Hey Ya'll!
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
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"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kate-
> The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> accomodate the lift.
>
> Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so that
> you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> without removing it from the vehicle.
>
> Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats, and
> get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
>
> Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the rear
> and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> couldn't.
>
> Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
>> you'll do OK.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
>> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
>> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>> >
>> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> top
>> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
>> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
>> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
>> but
>> > I will get used to it.
>> >
>> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
>> > for
>> > comfort, style and versitility.
>> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> doing
>> > some exploring.
>> >
>> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
>> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
>> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>> >
>> > Oh!
>> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> Irish
>> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
>> republican.
>> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
>> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>> >
>> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kate
>> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Kate-
> The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> accomodate the lift.
>
> Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so that
> you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> without removing it from the vehicle.
>
> Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats, and
> get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
>
> Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the rear
> and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> couldn't.
>
> Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
>> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
>> you'll do OK.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
>> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
>> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
>> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years though.
>> >
>> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> top
>> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
>> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
>> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a bit
>> but
>> > I will get used to it.
>> >
>> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
>> > for
>> > comfort, style and versitility.
>> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> doing
>> > some exploring.
>> >
>> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with their
>> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
>> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
>> >
>> > Oh!
>> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> Irish
>> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
>> republican.
>> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport and
>> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
>> >
>> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kate
>> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
#122
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get stuck on
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#123
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get stuck on
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#124
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get stuck on
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#125
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Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
I had one on my Cherokee. What I didn't think about? You don't get stuck on
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
flat land, oh no. You get stuck in nasty, nappy, middle-of-your-doors-deep
mud. You get stuck off-camber. You get on big, slippery rocks. You get stuck
on a steep hill. Now you've got to carry the winch and winch plate (read:
100+LBS) from the back of your truck, thru this terrain, clear the mud from
your reciever, slide it in. Put the pin in, hook the cables up, and NOW
winch out. Also, it is not always possible to access the reciever to plug
the winch in. I considered running trails with the winch on, but it hit
EVERYTHING. Winch bumper? Just pull the cable and do it.
Carl
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:817fd$4324e272$d8449845$5807@FUSE.NET...
> Don't consider a reciever winch. Why not?
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E86dnTo7P_4ARLneRVn-rQ@comcast.com...
> > Kate-
> > The lift is to accomodate the larger tires, the new shocks are to
> > accomodate the lift.
> >
> > Sway bar discos (short for disconnects) replace the sway bar link so
that
> > you can effectively disconnect the sway bar from the suspension system
> > without removing it from the vehicle.
> >
> > Your stock tires are OK but will get cut up easily, easily get flats,
and
> > get stuck in mud easily. The MT/R may be overkill, but it is a very good
> > tire. I have a set on my 89 Cherokee that my mother now drives. They are
> > tough, grab well, ride well and are quiet.
> >
> > Depending on what you want to do, all of the above mentioned is probably
> > overkill. My Cherokee had a 2" spacer lift with an add-a-leaf in the
rear
> > and on 30" MT/Rs with sway bar discos, I could tackle a lot of stuff I
> > couldn't.
> >
> > Lastly, consider a winch. Do not consider a reciever winch.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
> >> 2" Spacer lift, new shocks, sway bar discos and a set of Goodyear
MT/R's,
> >> you'll do OK.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
> >> > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
> >> > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
though.
> >> >
> >> > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra drop
> > top
> >> > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
> >> > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
> >> > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
bit
> >> but
> >> > I will get used to it.
> >> >
> >> > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
> >> > for
> >> > comfort, style and versitility.
> >> > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
> > doing
> >> > some exploring.
> >> >
> >> > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
> >> > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
> >> > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
> >> >
> >> > Oh!
> >> > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
> > Irish
> >> > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
> >> republican.
> >> > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
and
> >> > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
> >> >
> >> > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Kate
> >> > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#126
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Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
: Kate,
:
: Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which are a
: ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road with
: those.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
wouldn't understand ?
