJ-5. My point is, there is no way to tell
from the picture you posted what vehicle manual that is from, whether it
is a Jeep, Chevy Nova, Pinto, or whatever. Further, there is no
explanation to go along with the picture so it is impossible to tell
whether it supports your point or not.

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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 11:17 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
On 06 Jan 2004 05:31 PM, L.W.(?ill) ------ III posted the following:
> You need to buy a motor manual from the sixties, like for your
> CJ-5.
> God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>> That image is meaningless without any supporting information, or even
>> the rest of the page with info on what vehicle it is for. About all
>> that can be said for it is at least it is in english.


I've got a manual for my CJ-5. My point is, there is no way to tell
from the picture you posted what vehicle manual that is from, whether it
is a Jeep, Chevy Nova, Pinto, or whatever. Further, there is no
explanation to go along with the picture so it is impossible to tell
whether it supports your point or not.

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Del Rawlins 01-06-2004 11:17 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
On 06 Jan 2004 05:31 PM, L.W.(?ill) ------ III posted the following:
> You need to buy a motor manual from the sixties, like for your
> CJ-5.
> God Bless America, ?ill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>> That image is meaningless without any supporting information, or even
>> the rest of the page with info on what vehicle it is for. About all
>> that can be said for it is at least it is in english.


I've got a manual for my CJ-5. My point is, there is no way to tell
from the picture you posted what vehicle manual that is from, whether it
is a Jeep, Chevy Nova, Pinto, or whatever. Further, there is no
explanation to go along with the picture so it is impossible to tell
whether it supports your point or not.

----------------------------------------------------
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Will Honea 01-06-2004 11:27 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
When I put my 230 pounds on the brake pedal with due determination,
they damned sure WILL lockup - but long after the front wheels are
begging for mercy. All a matter of degree, but that is a
proportioning valve, not a modulating valve and at some point even a
portion of the force is sufficient to lock them. You just have to be
REALLY determined to do it.

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 02:59:38 UTC "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com>
wrote:

> Yes they do. Although not electronic ABS, the proportioning valve acts as a
> primitive rear antilock brake system. Plain and simple, the rear wheels will
> NOT lock up, no matter how hard you mash the brake pedal.
>
> Tom
>
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040106122303346-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 06 Jan 2004 11:40 AM, Mike Romain posted the following:
> >
> > > Jeeps especially
> > > have rear anti lock brakes, have since the 70's.

> >
> > Not.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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>
>



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Will Honea 01-06-2004 11:27 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
When I put my 230 pounds on the brake pedal with due determination,
they damned sure WILL lockup - but long after the front wheels are
begging for mercy. All a matter of degree, but that is a
proportioning valve, not a modulating valve and at some point even a
portion of the force is sufficient to lock them. You just have to be
REALLY determined to do it.

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 02:59:38 UTC "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com>
wrote:

> Yes they do. Although not electronic ABS, the proportioning valve acts as a
> primitive rear antilock brake system. Plain and simple, the rear wheels will
> NOT lock up, no matter how hard you mash the brake pedal.
>
> Tom
>
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040106122303346-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 06 Jan 2004 11:40 AM, Mike Romain posted the following:
> >
> > > Jeeps especially
> > > have rear anti lock brakes, have since the 70's.

> >
> > Not.
> >
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> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

>
>



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Will Honea 01-06-2004 11:27 PM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
When I put my 230 pounds on the brake pedal with due determination,
they damned sure WILL lockup - but long after the front wheels are
begging for mercy. All a matter of degree, but that is a
proportioning valve, not a modulating valve and at some point even a
portion of the force is sufficient to lock them. You just have to be
REALLY determined to do it.

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 02:59:38 UTC "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com>
wrote:

> Yes they do. Although not electronic ABS, the proportioning valve acts as a
> primitive rear antilock brake system. Plain and simple, the rear wheels will
> NOT lock up, no matter how hard you mash the brake pedal.
>
> Tom
>
> "Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
> news:20040106122303346-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> > On 06 Jan 2004 11:40 AM, Mike Romain posted the following:
> >
> > > Jeeps especially
> > > have rear anti lock brakes, have since the 70's.

> >
> > Not.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> > Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> > Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> > http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

>
>



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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-07-2004 03:09 AM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Just for you Del, I rescanned the page with it's page number in it's
entirety, with the index which tells you it falls under General Service
Information Section: http://www.----------.com/sureTrack.jpg I looked
under Ford, GM, International, and American Motors indexes to see if
they referenced the page, but no. I guess it's something old mechanics
just know, like I worked on a Scout Travelall and Jeep Wagoneer trailer
packages with the Sure-Track, so you just have to take my word for it. A
searched the internet, only found them back to '69 Ford products up
only. The Jeep was about 1964, I would guess.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I've got a manual for my CJ-5. My point is, there is no way to tell
> from the picture you posted what vehicle manual that is from, whether it
> is a Jeep, Chevy Nova, Pinto, or whatever. Further, there is no
> explanation to go along with the picture so it is impossible to tell
> whether it supports your point or not.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-07-2004 03:09 AM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Just for you Del, I rescanned the page with it's page number in it's
entirety, with the index which tells you it falls under General Service
Information Section: http://www.----------.com/sureTrack.jpg I looked
under Ford, GM, International, and American Motors indexes to see if
they referenced the page, but no. I guess it's something old mechanics
just know, like I worked on a Scout Travelall and Jeep Wagoneer trailer
packages with the Sure-Track, so you just have to take my word for it. A
searched the internet, only found them back to '69 Ford products up
only. The Jeep was about 1964, I would guess.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I've got a manual for my CJ-5. My point is, there is no way to tell
> from the picture you posted what vehicle manual that is from, whether it
> is a Jeep, Chevy Nova, Pinto, or whatever. Further, there is no
> explanation to go along with the picture so it is impossible to tell
> whether it supports your point or not.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-07-2004 03:09 AM

Re: highway speed in full time 4X4?
 
Just for you Del, I rescanned the page with it's page number in it's
entirety, with the index which tells you it falls under General Service
Information Section: http://www.----------.com/sureTrack.jpg I looked
under Ford, GM, International, and American Motors indexes to see if
they referenced the page, but no. I guess it's something old mechanics
just know, like I worked on a Scout Travelall and Jeep Wagoneer trailer
packages with the Sure-Track, so you just have to take my word for it. A
searched the internet, only found them back to '69 Ford products up
only. The Jeep was about 1964, I would guess.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I've got a manual for my CJ-5. My point is, there is no way to tell
> from the picture you posted what vehicle manual that is from, whether it
> is a Jeep, Chevy Nova, Pinto, or whatever. Further, there is no
> explanation to go along with the picture so it is impossible to tell
> whether it supports your point or not.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/



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