Good tire, great value. They are long lasting and I have yet to encounter a
shifted belt even after sitting flat and frozen for a few months.
-Brian

"Monte Castleman" <qmdcastleman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:84v0c.27330$hm4.12270@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
: My stepfather finally decided to junk the Jimmy that his daughter rear
: ended someone with a year ago, and offered me the tires (with about
: 3-4/5th the tread left), so my only cost would be to have them
: remounted.
:
: I currently drive Firestone Wilderness ATs. I don't plan to go nuts
: off-roading, but I do drive through a lot of midwestern weather. Are
: these Coopers any good, or are they worth what I'd pay for them. Would
: being on a non-operation vehicle for a year have hurt them (the truck
: wasn't moved, but they weren't deflated)?
: --
:
: Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
: Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>
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One was like this Wrangler I bought to wear with the tires that
came new with my '78 Bronco: http://www.----------.com/goodyear.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I can only think of a couple times that we had defective Goodyears *that
> we sold* come back in the time that I was working there, one of which I
> suspected was run low. There were definitely problems with the tires
> that Goodyear sold to the OEMs, like the Wrangler RT/S and other light
> duty lines that were probably fine on paved roads but didn't hold up at
> all on the Cordova roads. Those lower quality Goodyears definitely made
> it harder for us to sell the good stuff to the average customer who had
> to be educated on the difference. We sold mostly the higher end,
> heavier load range light truck tires and usually whatever their middle
> line was for passenger cars. It was definitely more difficult to
> compete with the lower cost brands that way, but the people who did buy
> a set from us were generally satisfied. We normally didn't see them in
> the shop again until it was time to sell them a new set a few years
> later. As opposed to the more regular customers with uniroyal/firestone/
> whatever who were in more frequently for yet another patch, but those
> guys usually figured it out eventually, too.
>
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One was like this Wrangler I bought to wear with the tires that
came new with my '78 Bronco: http://www.----------.com/goodyear.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I can only think of a couple times that we had defective Goodyears *that
> we sold* come back in the time that I was working there, one of which I
> suspected was run low. There were definitely problems with the tires
> that Goodyear sold to the OEMs, like the Wrangler RT/S and other light
> duty lines that were probably fine on paved roads but didn't hold up at
> all on the Cordova roads. Those lower quality Goodyears definitely made
> it harder for us to sell the good stuff to the average customer who had
> to be educated on the difference. We sold mostly the higher end,
> heavier load range light truck tires and usually whatever their middle
> line was for passenger cars. It was definitely more difficult to
> compete with the lower cost brands that way, but the people who did buy
> a set from us were generally satisfied. We normally didn't see them in
> the shop again until it was time to sell them a new set a few years
> later. As opposed to the more regular customers with uniroyal/firestone/
> whatever who were in more frequently for yet another patch, but those
> guys usually figured it out eventually, too.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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One was like this Wrangler I bought to wear with the tires that
came new with my '78 Bronco: http://www.----------.com/goodyear.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> I can only think of a couple times that we had defective Goodyears *that
> we sold* come back in the time that I was working there, one of which I
> suspected was run low. There were definitely problems with the tires
> that Goodyear sold to the OEMs, like the Wrangler RT/S and other light
> duty lines that were probably fine on paved roads but didn't hold up at
> all on the Cordova roads. Those lower quality Goodyears definitely made
> it harder for us to sell the good stuff to the average customer who had
> to be educated on the difference. We sold mostly the higher end,
> heavier load range light truck tires and usually whatever their middle
> line was for passenger cars. It was definitely more difficult to
> compete with the lower cost brands that way, but the people who did buy
> a set from us were generally satisfied. We normally didn't see them in
> the shop again until it was time to sell them a new set a few years
> later. As opposed to the more regular customers with uniroyal/firestone/
> whatever who were in more frequently for yet another patch, but those
> guys usually figured it out eventually, too.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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In <4042C648.EC174684@***.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> One was like this Wrangler I bought to wear with the tires that
> came new with my '78 Bronco: http://www.----------.com/goodyear.jpg

Those were a bit before my time. I've seen a few worn out ones but
that's about it. We sold a lot of Wrangler AT, AT/S, and Workhorse
extra grip after Goodyear started pricing the AT lines out of most
peoples' budgets.