My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the super
tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit loose.
:
: The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds like
you
: would have little need for them.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in it BUT
for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't go out
too far I guess LOL
:
: If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a set of
All
: Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company although
the
: swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the very
: least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
:
: Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular here but
: not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee, see
chart
: above)
The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the time
: Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new (longer)
: shocks or shock extensions.
Gotcha
:
: The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the sway
bar
: for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning that
: either.
I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than the
other way around.
: A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get stuck
: someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body. (The
KJ's
: not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows the
: addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or in
the
: future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in the
: front.
As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo yes,
money will be an object.
One thing at a time.
:
: Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
limitations
: and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it had
little
: traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
: traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still. You
can
: 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving it gas.
: The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
: thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering the KJ
: now you could add the posi-traction option that does this automatically.
It
: is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing. The
: driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your line
: when given the chance.
:
: While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to replace
: the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like your old
: CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean the
: interior.
Those were the days aye!
Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have. Good
idear ya got there.
:
: I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with the
3.7
: liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know where
: to look and call for good information
I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much out
there yet.
Thanks for the input!
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
:
:
: --
: .
: Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: .
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
: > : 2" Spacer lift,
: >
: > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
: >
: > new shocks,
: > but, but, but these ARE new.
: > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
: >
: > sway bar discos
: > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
: >
: > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
: > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
: >
: > : you'll do OK.
: > Thanks!
: > :¬D
: >
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: > :
: > : Carl
: > :
: > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > : but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > : republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#127
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
: Kate,
:
: Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which are a
: ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road with
: those.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
wouldn't understand ?
My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the super
tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit loose.
:
: The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds like
you
: would have little need for them.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in it BUT
for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't go out
too far I guess LOL
:
: If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a set of
All
: Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company although
the
: swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the very
: least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
:
: Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular here but
: not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee, see
chart
: above)
The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the time
: Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new (longer)
: shocks or shock extensions.
Gotcha
:
: The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the sway
bar
: for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning that
: either.
I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than the
other way around.
: A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get stuck
: someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body. (The
KJ's
: not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows the
: addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or in
the
: future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in the
: front.
As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo yes,
money will be an object.
One thing at a time.
:
: Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
limitations
: and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it had
little
: traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
: traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still. You
can
: 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving it gas.
: The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
: thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering the KJ
: now you could add the posi-traction option that does this automatically.
It
: is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing. The
: driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your line
: when given the chance.
:
: While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to replace
: the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like your old
: CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean the
: interior.
Those were the days aye!
Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have. Good
idear ya got there.
:
: I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with the
3.7
: liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know where
: to look and call for good information
I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much out
there yet.
Thanks for the input!
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
:
:
: --
: .
: Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: .
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
: > : 2" Spacer lift,
: >
: > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
: >
: > new shocks,
: > but, but, but these ARE new.
: > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
: >
: > sway bar discos
: > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
: >
: > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
: > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
: >
: > : you'll do OK.
: > Thanks!
: > :¬D
: >
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: > :
: > : Carl
: > :
: > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > : but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > : republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#128
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
: Kate,
:
: Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which are a
: ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road with
: those.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
wouldn't understand ?
My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the super
tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit loose.
:
: The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds like
you
: would have little need for them.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in it BUT
for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't go out
too far I guess LOL
:
: If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a set of
All
: Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company although
the
: swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the very
: least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
:
: Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular here but
: not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee, see
chart
: above)
The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the time
: Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new (longer)
: shocks or shock extensions.
Gotcha
:
: The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the sway
bar
: for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning that
: either.
I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than the
other way around.
: A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get stuck
: someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body. (The
KJ's
: not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows the
: addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or in
the
: future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in the
: front.
As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo yes,
money will be an object.
One thing at a time.
:
: Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
limitations
: and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it had
little
: traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
: traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still. You
can
: 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving it gas.
