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mic canic 05-09-2005 09:17 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
the engine and the pcm needs to relearn how to idle

Nathan Otis wrote:

> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead battery.
> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and got a
> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it won't
> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because this is
> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a new
> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this battery come
> back to life?
>
> n.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2005 09:24 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Hi Nathan,
Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it seemed
> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started it).
>
> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
> n.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Nathan Otis wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead battery.
> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and got a
> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
> >> won't
> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because this
> >> is
> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
> >> new
> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this battery
> >> come
> >> back to life?
> >>
> >> n.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2005 09:24 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Hi Nathan,
Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it seemed
> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started it).
>
> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
> n.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Nathan Otis wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead battery.
> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and got a
> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
> >> won't
> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because this
> >> is
> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
> >> new
> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this battery
> >> come
> >> back to life?
> >>
> >> n.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2005 09:24 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Hi Nathan,
Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it seemed
> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started it).
>
> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
> n.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Nathan Otis wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead battery.
> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and got a
> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
> >> won't
> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because this
> >> is
> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
> >> new
> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this battery
> >> come
> >> back to life?
> >>
> >> n.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2005 09:24 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Hi Nathan,
Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it seemed
> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started it).
>
> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
> n.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Nathan Otis wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead battery.
> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and got a
> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
> >> won't
> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because this
> >> is
> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
> >> new
> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this battery
> >> come
> >> back to life?
> >>
> >> n.


Nathan Otis 05-09-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Will do.
n.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42800D5E.FBF746A2@cox.net...
> Hi Nathan,
> Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
> continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
> full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
> up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
> air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
> Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it
>> seemed
>> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
>> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
>> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
>> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started
>> it).
>>
>> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
>> n.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
>> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
>> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
>> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead
>> >> battery.
>> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and
>> >> got a
>> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
>> >> won't
>> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because
>> >> this
>> >> is
>> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
>> >> new
>> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this
>> >> battery
>> >> come
>> >> back to life?
>> >>
>> >> n.

>




Nathan Otis 05-09-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Will do.
n.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42800D5E.FBF746A2@cox.net...
> Hi Nathan,
> Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
> continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
> full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
> up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
> air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
> Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it
>> seemed
>> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
>> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
>> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
>> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started
>> it).
>>
>> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
>> n.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
>> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
>> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
>> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead
>> >> battery.
>> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and
>> >> got a
>> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
>> >> won't
>> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because
>> >> this
>> >> is
>> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
>> >> new
>> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this
>> >> battery
>> >> come
>> >> back to life?
>> >>
>> >> n.

>




Nathan Otis 05-09-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Will do.
n.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42800D5E.FBF746A2@cox.net...
> Hi Nathan,
> Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
> continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
> full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
> up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
> air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
> Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it
>> seemed
>> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
>> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
>> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
>> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started
>> it).
>>
>> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
>> n.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
>> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
>> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
>> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead
>> >> battery.
>> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and
>> >> got a
>> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
>> >> won't
>> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because
>> >> this
>> >> is
>> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
>> >> new
>> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this
>> >> battery
>> >> come
>> >> back to life?
>> >>
>> >> n.

>




Nathan Otis 05-09-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
Will do.
n.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42800D5E.FBF746A2@cox.net...
> Hi Nathan,
> Could be related as the engine now has to use five horsepower to
> continually charge the battery as it's probably not capable of holding a
> full charge any more. Anyway, the step Motor is responsible for speeding
> up your engine to compensate for that and such things as running your
> air conditioner compressor. So clean it and the Throttle Position
> Sensor: http://members.cox.net/wilsond/tb/tb.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>>
>> Well... It started right up this morning. I drove it to work and it
>> seemed
>> ok, except it died when I parked it. Started right up after work and was
>> fine on the way home but it died at a couple stop lights and again when I
>> parked. Each time I have no problems starting it... After it sits for a
>> while it will run, too (like this morning and after work when I started
>> it).
>>
>> What's going on? Is this just the battery or is there another problem?
>> n.
>>
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:427EF793.92DF85E9@cox.net...
>> > I would drive around a little longer, and let the computer
>> > reprogram it's self, it's running it the safe mode after having it's
>> > brains sucked out, your radio's presets should be gone too.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > Nathan Otis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead
>> >> battery.
>> >> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and
>> >> got a
>> >> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
>> >> won't
>> >> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because
>> >> this
>> >> is
>> >> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
>> >> new
>> >> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this
>> >> battery
>> >> come
>> >> back to life?
>> >>
>> >> n.

>




Nathan Otis 05-09-2005 10:14 PM

Re: Dead battery (don't laugh)
 
If that's the case, would it be worth it to pull the pos. cable and let it
reset?

PER:
http://www.rubiconownersforum.com/ph...ast+learn+mode

n.


"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:42800BC4.4963F581@cac.net...
> the engine and the pcm needs to relearn how to idle
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
>> Well, I left the lights on this evening and I come out to a dead battery.
>> Turn the key and all I get is "click". I poulled out the cables and got a
>> jump to get it started (drove around for about 10-15 minutes) but it
>> won't
>> stay running without goosing the gas. I ask you not to laugh because this
>> is
>> my first dead battery and I don't know if these symptoms mean I need a
>> new
>> one or if I get it started and drive a little longer, will this battery
>> come
>> back to life?
>>
>> n.

>
>





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