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In <4042C648.EC174684@***.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> One was like this Wrangler I bought to wear with the tires that
> came new with my '78 Bronco: http://www.----------.com/goodyear.jpg

Those were a bit before my time. I've seen a few worn out ones but
that's about it. We sold a lot of Wrangler AT, AT/S, and Workhorse
extra grip after Goodyear started pricing the AT lines out of most
peoples' budgets.

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In <4042C648.EC174684@***.net> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> One was like this Wrangler I bought to wear with the tires that
> came new with my '78 Bronco: http://www.----------.com/goodyear.jpg

Those were a bit before my time. I've seen a few worn out ones but
that's about it. We sold a lot of Wrangler AT, AT/S, and Workhorse
extra grip after Goodyear started pricing the AT lines out of most
peoples' budgets.

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I've never liked Firestone tires. I don't recall the details but back in the
70's there was the Firestone 500, a tire that was popping like water balloons.
As I recall it killed a number of people as well, and was subject to a nation
wide recall. So if Firestone was ever a good company its been more than 25+
years ago.

I'm surprised the Firestone 500 didn't come up in any of the lawsuits. Couldn't
some lawyer use it to show a pattern of manufacturing defective, poorly designed
tires?

The only experience I have with Cooper tires is a set of car tires I had that
were labeled with the Big O brand. Those were an absolute hazard to my life.
More flats than I can remember and a freeway blowout. I've since talked to an
independent tire dealer (when he was replacing the Firestones on my Expedition
at Ford's expense) about Cooper tires and he said they were a good brand. (He
did not sell Cooper or Big O brands) YMMV

Dean


> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
>Explorer passengers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>> Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
>> years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
>> damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
>> light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
>> treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
>> produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
>> have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

 

I've never liked Firestone tires. I don't recall the details but back in the
70's there was the Firestone 500, a tire that was popping like water balloons.
As I recall it killed a number of people as well, and was subject to a nation
wide recall. So if Firestone was ever a good company its been more than 25+
years ago.

I'm surprised the Firestone 500 didn't come up in any of the lawsuits. Couldn't
some lawyer use it to show a pattern of manufacturing defective, poorly designed
tires?

The only experience I have with Cooper tires is a set of car tires I had that
were labeled with the Big O brand. Those were an absolute hazard to my life.
More flats than I can remember and a freeway blowout. I've since talked to an
independent tire dealer (when he was replacing the Firestones on my Expedition
at Ford's expense) about Cooper tires and he said they were a good brand. (He
did not sell Cooper or Big O brands) YMMV

Dean


> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
>Explorer passengers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>> Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
>> years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
>> damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
>> light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
>> treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
>> produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
>> have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

 

I've never liked Firestone tires. I don't recall the details but back in the
70's there was the Firestone 500, a tire that was popping like water balloons.
As I recall it killed a number of people as well, and was subject to a nation
wide recall. So if Firestone was ever a good company its been more than 25+
years ago.

I'm surprised the Firestone 500 didn't come up in any of the lawsuits. Couldn't
some lawyer use it to show a pattern of manufacturing defective, poorly designed
tires?

The only experience I have with Cooper tires is a set of car tires I had that
were labeled with the Big O brand. Those were an absolute hazard to my life.
More flats than I can remember and a freeway blowout. I've since talked to an
independent tire dealer (when he was replacing the Firestones on my Expedition
at Ford's expense) about Cooper tires and he said they were a good brand. (He
did not sell Cooper or Big O brands) YMMV

Dean


> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
>Explorer passengers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>> Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
>> years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
>> damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
>> light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
>> treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
>> produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
>> have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/