: The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
: thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering the KJ
: now you could add the posi-traction option that does this automatically.
It
: is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing. The
: driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your line
: when given the chance.
:
: While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to replace
: the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like your old
: CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean the
: interior.
Those were the days aye!
Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have. Good
idear ya got there.
:
: I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with the
3.7
: liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know where
: to look and call for good information
I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much out
there yet.
Thanks for the input!
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
:
:
: --
: .
: Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: .
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
: > : 2" Spacer lift,
: >
: > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
: >
: > new shocks,
: > but, but, but these ARE new.
: > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
: >
: > sway bar discos
: > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
: >
: > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
: > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
: >
: > : you'll do OK.
: > Thanks!
: > :¬D
: >
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: > :
: > : Carl
: > :
: > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > : but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > : republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#129
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Posts: n/a
Re: Hey Ya'll!
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:b859a$4324ae21$d8449845$26172@FUSE.NET...
: Kate,
:
: Which Goodyear tires did you get? I am guessing Wrangler HPs which are a
: ..... fair ... street tire but you won't be getting too far off-road with
: those.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...y.jsp?type=HAS
You guessed right. They seem to wander, or is it a Jeep thing, that I
wouldn't understand ?
My 1st CJ wandered like a drunken indian and I may be too used to the super
tight suspension on my Cobra but this little thing seems a wee bit loose.
:
: The MT/Rs that Carl mentioned are off-road mud tires and it sounds like
you
: would have little need for them.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORMT
Actually, I have this thing about mud. I have always liked to play in it BUT
for now, I ahve what I have.... well, that and a AAA card if I don't go out
too far I guess LOL
:
: If possible you might see if you can get the dealer to swap you a set of
All
: Terrain tires. They all have a deal with a local tire company although
the
: swapping is easier done before the sales papers are signed. At the very
: least the ATs will give you better winter performance.
: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey....jsp?type=ORAT
Somehow, I doubt it BUTm you never know, I suppose I could ask.
:
: Everyone has their own favorite tire manufacturer, BFG is popular here but
: not universal (I have Kumho Venture AT-825s on my Grand Cherokee, see
chart
: above)
The last set I had on my Cobra were Kuhmos.
I was not all that happy with them. Seemed to need rebalancing all the time
: Depending on how high you lift your Liberty you might need new (longer)
: shocks or shock extensions.
Gotcha
:
: The 'discos' are sway bar disconnects. You need to disconnect the sway
bar
: for full articulation off-road but you don't sound to be planning that
: either.
I might, you just never know. Better to have it and not need it than the
other way around.
: A towing point front and rear is important off-road so if you get stuck
: someone can pull you out without endangering your axles or body. (The
KJ's
: not yours) A trailer receiver counts as a rear tow point and allows the
: addition of additional carriers, etc. that may be of interest now or in
the
: future. If money is a consideration you only 'need' one tow hook in the
: front.
As far as I know, I did not win the lottery on Saturday night SOoooooo yes,
money will be an object.
One thing at a time.
:
: Take a look at Bill's video. The KJ got stuck because of design
limitations
: and driver inexperience. The passenger rear tire spun because it had
little
: traction and the standard differential will allow the tire with less
: traction to spin freely and the tire with traction to remain still. You
can
: 'remedy' the open differential by applying the brakes while giving it gas.
: The resistance from the brake will often trick the differential into
: thinking both tires have equal traction. If you were just ordering the KJ
: now you could add the posi-traction option that does this automatically.
It
: is not as good as a true 'locker' but is much better than nothing. The
: driver should also have been further to the left, ALWAYS select your line
: when given the chance.
:
: While you are at it get a set of substantial rubber floor mats to replace
: the carpeted ones that came from the factory. Your KJ isn't like your old
: CJ where you could just go to the carwash with the top off to clean the
: interior.
Those were the days aye!
Rubber mats. Yup, for mess making that would be the thing to have. Good
idear ya got there.
