Re: Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:33:43 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
>mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
>2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
>need to gear down.

Again such a idiot, 3.31 gears belong in a car not a 4x4 with big
tires and statements like his tells you how really clueless he is. (if
his gear were as deep as his ego is big he might actuallly have a real
4x4 rather than a tonka toy he drives) If your 4x4 requires a
downshift out of even 5th on highway it is geared too tall. None of my
4x4's require a downshift out of OD on any normal interstate grade
unless you are in some serious mountains and engine power in down
because air is thinner and even then the never below drive unless
maybe it is the pass to Eisenhower tunnel on I-70 in Colorado at
11,997 feet. Even my wifes 4 cyl 5 speed stock Cherokee that we bought
new never needs a down shift on a hill anywhere around here even with
A/C on. Why? Because it has 225/78 tires and 4.10 gears it came with
matches its avaible power well to load. I would never even remotely
consider bigger tires on it with regearing it. (not that I am going to
ever put big tires on it any way) BTW, it turns about 2450 at 60 MPH
in 5th and will cruise 70 all day if you want to without busting a gut
and now has over 80K on it and run great and uses no oil between
changes. RPM do not hurt a engine but lugging it under load sure can.
Also only a fool would promote of suggest using less gears on a tranny
and loosing availble power in all gear because they are too cheap to
do it right. Mike is such a bit fan of have a 5 speed with 4 "usabel"
gears that he spends a lot of time convincing other that his poor
logic is sound so they can join him.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:33:43 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
>mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
>2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
>need to gear down.

Again such a idiot, 3.31 gears belong in a car not a 4x4 with big
tires and statements like his tells you how really clueless he is. (if
his gear were as deep as his ego is big he might actuallly have a real
4x4 rather than a tonka toy he drives) If your 4x4 requires a
downshift out of even 5th on highway it is geared too tall. None of my
4x4's require a downshift out of OD on any normal interstate grade
unless you are in some serious mountains and engine power in down
because air is thinner and even then the never below drive unless
maybe it is the pass to Eisenhower tunnel on I-70 in Colorado at
11,997 feet. Even my wifes 4 cyl 5 speed stock Cherokee that we bought
new never needs a down shift on a hill anywhere around here even with
A/C on. Why? Because it has 225/78 tires and 4.10 gears it came with
matches its avaible power well to load. I would never even remotely
consider bigger tires on it with regearing it. (not that I am going to
ever put big tires on it any way) BTW, it turns about 2450 at 60 MPH
in 5th and will cruise 70 all day if you want to without busting a gut
and now has over 80K on it and run great and uses no oil between
changes. RPM do not hurt a engine but lugging it under load sure can.
Also only a fool would promote of suggest using less gears on a tranny
and loosing availble power in all gear because they are too cheap to
do it right. Mike is such a bit fan of have a 5 speed with 4 "usabel"
gears that he spends a lot of time convincing other that his poor
logic is sound so they can join him.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:33:43 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
>mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
>2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
>need to gear down.

Again such a idiot, 3.31 gears belong in a car not a 4x4 with big
tires and statements like his tells you how really clueless he is. (if
his gear were as deep as his ego is big he might actuallly have a real
4x4 rather than a tonka toy he drives) If your 4x4 requires a
downshift out of even 5th on highway it is geared too tall. None of my
4x4's require a downshift out of OD on any normal interstate grade
unless you are in some serious mountains and engine power in down
because air is thinner and even then the never below drive unless
maybe it is the pass to Eisenhower tunnel on I-70 in Colorado at
11,997 feet. Even my wifes 4 cyl 5 speed stock Cherokee that we bought
new never needs a down shift on a hill anywhere around here even with
A/C on. Why? Because it has 225/78 tires and 4.10 gears it came with
matches its avaible power well to load. I would never even remotely
consider bigger tires on it with regearing it. (not that I am going to
ever put big tires on it any way) BTW, it turns about 2450 at 60 MPH
in 5th and will cruise 70 all day if you want to without busting a gut
and now has over 80K on it and run great and uses no oil between
changes. RPM do not hurt a engine but lugging it under load sure can.
Also only a fool would promote of suggest using less gears on a tranny
and loosing availble power in all gear because they are too cheap to
do it right. Mike is such a bit fan of have a 5 speed with 4 "usabel"
gears that he spends a lot of time convincing other that his poor
logic is sound so they can join him.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:33:43 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
>> mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
>> 2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
>> need to gear down.
>
> Again such a idiot, 3.31 gears belong in a car not a 4x4 with big
> tires and statements like his tells you how really clueless he is. (if
> his gear were as deep as his ego is big he might actuallly have a real
> 4x4 rather than a tonka toy he drives)

Must just make you sick with jealousy eh?

Here is what we do with our 'tonka toys' that are geared 'so' bad, LOL!

Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:
Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845
Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347
Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351
June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705
Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603
Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779
Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511
Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093
Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104
Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
Day Trip Misc.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217
CJ build http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292105877

Mike

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:33:43 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
>> mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
>> 2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
>> need to gear down.
>
> Again such a idiot, 3.31 gears belong in a car not a 4x4 with big
> tires and statements like his tells you how really clueless he is. (if
> his gear were as deep as his ego is big he might actuallly have a real
> 4x4 rather than a tonka toy he drives)

Must just make you sick with jealousy eh?

Here is what we do with our 'tonka toys' that are geared 'so' bad, LOL!

Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:
Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845
Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347
Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351
June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705
Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603
Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779
Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511
Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093
Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104
Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
Day Trip Misc.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217
CJ build http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292105877

Mike

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:33:43 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
>> mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
>> 2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
>> need to gear down.
>
> Again such a idiot, 3.31 gears belong in a car not a 4x4 with big
> tires and statements like his tells you how really clueless he is. (if
> his gear were as deep as his ego is big he might actuallly have a real
> 4x4 rather than a tonka toy he drives)

Must just make you sick with jealousy eh?

Here is what we do with our 'tonka toys' that are geared 'so' bad, LOL!

Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:
Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845
Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347
Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351
June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705
Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603
Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779
Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511
Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093
Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104
Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
Day Trip Misc.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217
CJ build http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292105877

Mike

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

SnoMan wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:33:43 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
>> mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
>> 2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
>> need to gear down.
>
> Again such a idiot, 3.31 gears belong in a car not a 4x4 with big
> tires and statements like his tells you how really clueless he is. (if
> his gear were as deep as his ego is big he might actuallly have a real
> 4x4 rather than a tonka toy he drives)

Must just make you sick with jealousy eh?

Here is what we do with our 'tonka toys' that are geared 'so' bad, LOL!

Canadian Off Road Trips Photos:
Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845
Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292141347
Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291929351
June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291718705
Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291402603
Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4290887779
Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4289239511
Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=3697290093
Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2132336104
Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2120343242
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
Day Trip Misc.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4291902217
CJ build http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292105877

Mike

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

Ok, googled around some more and I see were I got confused. The "carrier
case" refers the carrier holding all the spider geers and not "carrier case
= pumpkin". So now I'm back to , just need carrier (and spiders) and / or
a locker of some type that eliminates the carrier. But I dont' want posi in
the rear end so...

Years ago I worked for a landscape company that pushed snow in the winter.
They had almost all dodge trucks and they actually removed the rear
driveshaft in all the trucks and ran them in 4 hi / low making them front
wheel drive instead of four wheel drive. The reason had to do with tearing
diffs up because of a lot of driving on pavement with both axles locked and
in all honesty I never had a problem pushing snow in with them. Anyway...
is there any reason I couldn't put a detroit and 4.11 in the front axle and
drive it without the rear driveshaft until I can find a wrecked Ruby or
something and put Dana 44's under it ?

Will it hurt a TJ to drive it without the rear driveshaft ?

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

Ok, googled around some more and I see were I got confused. The "carrier
case" refers the carrier holding all the spider geers and not "carrier case
= pumpkin". So now I'm back to , just need carrier (and spiders) and / or
a locker of some type that eliminates the carrier. But I dont' want posi in
the rear end so...

Years ago I worked for a landscape company that pushed snow in the winter.
They had almost all dodge trucks and they actually removed the rear
driveshaft in all the trucks and ran them in 4 hi / low making them front
wheel drive instead of four wheel drive. The reason had to do with tearing
diffs up because of a lot of driving on pavement with both axles locked and
in all honesty I never had a problem pushing snow in with them. Anyway...
is there any reason I couldn't put a detroit and 4.11 in the front axle and
drive it without the rear driveshaft until I can find a wrecked Ruby or
something and put Dana 44's under it ?

Will it hurt a TJ to drive it without the rear driveshaft ?

Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
 

Ok, googled around some more and I see were I got confused. The "carrier
case" refers the carrier holding all the spider geers and not "carrier case
= pumpkin". So now I'm back to , just need carrier (and spiders) and / or
a locker of some type that eliminates the carrier. But I dont' want posi in
the rear end so...

Years ago I worked for a landscape company that pushed snow in the winter.
They had almost all dodge trucks and they actually removed the rear
driveshaft in all the trucks and ran them in 4 hi / low making them front
wheel drive instead of four wheel drive. The reason had to do with tearing
diffs up because of a lot of driving on pavement with both axles locked and
in all honesty I never had a problem pushing snow in with them. Anyway...
is there any reason I couldn't put a detroit and 4.11 in the front axle and
drive it without the rear driveshaft until I can find a wrecked Ruby or
something and put Dana 44's under it ?

Will it hurt a TJ to drive it without the rear driveshaft ?