Re: Where to move to
 

I will remind you of what you wrote "Geez, that sounds like part of
what makes it a nice place." Was your reply to what Tom wrote about
Japanese Geisha Girls feeling American genitals. Comprende?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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JohnM wrote:
>
> I'll have to ask you what Tijuana has to do with Japan..
>
> John

Re: Where to move to
 

I will remind you of what you wrote "Geez, that sounds like part of
what makes it a nice place." Was your reply to what Tom wrote about
Japanese Geisha Girls feeling American genitals. Comprende?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JohnM wrote:
>
> I'll have to ask you what Tijuana has to do with Japan..
>
> John

Re: Where to move to
 

I will remind you of what you wrote "Geez, that sounds like part of
what makes it a nice place." Was your reply to what Tom wrote about
Japanese Geisha Girls feeling American genitals. Comprende?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

JohnM wrote:
>
> I'll have to ask you what Tijuana has to do with Japan..
>
> John

Re: Detroit Vs Japan
 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:

> im saying that typical non-union employees can do it better simply
> because we stand upon our own merit. we have no other protection beyond
> our skills and work ethic.

I'm not against someone working non-union, but from my experience, non-union
workers typically do not do it better in the construction trades. Many
companies hire guys in and give them limited training. I've seen some
pretty shifty work from non-union guys. I've seen some non-union guys do
good work, but they tend to be the exception. I don't fault the workers
themselves, necessarily, because relying on a company that's only out for
its own profitability to provide training, sending them to trade schools,
is not necessarily the best way. They tend to get the bare minimum and the
companies often don't provide the necessary tools to get the job done
properly. Usually, non-union guys are responsible to provide their own
tools, and many times that means a minimal set of tools. Our companies
provide us all our tools and we get all that we need to properly do the
job.

I salute you for your efforts in your career, but my experience is
different.


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Registered Linux user #378193

Re: Detroit Vs Japan
 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:

> im saying that typical non-union employees can do it better simply
> because we stand upon our own merit. we have no other protection beyond
> our skills and work ethic.

I'm not against someone working non-union, but from my experience, non-union
workers typically do not do it better in the construction trades. Many
companies hire guys in and give them limited training. I've seen some
pretty shifty work from non-union guys. I've seen some non-union guys do
good work, but they tend to be the exception. I don't fault the workers
themselves, necessarily, because relying on a company that's only out for
its own profitability to provide training, sending them to trade schools,
is not necessarily the best way. They tend to get the bare minimum and the
companies often don't provide the necessary tools to get the job done
properly. Usually, non-union guys are responsible to provide their own
tools, and many times that means a minimal set of tools. Our companies
provide us all our tools and we get all that we need to properly do the
job.

I salute you for your efforts in your career, but my experience is
different.


--

Registered Linux user #378193

Re: Detroit Vs Japan
 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:

> im saying that typical non-union employees can do it better simply
> because we stand upon our own merit. we have no other protection beyond
> our skills and work ethic.

I'm not against someone working non-union, but from my experience, non-union
workers typically do not do it better in the construction trades. Many
companies hire guys in and give them limited training. I've seen some
pretty shifty work from non-union guys. I've seen some non-union guys do
good work, but they tend to be the exception. I don't fault the workers
themselves, necessarily, because relying on a company that's only out for
its own profitability to provide training, sending them to trade schools,
is not necessarily the best way. They tend to get the bare minimum and the
companies often don't provide the necessary tools to get the job done
properly. Usually, non-union guys are responsible to provide their own
tools, and many times that means a minimal set of tools. Our companies
provide us all our tools and we get all that we need to properly do the
job.

I salute you for your efforts in your career, but my experience is
different.


--

Registered Linux user #378193

Re: Detroit Vs Japan
 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:

> im saying that typical non-union employees can do it better simply
> because we stand upon our own merit. we have no other protection beyond
> our skills and work ethic.

I'm not against someone working non-union, but from my experience, non-union
workers typically do not do it better in the construction trades. Many
companies hire guys in and give them limited training. I've seen some
pretty shifty work from non-union guys. I've seen some non-union guys do
good work, but they tend to be the exception. I don't fault the workers
themselves, necessarily, because relying on a company that's only out for
its own profitability to provide training, sending them to trade schools,
is not necessarily the best way. They tend to get the bare minimum and the
companies often don't provide the necessary tools to get the job done
properly. Usually, non-union guys are responsible to provide their own
tools, and many times that means a minimal set of tools. Our companies
provide us all our tools and we get all that we need to properly do the
job.

I salute you for your efforts in your career, but my experience is
different.


--

Registered Linux user #378193

Re: Detroit Vs Japan
 

The union construction guys are very good sometimes and sometimes they
aren't. Thye problem with the unions is they get bad leadership
sometimes and once that happens getting them out is impossible.

The UAW did the auto industry no favors in the 60s and 70's which is
why everyone bought Toyotas. I don't have a problem with them making
the money they do, but I want first class workmanship for that much
money.

Re: Detroit Vs Japan
 

The union construction guys are very good sometimes and sometimes they
aren't. Thye problem with the unions is they get bad leadership
sometimes and once that happens getting them out is impossible.

The UAW did the auto industry no favors in the 60s and 70's which is
why everyone bought Toyotas. I don't have a problem with them making
the money they do, but I want first class workmanship for that much
money.

Re: Detroit Vs Japan
 

The union construction guys are very good sometimes and sometimes they
aren't. Thye problem with the unions is they get bad leadership
sometimes and once that happens getting them out is impossible.

The UAW did the auto industry no favors in the 60s and 70's which is
why everyone bought Toyotas. I don't have a problem with them making
the money they do, but I want first class workmanship for that much
money.