:
: I am not sure how many people in this newsgroup have experience with the
3.7
: liter V-6 engine as it is fairly new but I am sure some of them know where
: to look and call for good information
I have spent a little time googling the Liberty, have not found much out
there yet.
Thanks for the input!
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
:
:
: --
: .
: Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
: 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
: Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
: Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
: .
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:cW0Ve.10427$_84.5306@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
: > news:-NadnRrRZM3U0rneRVn-qQ@comcast.com...
: > : 2" Spacer lift,
: >
: > Ok, then I will need steps, cause I am not that tall, but that's ok!
: >
: > new shocks,
: > but, but, but these ARE new.
: > Why do you say that AND what setup do you think is good and why?
: >
: > sway bar discos
: > HUH ?? I know what a sway bar is, but I thought disco was dead!
: >
: > and a set of Goodyear MT/R's,
: > I have GoodYear tires on it now, why the MTRs ?
: >
: > : you'll do OK.
: > Thanks!
: > :¬D
: >
: >
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: > :
: > : Carl
: > :
: > : "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: > : news:CZUUe.10252$_84.9969@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > : but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > : republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
#130
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Re: Hey Ya'll!
I love curmudgeons, pinkos.. well.. I just dunno ...
thanks for the welcome!
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:6_ydnWfUYPmqSLneRVn-hg@comcast.com...
: Bill's our resident curmudgeon. He'll tell you I am our resident
: commie-pinko bleeding heart Al-Qaida loving propane-running liberal
weenie.
:
: "Who is he calling a pinko?"
:
: Welcome aboard....
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:DE0Ve.10416$_84.6960@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Sorry... for... what?
: > did you break wind? ;¬D
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
: > news:43248074.EE28745E@***.net...
: > : Sorry.
: > : God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
: > :
: > : Kate wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
:
:
thanks for the welcome!
--
Kate
2O|||||||O5 Liberty
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:6_ydnWfUYPmqSLneRVn-hg@comcast.com...
: Bill's our resident curmudgeon. He'll tell you I am our resident
: commie-pinko bleeding heart Al-Qaida loving propane-running liberal
weenie.
:
: "Who is he calling a pinko?"
:
: Welcome aboard....
:
: "Kate" <svtkate@excited.com> wrote in message
: news:DE0Ve.10416$_84.6960@newsread1.news.atl.earth link.net...
: > Sorry... for... what?
: > did you break wind? ;¬D
: > --
: > Kate
: > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
: > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
: > news:43248074.EE28745E@***.net...
: > : Sorry.
: > : God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
: > : mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
: > :
: > : Kate wrote:
: > : >
: > : > Thought I would jump in and introduce myself.
: > : > I'm located in west Tennessee, only been here a couple of years
: > though.
: > : >
: > : > After about ten years of driving Mustangs traded off my 98 Cobra
drop
: > top
: > : > for a 2005 Liberty Limited 4x4 .
: > : > I traded in my California car for something more regionally correct.
: > : > The swap down about 100 horses will be something of a stutter for a
: > bit
: > but
: > : > I will get used to it.
: > : >
: > : > In earlier days I have owned two CJs and this time chose the Liberty
: > for
: > : > comfort, style and versitility.
: > : > I am looking forward to trying out that last color option - Mud and
: > doing
: > : > some exploring.
: > : >
: > : > I'm really interested in what modifications folks are doing with
their
: > : > Libertys, particularly in power, but I do plan to take it out and go
: > : > exploring this beautiful part of the country.
: > : >
: > : > Oh!
: > : > I should add - I am a chubby, 40 something, outspoken, opinionated,
: > Irish
: > : > woman who is the mother of three, grandma to one and a usually a
: > republican.
: > : > I have been around cars and trucks all of my life for fun and sport
: > and
: > : > worked in the automotive industry for many years.
: > : >
: > : > Looks like there is a lot to learn in here!
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > Kate
: > : > 2O|||||||O5 Liberty
: >
: >
:
: